Negative-only training

[Marty Champions]

if you got energy=motivation to train then train any damn way you want to. stress wether its negative or positive stress is still stress and stress=calorie stimulating=eat calories=then grow

[mitchyboy]

Some good info in this thread. I believe that even an overload of 105% of your one rep max, would be enough to elicit true negative training. Trying to go 140% more then your used to is suicide i m o lol. I think on a limited bassis this can be benifical.

As far as spot traing for growth, i do belive its 100% posible. Why do curls and such for arms if it wasnt?
I find people who follow the squat deadlift bench type of system, get stronger and a powerlifter look,"cough cough fat" looking.

I will tell you again. No matter what anyone tells me, or you, DIRECT STIMULATION OF A MUSCLE GROUP is absolutly necesary.
Now do i think thats the best way to train? Of course not.
Multi joint compound moves first, isolation moves next.

 Im realy looking forward to seeing your progress man.

[mass243]

Do you wanna have a contest with me mass234? Lets do a 6-week bodytranformation contest, with the members here being the judges. The winner will be the one who makes the greatest change/progress in 6 weeks time, are you up for it? And yeah, I will use only my sofa and dumbells

Hell no! Calm down, man  

[dj181]

Allright bro I need to find someone that I hate to put some "fuel in my fire" so dat I can use dat hatred/rage/anger to kind me even more energy and motivation. Maybe I should try DK once again Falcon kinda fits da mold, but if he snapped out of his "funk" then I would be scared shitless! Talk about potential

[US MUSL]

Five pages of negative training debate. Seriously, if you're going to train at home just buy a weight set and a bench and train with reps and sets. For someone out of shape conventional training is the way to go, not trying to condense years of not training into a few months of hurting your joints. Your 36 years old , not a kid anymore. Use your head not some crazy dreams to get back into shape.

[dj181]

Thanks for the goodwill mitchyboy And as far as direct stimulation is concerned, I really do believe that it is required by the bis, but not so much for the tris. In my opinon close-grip benches (yeah, and maybe close-grip push-ups off the side of a sofa lol) and dips are all that is needed for completely developed triceps. But once again, my biceps are BY FAR my worst upper body part, so maybe dats why I believe in isolating da bicep, coz I'm kinda dreaming dat it is da answer for ma shit biceps

[dj181]

Point taken US MUSL, but I think dat dis "age stuff" is complete and utter bullshit when it comes to achieving a peak, contest condition, and I'm out to prove it Also, I do some other exercises besides weighted push-ups and concentration curls. For example, Lunges, Wide-grip weighted Chins, DB Overhead Presses.

[mitchyboy]

If you have the abilaty to wide grips can you also do underhand chins?
Pull yourself up underhand, crimp your bis as hard as you can and slowly lower. Use your negatives here, mabye even hold a dumbell with you feet. With a chair get up and slowly lower yourself.
 Talk about direct stimulation haha

[dj181]

I hear ya man, but the problem with close-grip under-hand chins is that they also work the upper back quite severely. Remember... I'm trying to "spot gain" in only my arms

[mitchyboy]

Hahahaha. I been trying to figure out how to "spot gain" in my dick.

[dj181]

Ask Sly Stallone Word has it dat he was in a porno where he was pumping iron with his cock, although I don't know if he was able to "spot gain" with this particular technique

[US MUSL]

Point taken US MUSL, but I think dat dis "age stuff" is complete and utter bullshit when it comes to achieving a peak, contest condition, and I'm out to prove it .

Yes, you can still get in peak shape at 36, shouldn't be a problem. Just watch the stress you put on your tendons with this crazy negative rep state of mind. The older you get the harder it is for irritated tendons to heal.