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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #125 on: January 03, 2011, 07:36:50 PM »
Patton was the fucking man.  From shooting two of Pancho Villas men on the border, the getting shot in WW1, to cxompetin g in the Pentathlon on the Olympics, the comps in fencing, he knew what it took to survive battle and knew that while he was harshe, in the end far less soldiers would be dead doing things his way, than the cautious slow nonsense of the others who were perpetually bogged down.


I swear, just when you think you have heard everything.  

You can't revise history man... You can "believe" he had some answers... but the reality is that AFTER the slapping incident, he was just another support guy... That's the facts.

I'm not taking away anything he did BEFORE... was the guy great BEFORE... Yes.

AFTER... not so much.

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #126 on: January 03, 2011, 07:37:57 PM »
Yeah.....who cares. Patton had just awarded medals and visited badly injured soldiers, he was a little pissed off. My examples were extremes as were Patton's...
Patton got in trouble...the Germans thought it was a rouse by the Allies.

These posts have to be a joke....support guy?
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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #127 on: January 03, 2011, 07:38:39 PM »


Uh no.  First, Patton was on the front line having worked his way to the top.  Second, it was Patton who identified the flaws from Kaserine and whipped the army into shape.  His tactical knowledge enabled victory after victory.  It was his leadership that gained the performance of those troops whilst other leaders did not evoke the same results.

You don't seem to know much about his leadership and your just grasping on an incident.  Eishehower was a great leader, but attempting to disparage Patton on a single incident is just nonsense.

That is not what I'm doing at all... Please note that I'm simply saying that after the incident he was relegated to a lower position.

As I said, before the incident up to that time... he did a lot of great things.

AFTER... He didn't. That's all I'm saying... and I'm saying that YES... in that incident, he should have been checked and sent home.

If he had been anyone else BUT Patton, he would have.

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #128 on: January 03, 2011, 07:39:28 PM »
Yeah.....who cares. Patton had just awarded medals and visited badly injured soldiers, he was a little pissed off. My examples were extremes as were Patton's...
Patton got in trouble...the Germans thought it was a rouse by the Allies.

These posts have to be a joke....support guy?
How was he in an extreme situation in a Military hospital?

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #129 on: January 03, 2011, 07:39:40 PM »
You can't revise history man... You can "believe" he had some answers... but the reality is that AFTER the slapping incident, he was just another support guy... That's the facts.

I'm not taking away anything he did BEFORE... was the guy great BEFORE... Yes.

AFTER... not so much.

You are kidding right?  

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #130 on: January 03, 2011, 07:41:54 PM »
You are kidding right? 

You asking if I'm gonna switch over and start tugging on Patton's nut sack?

Uh... no.

Lots of nut huggers around here.


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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #131 on: January 03, 2011, 07:45:31 PM »
You asking if I'm gonna switch over and start tugging on Patton's nut sack?

Uh... no.

Lots of nut huggers around here.



Read a book on the man and his entire life from birth to death and you will understand why. 

His early life to me was far more interesting than his later life. 

The man was a fucking legend, a hero, a bad ass, a leader, a survivor, a killer, and exactly the man I would want to follow into battle or my kid as well if that day ever comes.   

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #132 on: January 03, 2011, 07:45:37 PM »
That is not what I'm doing at all... Please note that I'm simply saying that after the incident he was relegated to a lower position.

As I said, before the incident up to that time... he did a lot of great things.

AFTER... He didn't. That's all I'm saying... and I'm saying that YES... in that incident, he should have been checked and sent home.

If he had been anyone else BUT Patton, he would have.



After the incident he did.  Argentan, Bastogne, Arracourt, and on.

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #133 on: January 03, 2011, 07:46:46 PM »
I love Patton....he's adorn's the only modern military print I own. I have several books on him. He was a great American general. But there isn't a single General throughout history that you couldn't find fault with in some way. I have a massive collection of ww2 books on the Germans. I love the Wermacht and the SS. But they lost.....great Generals, superior equipment for much of the war...but they lost. Patton did much of his best work after the slap.
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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #134 on: January 03, 2011, 07:47:00 PM »


After the incident he did.  Argentan, Bastogne, Arracourt, and on.

Again, I say those were more testaments to his men than he... but I guess the people who actually did the fighting don't get any respect, cause after all... It's PATTON!!! OMG!!! FTW!!!!


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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #135 on: January 03, 2011, 07:48:25 PM »
I love Patton....he's adorn's the only modern military print I own. I have several books on him. He was a great American general. But there isn't a single General throughout history that you couldn't find fault with in some way. I have a massive collection of ww2 books on the Germans. I love the Wermacht and the SS. But they lost.....great Generals, superior equipment for much of the war...but they lost. Patton did much of his best work after the slap.

Of course not, because they're fucking PEOPLE!!!

You know... HUMAN BEINGS!!!

Just like everyone else... Hell HH6, you may be just as good a military leader as Patton, maybe better, but no one's hugging on your nuts because of whatever reason.

Fuck that shit.

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #136 on: January 03, 2011, 07:50:00 PM »
You just changed the argument. Patton was a genius, he wasn't Ike or Marshall...they played their part. One was a politician and the other an organizer, a numbers guy. Patton was a warrior.
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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #137 on: January 03, 2011, 07:51:10 PM »
I love Patton....he's adorn's the only modern military print I own. I have several books on him. He was a great American general. But there isn't a single General throughout history that you couldn't find fault with in some way. I have a massive collection of ww2 books on the Germans. I love the Wermacht and the SS. But they lost.....great Generals, superior equipment for much of the war...but they lost. Patton did much of his best work after the slap.

Patton is BY FAR my favorite historical figure of all time.  

I have a bust statue of him in my office, a 24 x 36 print of his pissing in the Danube, every book I can get my hand of him, figurines, etc.  

I went to West Point as a kid and always admired his statue.  

Enjoy.  I always get a smile when he says he took places off the map. 




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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #138 on: January 03, 2011, 07:51:48 PM »
Of course not, because they're fucking PEOPLE!!!

You know... HUMAN BEINGS!!!

Just like everyone else... Hell HH6, you may be just as good a military leader as Patton, maybe better, but no one's hugging on your nuts because of whatever reason.

Fuck that shit.

It's like that everywhere, from the military to corporate America to movies and so on. Take a movie like Avatar, for example. James Cameron got all the praise and accolades for that movie yet there were probably 500-1000 people all working on it and playing a vital role in its production.

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #139 on: January 03, 2011, 07:52:10 PM »
Of course not, because they're fucking PEOPLE!!!

You know... HUMAN BEINGS!!!

Just like everyone else... Hell HH6, you may be just as good a military leader as Patton, maybe better, but no one's hugging on your nuts because of whatever reason.

Fuck that shit.

Please.  Just stop. 

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #140 on: January 03, 2011, 07:52:14 PM »
Again, I say those were more testaments to his men than he... but I guess the people who actually did the fighting don't get any respect, cause after all... It's PATTON!!! OMG!!! FTW!!!!





Of course not.  It's not a riduculous opposite argument.  Saying that Patton was a great leader takes nothing away from the bravery and heroism of the men serving under him.

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #141 on: January 03, 2011, 07:52:24 PM »
You just changed the argument. Patton was a genius, he wasn't Ike or Marshall...they played their part. One was a politician and the other an organizer, a numbers guy. Patton was a warrior.

I'm not really changing the argument, I'm just conversing...

Not really the point of the thread, but I've done well on this hi-jack (wasn't intentional).

None the less.

You guys think this guy is still OK doing this if he used government time / resoources / money and what not to make the film that is obviously pretty sensitive in nature?

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #142 on: January 03, 2011, 07:53:25 PM »
It's like that everywhere, from the military to corporate America to movies and so on. Take a movie like Avatar, for example. James Cameron got all the praise and accolades for that movie yet there were probably 500-1000 people all working on it and playing a vital role in its production.

I didn't like that movie either... Totally pointless.

Please.  Just stop. 
Man are you kidding me?

After the shit you post around here? You're going to ask me to stop sometihng that I just admit I have a personal belief about?

Puhlease.

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #143 on: January 03, 2011, 07:53:38 PM »
I'm saying he should get a talking to, but thats it.  

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #144 on: January 03, 2011, 07:54:46 PM »
I didn't like that movie either... Totally pointless.
Man are you kidding me?

After the shit you post around here? You're going to ask me to stop sometihng that I just admit I have a personal belief about?

Puhlease.

Hahaha, it was the first to pop into my mind because I was watching it on TV a few hours ago.

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #145 on: January 03, 2011, 07:56:42 PM »
Hahaha, it was the first to pop into my mind because I was watching it on TV a few hours ago.

I thought it was visually pretty as hell. The special effects were as special as you can get... I loved that part.

The story just pissed me off... Once they killed off Sigourney Weaver's character, you knew EXACTLY what the fuck was gonna happen.

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #146 on: January 04, 2011, 07:05:42 AM »
I thought it was just some kooky co-captain who let a few frat boys put up an inappropriate movie.

now it turns out we have the 2nd in command on a major US Vessel spending his time actually making the movies.  Including men and women each engaged in sexual acts with the same gender, along with gay bashing and other stuff.  And, after making these movies - he didn't just let them youtube it.  No, he piped it into every room on the boat.

Geez, you can't make this shit up.  And getbiggers DEFEND it!

It's like... would they be cool if every member of every ship spent their time making offensive movies all day?  Or just cool when it happens now and again?

PLEASE!!

This was part of "XO Movie Night", one of the most popular things on the ship. And, how much do you want to bet that the actual movies shown had way more sex, cursing, and "gay slurs", than CAPT Honors' skits (Do you think they watch nothing but Disney flicks?).

This is ridiculous, all caused by this sucking up to wimpy left-winged policy, most recently the repeal of "Don't Ask; Don't Tell".


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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #147 on: January 04, 2011, 09:36:09 AM »
So he was relieved of command.   ::)  Starr had in her story the following statement:  "CNN left a message for Honors on Saturday. The Virginian-Pilot said he did not respond to requests for comment."

He should call her back and use "profanity" to tell her what he thinks about her reporting.   :)

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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #148 on: January 04, 2011, 09:38:33 AM »
Washington (CNN) -- Navy Capt. Owen Honors, who produced profanity- and slur-laden videos while second in command of the USS Enterprise, has been relieved of his command of the ship, a senior defense official told CNN Tuesday.

Excerpts from the videos and descriptions of their content were first published Saturday by The Virginian-Pilot newspaper in Norfolk, Virginia.

The videos on the paper's website, reviewed by CNN, feature a man identified by two Navy officials and The Virginian-Pilot as Honors, who at the time was the executive officer, or second in command, of the aircraft carrier. He recently took command of the carrier, winning one of the most coveted assignments in the U.S. Navy, which has only 11 aircraft carriers.

Navy spokesman Cmdr. Chris Sims said the videos, which were shown to the crew of the Enterprise while on deployment supporting the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2006 and 2007, are "inappropriate."

Honors is shown cursing along with other members of his staff in an attempt to demonstrate humor, according to the videos.



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The investigation was ordered Friday by Adm. John Harvey, the four-star head of the Navy's Fleet Forces Command, after the videos were detailed in The Virginian-Pilot. The paper also posted a link to some of the material, but edited it so that expletives were censored and some identities of junior Navy crew were disguised.

CNN left a message for Honors on Saturday. The Virginian-Pilot said he did not respond to requests for comment.

The Navy issued a statement Saturday, saying, in part, "production of videos, like the ones produced four to five years ago on USS Enterprise and now being written about in the Virginian-Pilot, were not acceptable then and are still not acceptable in today's Navy. The Navy does not endorse or condone these kinds of actions."

The statement also said, "U.S. Fleet Forces Command has initiated an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the production of these videos; however, it would be inappropriate to comment any further on the specifics of the investigation."

But the Saturday statement was an about-face from the initial military statement to the newspaper. In that statement, the Navy said the videos were "not created with the intent to offend anyone. The videos were intended to be humorous skits focusing the crew's attention on specific issues such as port visits, traffic safety, water conservation, ship cleanliness, etc."

Sims said senior officers had not yet seen the videos when they issued the first statement. It was after viewing them that the investigation was ordered, he said.

When the videos first came to light the "leadership" of the Enterprise was "directed" to make certain future videos were appropriate, the Navy said.

Sims said he was not aware if Honors was ever reprimanded. In the videos, Honors repeatedly jokes that his superior officers were unaware of the content of the videos and "they should absolutely not be held accountable."

The Virginian-Pilot says the videos were shown over the ship's internal broadcast system to its nearly 6,000 crew.


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Re: CNN and Far Lefts' panties all in a tizzy over Navy video. WTF?
« Reply #149 on: January 04, 2011, 09:42:20 AM »
Pussification of the USA.