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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #100 on: December 26, 2010, 05:39:57 PM »
;D LOL im only honest with myself about my size here on getbig, in real life i feel average at best.  if either of you can post a picture of yourself where you have more muscle than i do, go ahead. ill delete my account.
I would love to post my pic on here and humiliate you..and the only reason I don't is because I'm a high profile guy and I don't want my identity known...but if by "either of you"..you're including Chemist..please post a shot where you beat this..include your Legs (and your pathetic calves)..and hit the lat spread. If you beat this, then you have all my props.. And Chemist..sorry if I'm embarassing you..but this guy is the Ultimate Delusionite.

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #101 on: December 26, 2010, 05:41:54 PM »
I would love to post my pic on here and humiliate you..and the only reason I don't is because I'm a high profile guy and I don't want my identity known...but if by "either of you"..you're including Chemist..please post a shot where you beat this..include your Legs (and your pathetic calves)..and hit the lat spread. If you beat this, then you have all my props.. And Chemist..sorry if I'm embarassing you..but this guy is the Ultimate Delusionite.
i meant you or che  :)

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #102 on: December 26, 2010, 05:43:35 PM »
What counts as a 'big muscular natural'

What did we say in this thread?

5'10", 185lbs, -8% bf?

Won't happen. You can have naturals over 12% that look big in clothes but shitty without, or ripped and small, but big and ripped just won't happen.

Now if i remember this correctly,  you're big, but rather on the fat side. If you would be in contest shape, you'd be a lot smaller or you are lying and you take steroids.  ;)


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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #103 on: December 26, 2010, 05:43:48 PM »
I hit 175 natural in this first pic at 5'9" at about 23 years old. The second pic was taken a year later on about 300 mg a week of gear when I competed at 194.. so I gained some muscle.  That was the last time I juiced and I weigh a fairly hard 195 now at 48 years old without any HRT or hormones. I wonder sometimes what I would have looked like on a gram of gear mixed in with some GH. I bet I could have gotten fairly big. The bottom line is you can look pretty good on modest amounts of hormones and you can stay healthy if you're smart about it.   Of course you won't look like a modern day pro...but I am surprised at how many guys are tons of stuff and when they post their pics, they don't look very impressive. Is that bad genetics or bunk juice?



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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #104 on: December 26, 2010, 05:44:51 PM »
What did we say in this thread?

5'10", 185lbs, -8% bf?

Won't happen. You can have naturals over 12% that look big in clothes but shitty without, or ripped and small, but big and ripped just won't happen.

Now if i remember this correctly,  you're big, but rather on the fat side. If you would be in contest shape, you'd be a lot smaller or you are lying and you take steroids.  ;)



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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #105 on: December 26, 2010, 05:50:07 PM »
i meant you or che  :)


Haha delete your account



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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #106 on: December 26, 2010, 06:08:57 PM »
Lats: Winner che,
Chest: Winner Che,
Bi: Winner Che
Tri:  -5 points for site injections (tbomz) Winner Che
Cranium, Dome piece, etc. winner: Tdizzle
Jaw size: Winner Tbombz
Forearms: Winner Che

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #107 on: December 26, 2010, 06:18:03 PM »
Lats, Winner che,
Chest, Winner Che,
Bi, Winner Che
Tri's  -5 points for site injections (tbomz) Winner Che
Cranium, Dome piece, etc. winner: Tdizzle
Jaw: Tbombz


LOL

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #108 on: December 26, 2010, 06:23:26 PM »
LOL

Sick triceps on Che

Only thing i'm wonder if it's esciline or synthol...If i was tdizzle i would be worried injecting to an area with such few muscle fibers.

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #109 on: December 26, 2010, 06:25:01 PM »
I hit 175 natural in this first pic at 5'9" at about 23 years old. The second pic was taken a year later on about 300 mg a week of gear when I competed at 194.. so I gained some muscle.  That was the last time I juiced and I weigh a fairly hard 195 now at 48 years old without any HRT or hormones. I wonder sometimes what I would have looked like on a gram of gear mixed in with some GH. I bet I could have gotten fairly big. The bottom line is you can look pretty good on modest amounts of hormones and you can stay healthy if you're smart about it.   Of course you won't look like a modern day pro...but I am surprised at how many guys are tons of stuff and when they post their pics, they don't look very impressive. Is that bad genetics or bunk juice?

thats more than 300mg of gear,,its gym rat doses 400-500mg testosterona ,,eq or nandrolone 50mg a day which make it 400mg a week or about,, and good oral,, this is not only 300mg of inject test,,BALONIE,,

now,,its semi easy to try to mislead my pupils ,,some of them ,,most of them knwo whats up,,but to lie and to mention gh15 in the lie,,,not good,, now indeed this is NO HGH ,,it is one dimentional physiqe that is lean but lackin volume so true you were not on hgh ,,but rest asure you are a roid head over there like there is no tomottow,,begginer roided first pic ....advanced roided second pic,,

fellas ,,stop ,,think,,do,, no need to come on getbig and  say stories from 1935 ,,this is THE BOARD FOR HORMONE KNOWLEDGE HANDS ON ,,you cant lie to them anymore,,they been gh15nd

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #110 on: December 26, 2010, 08:59:08 PM »
IF you been around long enough in this sport you would know that 200mg of American phara Test = about 400mg of todays shit and 100mg of Deca is now like 300mg now. The drugs in the 80's where pure and legit, not like the stuff the dealers sell now adays. gh you know that is how you guys make big bucks now a days, weaker product= more dosage=more$$$. Another example Anavar use to come in 2.5mg per pill and if you took a couple a day you would get harder and stronger. Guys at my gym tell me they have 25 and 50mg Anavar pills and have to use a couple a day, weak or fake shit.

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #111 on: December 26, 2010, 09:31:55 PM »
IF you been around long enough in this sport you would know that 200mg of American phara Test = about 400mg of todays shit and 100mg of Deca is now like 300mg now. The drugs in the 80's where pure and legit, not like the stuff the dealers sell now adays. gh you know that is how you guys make big bucks now a days, weaker product= more dosage=more$$$. Another example Anavar use to come in 2.5mg per pill and if you took a couple a day you would get harder and stronger. Guys at my gym tell me they have 25 and 50mg Anavar pills and have to use a couple a day, weak or fake shit.

no,,personal cook dose product higher than human grade,,depend who your personal cook is ,,ofcoure human grade done more sterile ,,but potency when personal cook actually put legit powder in at higer dose,,same exact thing if not better,,it all depend on personal cook is,,
but this fella in picture did nto do it on no hrt dose,,it is more,,its not much more but it is base gym rat cycle at young young age with still ok natural gh levels,,so he look good but no 300mg nothing,,its total of about 750-1000mg in blood total hormone,,good but! not good enough

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #112 on: December 27, 2010, 12:15:17 AM »
First off, most of you guys are fucking clueless on what is true sub-6, secondly there is a HUGE difference btw a true 8% compared to a true 6%. On getbig fellas say they are ripped (sub-6) when in fact they are sitting at bout 10% BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #113 on: December 27, 2010, 03:31:01 AM »

Haha delete your account



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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #114 on: December 27, 2010, 06:54:40 AM »
you really are a waste of space and so used to steroids that you have no perspective.

i met up with a buddy of mine last week, who i havent seen for 20 years.

he's now been training, completely naturally, for 36 years.

He is 52.

He is built like a tank. big traps, big delts, forearms, pecs...and he's 52!!!

he benches just under 400 and squats that for reps.

probably the best physique ive seen in real life for a 50+ year old.

NEVER touched a single hormone. Won State titles when he was a teen and in his early twenties..against druggies.

he has 2 brothers who are the same...they are in their mid 40s and looking great- running fitness businesses and still training.

Ive said it over and over again- you train consistent enough and for long enough and you come up looking thick and better than any flash in the pan gear head who wants to get a quick fix and immediate satisfaction of growing.

even if your gains are 2 lbs per year, thats 40lbs over 20years. youll grow more than that for the first few years and while young of course.

gh15 you are so brain washed its sad.



ha ha.... dont think i can even be botherd to start with this statement!

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #115 on: December 27, 2010, 07:45:18 AM »
IF you been around long enough in this sport you would know that 200mg of American phara Test = about 400mg of todays shit and 100mg of Deca is now like 300mg now. The drugs in the 80's where pure and legit, not like the stuff the dealers sell now adays. gh you know that is how you guys make big bucks now a days, weaker product= more dosage=more$$$. Another example Anavar use to come in 2.5mg per pill and if you took a couple a day you would get harder and stronger. Guys at my gym tell me they have 25 and 50mg Anavar pills and have to use a couple a day, weak or fake shit.

Exactly.

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #116 on: December 27, 2010, 08:16:04 AM »



ha ha.... dont think i can even be botherd to start with this statement!
Haha Disco_stu's posts remind me of a bitter old man whos wife cheated on him with a juicer. Hahahaha.
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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #117 on: December 27, 2010, 08:18:30 AM »
IF you been around long enough in this sport you would know that 200mg of American phara Test = about 400mg of todays shit and 100mg of Deca is now like 300mg now. The drugs in the 80's where pure and legit, not like the stuff the dealers sell now adays. gh you know that is how you guys make big bucks now a days, weaker product= more dosage=more$$$. Another example Anavar use to come in 2.5mg per pill and if you took a couple a day you would get harder and stronger. Guys at my gym tell me they have 25 and 50mg Anavar pills and have to use a couple a day, weak or fake shit.

does this apply to supps like celltech as well?  is a dose of celltech less potent now then the days of yesteryear?

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #118 on: December 27, 2010, 08:28:03 AM »
Maybe so tom, creatine monohydrate from sportpharma was da shit back in da day! lol

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #119 on: December 27, 2010, 08:57:57 AM »
Assuming your training and dieting is fairly reasonable, it all boils down to your genetics. And the responses will run the whole gamut, from the few on either extreme (very poor and very good) to the majority, who'd get an average response.

Everyone responds well in the beginning because of the novelty factor, but very few people are patient enough to keep going naturally, year after year, since the increase in strength and size will decrease significantly. But IMO, people underestimate what is possible to achieve naturally - you won't look anything like a pro, but you can still improve and get in great shape over time, if you train properly and do all the needed stuff (nutrition, rest etc).

Very well states, just remember to stay focused to get past the plateaus.  Its easy to keep working out when you body changes rapidly in the beginning.  As times moves on it is truly the dedicated that stay with it and persevere.

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #120 on: December 27, 2010, 09:25:00 AM »
does this apply to supps like celltech as well?  is a dose of celltech less potent now then the days of yesteryear?

Back in the day the celltech nitrotech stack would yield 4000-5000% gains but today's users have to settle for 3000% improvements

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #121 on: December 27, 2010, 09:51:26 AM »
Back in the day the celltech nitrotech stack would yield 4000-5000% gains but today's users have to settle for 3000% improvements


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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #122 on: December 27, 2010, 09:54:17 AM »
i think we should as a collective have tdongz delete his account now.
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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #123 on: December 27, 2010, 11:10:15 AM »
GH15 is so much more right than wrong.
Look up Dr. Greg Ellis, the nutrition guru.  I met this man and conversed with him on a few occasions.  He stated unequivocally that a natural trainee would be lucky to gain a total of 15 lbs. of pure muscle over the lifetime of training!!!
How discouraged I was when I had to come to grips with the fact that I was adding a lot of water, fat, and a little bit of muscle with all of my training.

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Re: Regarding training naturally
« Reply #124 on: December 27, 2010, 11:34:52 AM »
When I was 18, I weighed all of a buck 30 at 5'11" and my peak lean weight was 154. At 154 I was a legit sub-6, so that meant that I was carrying roughly 145 lean pounds, and at 130 I'm certain I was sub-6 also, since I ran track and cross-country. So at 130 sub-6 I had roughly 122 lean pounds, so that difference right there is a pure 23 lean pound gain.