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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #75 on: December 26, 2010, 01:36:15 PM »
you really are a waste of space and so used to steroids that you have no perspective.

i met up with a buddy of mine last week, who i havent seen for 20 years.

he's now been training, completely naturally, for 36 years.

He is 52.

He is built like a tank. big traps, big delts, forearms, pecs...and he's 52!!!

he benches just under 400 and squats that for reps.

probably the best physique ive seen in real life for a 50+ year old.

NEVER touched a single hormone. Won State titles when he was a teen and in his early twenties..against druggies.

he has 2 brothers who are the same...they are in their mid 40s and looking great- running fitness businesses and still training.

Ive said it over and over again- you train consistent enough and for long enough and you come up looking thick and better than any flash in the pan gear head who wants to get a quick fix and immediate satisfaction of growing.

even if your gains are 2 lbs per year, thats 40lbs over 20years. youll grow more than that for the first few years and while young of course.

gh15 you are so brain washed its sad.

How do his balls smell?

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #76 on: December 26, 2010, 01:41:42 PM »
you really are a waste of space and so used to steroids that you have no perspective.

i met up with a buddy of mine last week, who i havent seen for 20 years.

he's now been training, completely naturally, for 36 years.

He is 52.

He is built like a tank. big traps, big delts, forearms, pecs...and he's 52!!!

he benches just under 400 and squats that for reps.

probably the best physique ive seen in real life for a 50+ year old.

NEVER touched a single hormone. Won State titles when he was a teen and in his early twenties..against druggies.

he has 2 brothers who are the same...they are in their mid 40s and looking great- running fitness businesses and still training.

Ive said it over and over again- you train consistent enough and for long enough and you come up looking thick and better than any flash in the pan gear head who wants to get a quick fix and immediate satisfaction of growing.

even if your gains are 2 lbs per year, thats 40lbs over 20years. youll grow more than that for the first few years and while young of course.

gh15 you are so brain washed its sad.

You have not seen him for 20 years but you know he's drug free   ???

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #77 on: December 26, 2010, 01:49:01 PM »
You have not seen him for 20 years but you know he's drug free   ???

he could tell from his musky taste.

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #78 on: December 26, 2010, 01:51:17 PM »
you really are a waste of space and so used to steroids that you have no perspective.

i met up with a buddy of mine last week, who i havent seen for 20 years.

he's now been training, completely naturally, for 36 years.

He is 52.

He is built like a tank. big traps, big delts, forearms, pecs...and he's 52!!!

he benches just under 400 and squats that for reps.

probably the best physique ive seen in real life for a 50+ year old.

NEVER touched a single hormone. Won State titles when he was a teen and in his early twenties..against druggies.

he has 2 brothers who are the same...they are in their mid 40s and looking great- running fitness businesses and still training.

Ive said it over and over again- you train consistent enough and for long enough and you come up looking thick and better than any flash in the pan gear head who wants to get a quick fix and immediate satisfaction of growing.

even if your gains are 2 lbs per year, thats 40lbs over 20years. youll grow more than that for the first few years and while young of course.

gh15 you are so brain washed its sad.

first of,,anythign i say is nto up for  if or whats,,it is facts there is no debating it ,,now you can discuss it and give your opinion true but ill go here and explain to you something about the world you live in ,,


a 50 year old ,,hell a 35 year old ,,but 50 year old big big time,,is out of any hormone in his body to produce any ANY change to the physiqe not 5 lb a year not 3 lb a year and not 1 lb a year of olean mucle,,they are on constant usage of hgh,,and ofcourse aas on regular basis if training in any activity involving weights ,,this is important to understand

remember i make my living 24 7 bodybuilding that all i do 24 7 get money from people who want to be bodybuilder and  people who are bodybuilder and want to advance,,this is how i made 2 castles in europe ,, you dont get it from talkin balonie my friend,,

now and this is important now,,THE LIARS are many ,,that 50 year old LIE TO YOUR FACE,,SAME AS THE GOOD OLE GYM OWWNER THAT SIT AND EAT EVERY 2 HOURS IS DIVORCED 2 TIMES AND KEEP ON SAYING HE USED SUSPSENTION AT 300MG A WEEK BACK IN 1971 GAINED 30LB AND DIDNT TOUCH HORMONES AGAIN ,,SAME AS CROACH FROM THIS BOARD WHO SIT HERE AND HAVE DEEP DEEP PSYCOLOGICAL ISSUES AND TALK ABOUT HOW CLEAN HE IS EVENTHOUGH SPOTTING 205 LB AT 5'6 WITH VISIBLE ABDOMINAL AND HIGH SINGLES TO LOW DOUBLES BF ,,THEY JUST LIE ALL OF THEM LIE TO YOUR FACE,,THEY DO IT FOR MANY REASONS DUE TO INSECURITIES,,DUE TO JOBS,,DUE TO SOCIETY IMPACT AND THINKING ABOUT STEROID USER IN AMERICNAA ,,DUE TO POLICE HARDON FOR HORMONES IN AMERICANA ,,MANY OTHER REASONS,,WITH THE MAIN REASON BEING THEIR SUB AVERAGE RESPOND TO  G E A R ,,this is the main problem they just average joe and responded very average to hormones no matter how much or what they took ,,

BUT REST ASSURE MY FRIEND,,THAT BEHIND CLOSE DOORSA IN THEIR LITTLE HOUSE WHEN NO ONE NOTICE ,,THEY SIT,,WELL STAND OR LAY WITH A NEEDLE UP THEIR ASS AND IMMIDITALY UPON WAKING UP A NEEDLE UP THEIR SHOULDER OF AAS AND HGH RESPECTIVLY,,PERIOD!

no one feed me nothing,,im god of this cult,,been god for many years,,and ruling it with iron fist,,its important you understand it

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #79 on: December 26, 2010, 01:56:21 PM »
You have not seen him for 20 years but you know he's drug free   ???

dont pay attention ,,those type of comments here are from isolated individuals who have no clue to whats really going on in bodybuilding and in the cult of performance enhancing drugs in general,,they dont know that an average ,,AVERAGE SOLID SUPPLIER MAKES OVER 20 K EACH AND EVERY MONTH CLEAN CUT TO THE POCKET! among richest men in the world friends and i aint kidding

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #80 on: December 26, 2010, 02:00:50 PM »
I'm curious disco, wots dis 52 year old fellas stats? Height, weight, % bodyfat?

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #81 on: December 26, 2010, 03:36:57 PM »
gh15, the "185lb @ 8-10% for 5'10 natural limit" you give there imo should be more specific because of what you have stated in your bible in the past.
I have a post saved of your natural limits bible that says there is no debate, no arguing that 175lbs @ 8% for 5'10 natural bodybuilder is the absolute limit.

This recent posting would be adding 10lbs more to the natural limits of the 5'10 frame of human compared to your posts/bible a few months ago.

Maybe "185lb @ nothing less than 10% for 5'10" would you say, or is the natural limit bible now updated if it is 185lb @ 8% for 5'10?

thanks,
I hit 175 natural in this first pic at 5'9" at about 23 years old. The second pic was taken a year later on about 300 mg a week of gear when I competed at 194.. so I gained some muscle.  That was the last time I juiced and I weigh a fairly hard 195 now at 48 years old without any HRT or hormones. I wonder sometimes what I would have looked like on a gram of gear mixed in with some GH. I bet I could have gotten fairly big. The bottom line is you can look pretty good on modest amounts of hormones and you can stay healthy if you're smart about it.   Of course you won't look like a modern day pro...but I am surprised at how many guys are tons of stuff and when they post their pics, they don't look very impressive. Is that bad genetics or bunk juice?

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #82 on: December 26, 2010, 03:41:06 PM »
So many people are so negative about training.

This is either down to poor genetics or poor trianing and diet.

This is not a lifestyle. train enjoy it and have fun. Once training stops becoming fun or rewarding its time to stop and choose a different hobby.

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #83 on: December 26, 2010, 03:44:00 PM »
.but I am surprised at how many guys are tons of stuff and when they post their pics, they don't look very impressive. Is that bad genetics or bunk juice?

Damn dude, stop singling out Tbombz..He's been on 1.5 grams for three years non stop and looks worse than most natural lifters... :o

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #84 on: December 26, 2010, 03:47:53 PM »
I hit 175 natural in this first pic at 5'9" at about 23 years old. The second pic was taken a year later on about 300 mg a week of gear when I competed at 194.. so I gained some muscle.  That was the last time I juiced and I weigh a fairly hard 195 now at 48 years old without any HRT or hormones. I wonder sometimes what I would have looked like on a gram of gear mixed in with some GH. I bet I could have gotten fairly big. The bottom line is you can look pretty good on modest amounts of hormones and you can stay healthy if you're smart about it.   Of course you won't look like a modern day pro...but I am surprised at how many guys are tons of stuff and when they post their pics, they don't look very impressive. Is that bad genetics or bunk juice?
Now that shows what you can do when you have a decent natural base and you then do a bit of juice and you just blow up. I think the juice was better back in your day as well. In the 80's, I grew off of 200 mg of test and 300 mg of deca a week. I was a hard 215 at 5'10" with good abs. By the way, your legs really improved in one year and you look so much thicker. Dude, you ought to go some test now that you're 48. If you look good now, imagine what 200 mg of test and a few IU's of growth would do for you. You only live once Bro.  ;)

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #85 on: December 26, 2010, 04:03:40 PM »
I hit 175 natural in this first pic at 5'9" at about 23 years old. The second pic was taken a year later on about 300 mg a week of gear when I competed at 194.. so I gained some muscle.  That was the last time I juiced and I weigh a fairly hard 195 now at 48 years old without any HRT or hormones. I wonder sometimes what I would have looked like on a gram of gear mixed in with some GH. I bet I could have gotten fairly big. The bottom line is you can look pretty good on modest amounts of hormones and you can stay healthy if you're smart about it.   Of course you won't look like a modern day pro...but I am surprised at how many guys are tons of stuff and when they post their pics, they don't look very impressive. Is that bad genetics or bunk juice?

exactly - you don't have to be the next Kai Greene

nothing wrong with going for the classic look

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #86 on: December 26, 2010, 04:25:14 PM »
I hit 175 natural in this first pic at 5'9" at about 23 years old. The second pic was taken a year later on about 300 mg a week of gear when I competed at 194.. so I gained some muscle.  That was the last time I juiced and I weigh a fairly hard 195 now at 48 years old without any HRT or hormones. I wonder sometimes what I would have looked like on a gram of gear mixed in with some GH. I bet I could have gotten fairly big. The bottom line is you can look pretty good on modest amounts of hormones and you can stay healthy if you're smart about it.   Of course you won't look like a modern day pro...but I am surprised at how many guys are tons of stuff and when they post their pics, they don't look very impressive. Is that bad genetics or bunk juice?

Looking great in both pics, but be prepared for gh15 to call you a liar, in caps locks no less :o

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #87 on: December 26, 2010, 04:28:13 PM »
Great physique Chemist.

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #88 on: December 26, 2010, 04:46:24 PM »
Great physique Chemist.
Thanks.....Glory days. lol

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« Reply #89 on: December 26, 2010, 04:56:04 PM »
Thanks.....Glory days. lol
Great physique Chemist .

Is Mike Dusa still alive?

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« Reply #90 on: December 26, 2010, 05:02:33 PM »
Great physique Chemist .

Is Mike Dusa still alive?
I don't know. Haven't heard from him in a while. I hope he managed to heal that MRSA on his arm. That looked pretty serious.

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #91 on: December 26, 2010, 05:08:23 PM »
Looking great in both pics, but be prepared for gh15 to call you a liar, in caps locks no less :o
Of course he will..but to be honest I was bigger as a Nattie than Chemist was in his 175 pound pic...so it seems believable to me. That 170 pound natural limit Gh15 goes on about is a bunch of crap.

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« Reply #92 on: December 26, 2010, 05:11:47 PM »
Of course he will..but to be honest I was bigger as a Nattie than Chemist was in his 175 pound pic...so it seems believable to me. That 170 pound natural limit Gh15 goes on about is a bunch of crap.
Pics or it didn't happen. :D

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #93 on: December 26, 2010, 05:12:53 PM »
Pics or it didn't happen. :D
naturals are extremely delusional about how muscular they appear to other people..

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« Reply #94 on: December 26, 2010, 05:19:12 PM »
naturals are extremely delusional about how muscular they appear to other people..
Yeah..well feel free to post a pic where you look half as good as him..juiced or nattie...Someone who takes as much shit as you have over the years and still looks like you is the definition of delusional.

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #95 on: December 26, 2010, 05:20:34 PM »
naturals are extremely delusional about how muscular they appear to other people..
So are you

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #96 on: December 26, 2010, 05:23:41 PM »
Pics or it didn't happen. :D

First, you looked great.

Second: Big muscular naturals are like fucking Nessie or Aliens, everybody knows someone who knows someone that was MUCH bigger than YOU on roids, and sometimes you even meet someone who got abducted, but he never has taken photos despite being the best natural bodybuilder of his times.


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« Reply #97 on: December 26, 2010, 05:24:43 PM »
 ;D LOL im only honest with myself about my size here on getbig, in real life i feel average at best.  if either of you can post a picture of yourself where you have more muscle than i do, go ahead. ill delete my account.

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« Reply #98 on: December 26, 2010, 05:26:06 PM »
;D LOL im only honest with myself about my size here on getbig, in real life i feel average at best.  if either of you can post a picture of yourself where you have more muscle than i do, go ahead. ill delete my account.
You go first ,  full body clear picture .

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« Reply #99 on: December 26, 2010, 05:33:31 PM »
First, you looked great.

Second: Big muscular naturals are like fucking Nessie or Aliens, everybody knows someone who knows someone that was MUCH bigger than YOU on roids, and sometimes you even meet someone who got abducted, but he never has taken photos despite being the best natural bodybuilder of his times.



What counts as a 'big muscular natural'