perfect arnold like symmetrie on Dorian YATES

[JP_RC]

Arnold's waist was as wide as his sloppy shoulders, no dice. He looked like nothing off gear, at least Sergio would still have the skeletal structure at worst.

We're not talking about who had the best genetics or the best structure, we're talking about who was the best bodybuilder and between the 3 of them Arnold was the best by far.

[JP_RC]

Great criteria you have there. Same reason why Jay and Dorian win. Lou dwarfed Arnold guess he is the better bodybuilder.


Arnold just doesn't have the structure.

Please don't compare Arnold with Jay and Dorian.

I don't recall seeing Lou dwarfing Arnold ever.

Arnold's structure wasn't as bad as you think, he did have the widest clavicles of the 3.

[Jaime]

Please don't compare Arnold with Jay and Dorian.

I don't recall seeing Lou dwarfing Arnold ever.

Arnold's structure wasn't as bad as you think, he did have the widest clavicles of the 3.

I don't think it was terrible, it wasn't great either.


Lou wasn't as far along when Arnold was peak and you could tell he was bigger, no he didn't dwarf him, Arnold doesn't dwarf Sergio or Serge either.


Arnold was a great bodybuilder but to say he was better than Sergio is a stretch. This from a bodybuilding perspective. I would take either's build over Arnolds any day.

[Grape Ape]

Please don't compare Arnold with Jay and Dorian.

I don't recall seeing Lou dwarfing Arnold ever.

Arnold's structure wasn't as bad as you think, he did have the widest clavicles of the 3.

Why?  Yates is a 6 time Olympian.  He deserves to be mentioned with Arnold, in body bulding context.

[MB]

Why?  Yates is a 6 time Olympian.  He deserves to be mentioned with Arnold, in body bulding context.

Absolutely.  The three most dominant bodybuilders of all-time (judging by Olympia wins and least number of losses):  Arnold, Dorian, and Haney. 

[magicuser]

yates looks like a shorty there

bulky thighs

overbig back
shitty chest
puny arms

even flex wheeler was better

but neither anywhere near arnold

arnold is numero uno

[closeline]

Well, it's a matter of taste obviously, if you consider that as "perfect" more power to you.

Still, by todays judging standards, his arms are way too big for his delts, his bis are too big for his tris, his chest overpowers everything else anyway, and his legs are way too small for his upper body.

you are disqualified - bringing in the phrase "dodays judging standards" in a discussion about symmetrie in the eyes of a real "not thong-glute-addicted" man means you must be smoking crack

[Immortal_Technique]

Yates would kill Arnold on a stage.

Hope this helps.

[JP_RC]

Why?  Yates is a 6 time Olympian.  He deserves to be mentioned with Arnold, in body bulding context.

You're right, but I was never a fan of his.

[closeline]

Absolutely.  The three most dominant bodybuilders of all-time (judging by Olympia wins and least number of losses):  Arnold, Dorian, and Haney. 

where is coleman, he has the most wins in histroy of the IFBB including 8 Mr Os

oh, sorry, i forgot, he was beaten by many others when he competed almost natural against them LOL

[wes]

Serge and Sergio were awesome bodybuilders..........th at being said,neither were better than Arnold on contest day...........no other time matters and off season doesn`t atter in the least.

Sergio as awesome as he was ,never got into top shape except for 1972 in Essen Germany and even then he could have been harder,albeit,he could have beat arnold on that day with little legit complaints from anybody as Arnold hadn`t reached his peak yet at that time.

As far as Nubret goes,beautiful physique but no legs and this is at a time long before gargantuan quads became the norm.

Awesome upperbody,weak back, and stood with one leg in front of the other in most poses to hide his weak quads.

All told, the three of them look light years better than the slobs we have competing today!!

[JP_RC]

I don't think it was terrible, it wasn't great either.


Lou wasn't as far along when Arnold was peak and you could tell he was bigger, no he didn't dwarf him, Arnold doesn't dwarf Sergio or Serge either.


Arnold was a great bodybuilder but to say he was better than Sergio is a stretch. This from a bodybuilding perspective. I would take either's build over Arnolds any day.

Even if Lou was slightly bigger than Arnold, who had the better conditioning? Arnold. Who was better developed? Arnold.
Its not the same comparison as with Sergio or Serge.

Yes it can be said Arnold was better than Sergio simply because in 72 Arnold not at his best beat Sergio's best ever presentation. Now factor in Arnold in 73-74 and its pretty clear who would win.

If you like Sergio's or Serge's build better then that's fine, but it doesn't mean they are better bbs. I like Shawn's build better than Flex's, but I admit Flex was the better bb.

[French]

overall back were fairly weak.

Serge had a very good back with wide shoulders.

[Wiggs]

Prime Yates, is better than a prime Arnold everyday of the week and twice on Sunday...
But once again it's not a fair comparison across eras...

[JP_RC]

This is a better video

[Jaime]

Even if Lou was slightly bigger than Arnold, who had the better conditioning? Arnold. Who was better developed? Arnold.
Its not the same comparison as with Sergio or Serge.

Yes it can be said Arnold was better than Sergio simply because in 72 Arnold not at his best beat Sergio's best ever presentation. Now factor in Arnold in 73-74 and its pretty clear who would win.

If you like Sergio's or Serge's build better then that's fine, but it doesn't mean they are better bbs. I like Shawn's build better than Flex's, but I admit Flex was the better bb.

Politics. 72 was Sergio's year. Same reason Dorian, Jay and Ronnie won when they shouldn't have.

Not to do with anything other than the fact that Sergio was a better bodybuilder. He had better lines, better structure, better insertions, he was more balanced and more symmetrical. He did however have bad conditioning the majority of the time.

[Grape Ape]

Politics. 72 was Sergio's year. Same reason Dorian, Jay and Ronnie won when they shouldn't have.

Please explain the politics behind the Yates victories.  I've never understood the angle/benefits of having him win.

[MB]

where is coleman, he has the most wins in histroy of the IFBB including 8 Mr Os

oh, sorry, i forgot, he was beaten by many others when he competed almost natural against them LOL

Coleman was not as dominant as the other three.  He lost to nearly everyone in his first 5 years as a pro.  Then, he lost to Gunther as reigning Mr. O.  I would put him in 4th. 

[JP_RC]

Politics. 72 was Sergio's year. Same reason Dorian, Jay and Ronnie won when they shouldn't have.

Not to do with anything other than the fact that Sergio was a better bodybuilder. He had better lines, better structure, better insertions, he was more balanced and more symmetrical. He did however have bad conditioning the majority of the time.

Politics could be a reason as it has happened some other times as you mentioned, but Arnold was the better bb that year. Just watch the video.

How does Sergio have better lines? Arnold is wider and despite his waist, this gives him an insane taper just like Sergio.
I give it to you that Sergio has better structure overall, but Arnold has wider clavicles.
Better insertions? Explain how, where.
More balanced and symmetrical? Probably yes, but don't forget Sergio's back was always underpar.
Arnold was bigger and in better condition.

[NarcissisticDeity]

he was great in 1990

Second pic is right after the 1994 Olympia

[MORTALCOIL]

Politics could be a reason as it has happened some other times as you mentioned, but Arnold was the better bb that year. Just watch the video.

How does Sergio have better lines? Arnold is wider and despite his waist, this gives him an insane taper just like Sergio.
I give it to you that Sergio has better structure overall, but Arnold has wider clavicles.
Better insertions? Explain how, where.
More balanced and symmetrical? Probably yes, but don't forget Sergio's back was always underpar.
Arnold was bigger and in better condition.

No it wasn't. He wasn't Robinson for sure but he had a good back, actually better than Arnold's. The fact he never nailed his conditioning and that Arnold did gave Arnold the edge as it's not only about back development but detail that can only be showcased with a decent conditioning. Overall, Serggio had a better development than Arnold (his legs were much better in general-Arnold was ok in 74 if I recall, the rest of the time he just had chicken legs). The fact that some people here are discussing about Arnold being a "better" Bber than Yates just shows how biased they are. Nuthugging has reached its limits. Think what you want aesthetically (and I'd also rather have Arnold's physique anyday) but comps are judges on a number of criterias that would make Arnold look like an amateur next to Dorian if you take them at both their peaks.