now this is how you own somebody- courtesy of 'chaos'

[no one]

god

damn.

Is that not essentially a standard bodybuilding diet with a "snack" of kit kats or other junk?

I mean you preach this diet of getting lean eating kit kats and ice cream, yet the majority of your diet is what would be considered a normal diet.

i preached that controlling calories are what count - after you meet your protein needs of 1g per pound of muscle.

i have protein shake for breakfast and before/after workout, the rest of the time its curries, pasta, burgers, fries, chocolate icecream, yogurts etc.

nowhere near the standard bodybuilder diet of extremely low fat or the extremely low carb - i could if i wanted - as studies show calories are what count (after protein needs are met of course), i simply do not like bland dry food like baked potatoes, brown rice, dry tuna or chicken breasts etc

a calorie is a calorie, so i'd rather those are tasty calories.

First your 1g per pound of muscle........are you believing that you have 200+lbs of muscle on your frame?

Second if 30+% of your diet is protein there is no way you are getting that by eating "curries, pasta, burgers, fries, chocolate icecream, yogurts etc." and keeping your calories in check, unless of course you are eating very small portions......like a regular diet.  As far as "standard bodybuilding" diet goes, only some guys believe in that low/no carb/fat stuff, quite a few preach a 40/30/30 split........almost the same thing you are doing!!


So in other words, your "I can get ripped eating whatever I want", turned into "I can get ripped eating whatever I was as long as protein requirements are met"....sound like a bodybuilders diet to me.

But a calorie is not just a calorie, if so, I would like to see you get ripped on a diet consisting solely of kit kats and ice cream, no protein.

i don't know what else to say.

a calorie is a calorie, i do eat curries etc, and i am losing weight eating whatever i like. if that happens to be 33/33/33 or 40/30/30 or 98/1/1 it doesn't matter. if that happens to be mcdonalds, ice cream and chocolate then thats what it is.

no i don't think i have 200lbs of muscle on me, i would guess 180lbs (hopefully), but studies show any excess protein that isn't used by the body for synthesis is converted into glycogen, like carbs. So if i eat a little extra protein than required for protein sysnthsis because i chose to, its no big deal as i am watching calories and thats all that matters.

As far as weight loss is concerned yes, true. My only pointbeing that you are preaching about how you eat whatever you want, but that's not true, you are specifically eating a certain amount of protein, that means at the end of the day if you are at 2800 calories and 200g protein, you would likely grab the chicken breast to get that extra protein before you grabbed a kit kat.......

Seems to me that you are following a standard diet and I think you just pump up the "I can eat whatever I want" line to get people to pay attention to you.

Lame.

Good luck with your goals.

no.

lame is you as per usual missing the point entirely, and myself once again feeling like Da Vinci teaching physics to a pig.

i have never at any point ever said protein was the same as carbs and fats in regard to calories.

i have always made it 100% crystal clear that protein must be taken at 1g per lb.

i eat 3000 calories a day

the 180g of protein i require is 720 calories.

that leaves me with 2280 calories worth of food that can be anything i want. Now i know you struggle to keep up so i'll put it in plain english for you.

I CAN EAT 2280 CALORIES OF WHATEVER I WANT - ANY MACRO, ANY FOOD TYPE, ANYTHING.

this does not mean i eat baked potatos and tune or rice and steak or oats etc etc with a piece of chocolate as a snack or treat.

this does not mean i'm just eating a standard diet. unless standard diet specify meet protein requirements then eat whatever you want while monitoring calorie intake.

standard diets in the scientific world are all calorie based focussed on meeting RDA's. Of which 40g or so is the recommended protein intake.

So you consume 100% pure protein, no carbs or fats added? And as shown in your own diet posts above you are taking in well over 200g of protein, far from the 180 you try to use in your example.

"i have never at any point ever said protein was the same as carbs and fats in regard to calories."

Yet you continually say a calorie is a calorie........now it's not when it come to protein? Make up your mind.

As far as you being Da Vinci.........LMFAO, you are too stupid to comprehend that you are following a classic diet, you think that because you fill in you extra calories with kit kats and ice cream you are ground breaking or something, you aren't doing anything that hasn't been done by every bodybuilder and gym rat on the planet, it's called a diet, no matter how hard you try to make it seem different, it's not.

Get off your false high horse and come back down to reality, you yourself say that you believe you have 180lbs of muscle mass on your frame? LMFAO yet you are going to diet down to 175? I guess bones and organs and shit like that are gravity free and therefore weigh nothing for you, and you are still going to lose 5 lbs of muscle mass.

HAHAHAA damn you're stupid.

getbig at its finest right there.

very well done, sir.

[no one]

as a side note...

i don't know what else to say.

a calorie is a calorie, i do eat curries etc, and i am losing weight eating whatever i like. if that happens to be 33/33/33 or 40/30/30 or 98/1/1 it doesn't matter. if that happens to be mcdonalds, ice cream and chocolate then thats what it is.

no i don't think i have 200lbs of muscle on me, i would guess 180lbs (hopefully), but studies show any excess protein that isn't used by the body for synthesis is converted into glycogen, like carbs. So if i eat a little extra protein than required for protein sysnthsis because i chose to, its no big deal as i am watching calories and thats all that matters.

maybe read your 'studies' a little more closely you fat bag of shit.

gluconeogenisis only occurs in very low carb diets, not in diets where you take in 250 grams a day like you are.  here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluconeogenesis  

not only are you an idiot, you can't even properly apply the knowledge your trying to grasp, but yet you still continue to dispense advise. lol

'i can eat 200 grams of protein a day in my diet even if my body doesn't need it cause it will convert to glucose'

oh brother ahahahahahahahahahahahah a

thanks for the laughs, sweetheart.

[chaos]

i don't know what else to say.

 

[GWAR]

whos going to read all that shit 

[chaos]

whos going to read all that shit 

Your mom reads all that shit.

[disturbia]

Your mom reads all that shit.

lol

[tu_holmes]

A calorie is just a calorie man!!!

As long as you follow a bodybuilding diet and don't eat too many of them.

[Disgusted]

I read it all and damn that boy is out there. 

[JOHN MATRIX]

too long

[Coach is Back!]

If I'm understanding his correctly he's saying as long as he get's his 180gr of protein (4 cal per gram x 180 = 720cal) of a 3000 per day diet, the remainder of the 2280cal can be made up of ANYTHING??

Hhahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahhahahahahahahah!

Just to be clear..didn't he say that he could (or will) match or beat my conditioning of a few years ago? Hey, I'll be the first to admit I wasn't exactly shredded but he's delusional.

[Disgusted]

If I'm understanding his correctly he's saying as long as he get's his 180gr of protein (4 cal per gram x 180 = 720cal) of a 3000 per day diet, the remainder of the 2280cal can be made up of ANYTHING??

Hhahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahhahahahahahahah!

Just to be clear..didn't he say that he could (or will) match or beat my conditioning of a few years ago? Hey, I'll be the first to admit I wasn't exactly shredded but he's delusional.

[kiwiol]

That's a good read, but this post by Gene is shorter, more brutal and hilarious

fatpanda u fat fuck
stop sucking up bandwidth w/ the trash u post
youre banned from the vboard

 

[chaos]

That's a good read, but this post by Gene is shorter, more brutal and hilarious

 

Genes post was definitely hilarious, but I feel he didn't bring specifics to the post, he generalized and destroyed like an atomic bomb........where as my posts were more like sniper shots, each one hitting specific points to destroy the enemy.

Either way you slice it, the fat fuck won't recover, although if you read his latest post in his training log, he's flailing around pathetically trying to recover.

[d0nny2600]

Genes post was definitely hilarious, but I feel he didn't bring specifics to the post, he generalized and destroyed like an atomic bomb........where as my posts were more like sniper shots, each one hitting specific points to destroy the enemy.

Either way you slice it, the fat fuck won't recover, although if you read his latest post in his training log, he's flailing around pathetically trying to recover.

That owning was brutal. One of your best. He wont recover.

[newmom]

oh can you chaps stop blowing up chaos noggin...It's big enough as it is

















 

[Mr Nobody]

That's a good read, but this post by Gene is shorter, more brutal and hilarious

 

Gene throwing the "smackdown" in a simple way he maybe training on this type communication since his arm is hurt not sure but looks promising.

[chaos]

oh can you chaps stop blowing up chaos noggin...It's big enough as it is

















 

Don't you have a kitchen to clean or something?

[newmom]

Don't you have a kitchen to clean or something?

House is clean and dinner is in the crockpot. Don't you have to tinker with your motorbike or ride your broken mountain bike

[YngiweRhoads]

[chaos]

ride your broken mountain bike

Never fixed that fucking thing, it's still broken on my patio..........buy me a new one.

[mass243]

Don't you have a kitchen to clean or something?

Hahhhaa! That, fellow getbiggers, is talk of a man with testicles and low estrogen levels  

[newmom]

Never fixed that fucking thing, it's still broken on my patio..........buy me a new one.

 

hahaha looks like I may do that very soon

[newmom]

Hahhhaa! That, fellow getbiggers, is talk of a man with testicles and low estrogen levels  

 

[Mr Nobody]

Never fixed that fucking thing, it's still broken on my patio..........buy me a new one.

Whats the problem with it bro, nothing Starrett tools cant fix.

[myt1]

There's nothing better than someone saying they "don't know what else to say" and then rambling on with a short novel's worth of nonsense.  


So if I am understanding all of this correctly.....a calorie is calorie.....unless it's the first 720 calories..... in which case those calories should come from protein.....even though the calories from protein are the same as a calorie from carbs and fats...... but since they are actually all just calories, and the in fact all calories are the same........you should just eat whatever you want.......but not until after you eat the protein calories you need, cuz those are more important compared to the carb and fat calories you want to eat.........which are really all just the same?


If FatFuck would have just come out and said it so simply before in just one paragraph, the light switch would have flipped for me 6 months ago and I would be shredded by now.