2011 - NPC Excalibur HW - Coach vs. Alex23!

[Disgusted]

are you claiming its not ? hahahahahahahahaha

Of course.

[Fatpanda]

Of course.

hahahahahahaha

[Coach is Back!]

Panda, you seriously get more delusional by the minute.

[Disgusted]

hahahahahahaha

Typical of someone who knows they are wrong to act out in a childish manner. I'm still wating for you to answer my question please.

[Fatpanda]

you two make me laugh.

how can you seriously argue sugar has no nutritional value when it is accepted as fact by everyone on the planet since the discovery of sugar cane in 350AD (according to wiki).

you cannot be serious?

[Van_Bilderass]

"No nutritional value" is often understood/meant as having "no micronutrients." Not energy. What the correct definition is I don't know.

[dj181]

Maybe they are talking about the fact that sugar contains no vitamins and/or minerals? But it certainly replaces lost glycogen stores rather nicely

[Fatpanda]

"No nutritional value" is often understood/meant as having "no micronutrients." Not energy.

micronutrients will not save a starving man.

calories will.

[The Showstoppa]

Maybe they are talking about the fact that sugar contains no vitamins and/or minerals? But it certainly replaces lost glycogen stores rather nicely

that is essentially it's main function.

[makaveli25]

Why hasn't Fat Panda been banned from here. Such a fat delusional idiot. He has the audacity to argue about nutrition with guys who are professionals like coach and disgusted. Next thing you know he will be arguing with a pro about drug usage. Panda you look like absolute shit. If I showed your picture to anybody and asked them to rate your physique out of ten you would get a big 0. You have a big fat gut that hangs its disgusting. You are the definition of arm chair warrior. On his training log he has a picture of a cuboard filled with kit kats. Gfto out of sloppy tub of shit.

[Disgusted]

Maybe they are talking about the fact that sugar contains no vitamins and/or minerals? But it certainly replaces lost glycogen stores rather nicely

This is correct. According for fatpie as long as something provides energy is has a caloric value. Can you think of anything that provides energy that has no caloric value?

[Disgusted]

micronutrients will not save a starving man.

calories will.

Oh really? So as long as you are getting enough protein to live then the rest of your calories can come from table sugar and you can sustain a healthy life?

[Fatpanda]

Why hasn't Fat Panda been banned from here. Such a fat delusional idiot. He has the audacity to argue about nutrition with guys who are professionals like coach and disgusted. Next thing you know he will be arguing with a pro about drug usage. Panda you look like absolute shit. If I showed your picture to anybody and asked them to rate your physique out of ten you would get a big 0. You have a big fat gut that hangs its disgusting. You are the definition of arm chair warrior. On his training log he has a picture of a cuboard filled with kit kats. Gfto out of sloppy tub of shit.

thats quite a meltdown.

[kiwiol]

Why hasn't Fat Panda been banned from here. Such a fat delusional idiot. He has the audacity to argue about nutrition with guys who are professionals like coach and disgusted. Next thing you know he will be arguing with a pro about drug usage. Panda you look like absolute shit. If I showed your picture to anybody and asked them to rate your physique out of ten you would get a big 0. You have a big fat gut that hangs its disgusting. You are the definition of arm chair warrior. On his training log he has a picture of a cuboard filled with kit kats. Gfto out of sloppy tub of shit.

ROFL

[Fatpanda]

Oh really? So as long as you are getting enough protein to live then the rest of your calories can come from table sugar and you can sustain a healthy life?

no essential fatty acids are also 'essential'.

but i think you are getting your macro nutrients and micro nutrients mixed up 

[hazbin]

This is correct. According for fatpie as long as something provides energy is has a caloric value. Can you think of anything that provides energy that has no caloric value?

gasoline? coal? oil?

[Disgusted]

no essential fatty acids are also 'essential'.

but i think you are getting your macro nutrients and micro nutrients mixed up 

Quite the contradiction. You just said that calories will save a starving man, but now you say that micros are needed too? We need both to be healthy and table sugar even though it provides calories still provides no nutritional value to any real extent. Yes sugar provides energy, but that doesn't mean that everything that provides energy has a caloric value.

[Disgusted]

gasoline? coal? oil?

Cocaine, speed, thyroid various plant extracts etc. These all provide energy, but I am not sure of their caloric value.

[Fatpanda]

Quite the contradiction. You just said that calories will save a starving man, but now you say that micros are needed too? We need both to be healthy and table sugar even though it provides calories still provides no nutritional value to any real extent. Yes sugar provides energy, but  that doesn't mean that everything that provides energy has a caloric value.

calories from sugar would save a dying man.

micronutrients would not. - do you know what a micronutrient is ?

is this entire debate a joke ?

from that bolded statement i think it must be.

[Fatpanda]

Cocaine, speed, thyroid various plant extracts etc. These all provide energy, but I am not sure of their caloric value.

no they do not. 

[Disgusted]

calories from sugar would save a dying man.

micronutrients would not. - do you know what a micronutrient is ?

is this entire debate a joke ?

from that bolded statement i think it must be.

Read the above post on the bold. Also a starving man would not be saved given table sugar if he was in a malnourished state. Jesus, are you really that dumb or just trying to be difficult on purpose??

[Fatpanda]

Read the above post on the bold. Also a starving man would not be saved given table sugar if he was in a malnourished state. Jesus, are you really that dumb or just trying to be difficult on purpose??

hahahahaha so if a dying man found a dish of sugar cubes and a dish of polyphenols he should eat the polyphenols to stay alive hahahahahaha

how the hell did you get a expert tag ?

[Dominator285]

Panda.


Don't you find it weird that your ass is flat and your stomach is shaped like an ass?


Is it a birth defect or is that the look your going for?


Dom out!

[Disgusted]

no they do not. 

So you finally get it, after I gave you the answer.   So now we understand that just because something provides you with energy it need not have a caloric value. Class 101 dismissed and we haven't even gotten to physics yet.  

[Disgusted]

hahahahaha so if a dying man found a dish of sugar cubes and a dish of polyphenols he should eat the polyphenols to stay alive hahahahahaha

how the hell did you get a expert tag ?

That's not what I said. Now you are making an erroneous assumption about someone in a malnourished state and his nutritional needs. The definition of starving does not always mean he needs "just calories".