3 meals... 180 grams of protein... overtrain... and good results

[Heavy_Hitter]

Emeric is the funniest guy there. Doesn't matter who is asking questions, what their stats and goals are, he will recommend things like 30mg of test 3 times per week max.

Or someone asking about GH, then Emeric comes in saying "you don't need GH". Again, doesn't matter if guy is a competitor or whatever.
Everyone needs chicken embryo extract though.  

Also, if everyone took the "vets" advice there there would be no professionalmuscle. Who is in "need" (in their view) of hormones on that board? Maybe b-boy and a couple of others. But since they only use a couple of cc's of test and can't afford GH and often say they have prescriptions this would in no way support the dozens of sponsors there.

It's a business after all. And not a business of selling to top amateurs and pros ordering 1 bottle of test every 6 months. 

 Hahah, Emeric is the village idiot!!! Remember when a guy posted his pic he was 210lbs 8% he told the guy "You should get off juice you can grow more naturally" ..... I looked back in that guys post and four years ago he had posted a pic where he was 150lbs... hahahahah.... I have many times wondered how much even the vets laugh and bite their tongue at his stupid comments.

[buselmo]

in the end... it's a fucking business... you do whatever you can to sell.
and bodybuilders are the perfect target. you tell them "I have a secret way to eat and train and you can get 10 times the gains with less gear and you just have to train in a super secret way and eat super secret food"... then get a couple of clients saying "yup, he trained me and that's what happened" because that client doesn't want to disclose anything about gear be it for legal reasons, insecurity, or embarrassment of having to use 5x more gear to gain 5 lbs... and you get a perfect recipe for a business.

I can understand of a national competitor would say "I don't want to talk about gear" or "I only use cell tech" while saying it sarcastically so that he doesn't get famous on the boards and says he uses 3-4 grams of gear with 10 iu of gh and when judges read about it in the forums and see him on stage, they won't let him win cause he's ... again... bad for business and proves that it's all drugs...

but what i can't understand is national competitors saying they use 500 test and 400 eq on forums... meaning, they don't care about legal consequences, they don't care what judges will say.... but are just plain lying to look like they're an anomaly.

one thing they should understand... being truthful makes you earn respect no matter what... unless you're an idiot. like, 3 grams of gear and you still don't know how to train (in any style or any way) and you don't know what kind of food your body responds best to, and you weigh 180 lbs at 5'10... that's different... that's not bad genetics... that's just being retarded.

i know this last part because one of my friends confronted me once about his gear usage... he didn't even look like he went to the gym... just looked like a fat kid... he was on 750 test, 50 mg winny daily for 12 weeks, and 300 mg deca... I sat down with him and told him to go to the gym with me to learn how to train, tried different diets with him... a year later, he gained a shit ton of muscle and is now one of the big boys in the gym. he responds badly to test (no results whatsoever), but grows like a fucking weed on EQ... weird, but you have to find out which anabolic works best for you and build on that.


but again... i understand people who lie for a legit reason like i mentioned about... but fuck people who lie just to look good 

[LATS]

  i agree completely also buselmo.. i take the easier way out every time.. for most it is just human nature..lol.. and as i stated, i think the vast majority do fib a bit in regards to gear and that is why BIG A to his credit came out with that post.. he could not take it anymore.. one shoudl gain all they can off low dosages.. it makes me sick to see someone who has trained for a year on a gram of test.. but that is just me.. get some experience behind ya before ya venture into that deep a water.. now grams are the norm.. i dont begrudge anyone for it at all.. just not for me..

[Heavy_Hitter]

in the end... it's a fucking business... you do whatever you can to sell.
and bodybuilders are the perfect target. you tell them "I have a secret way to eat and train and you can get 10 times the gains with less gear and you just have to train in a super secret way and eat super secret food"... then get a couple of clients saying "yup, he trained me and that's what happened" because that client doesn't want to disclose anything about gear be it for legal reasons, insecurity, or embarrassment of having to use 5x more gear to gain 5 lbs... and you get a perfect recipe for a business.

I can understand of a national competitor would say "I don't want to talk about gear" or "I only use cell tech" while saying it sarcastically so that he doesn't get famous on the boards and says he uses 3-4 grams of gear with 10 iu of gh and when judges read about it in the forums and see him on stage, they won't let him win cause he's ... again... bad for business and proves that it's all drugs...

but what i can't understand is national competitors saying they use 500 test and 400 eq on forums... meaning, they don't care about legal consequences, they don't care what judges will say.... but are just plain lying to look like they're an anomaly.
one thing they should understand... being truthful makes you earn respect no matter what... unless you're an idiot. like, 3 grams of gear and you still don't know how to train (in any style or any way) and you don't know what kind of food your body responds best to, and you weigh 180 lbs at 5'10... that's different... that's not bad genetics... that's just being retarded.

i know this last part because one of my friends confronted me once about his gear usage... he didn't even look like he went to the gym... just looked like a fat kid... he was on 750 test, 50 mg winny daily for 12 weeks, and 300 mg deca... I sat down with him and told him to go to the gym with me to learn how to train, tried different diets with him... a year later, he gained a shit ton of muscle and is now one of the big boys in the gym. he responds badly to test (no results whatsoever), but grows like a fucking weed on EQ... weird, but you have to find out which anabolic works best for you and build on that.


but again... i understand people who lie for a legit reason like i mentioned about... but fuck people who lie just to look good 

 Great post as usual Buselmo!


 And Lats you are also my favorite mod on that site, very humble, logical, and tell it like it is. And yes, I need to make it clear BigA has always said bodybuilding was mostly drugs and genetics, even when he was a competitor himself, before he retired!

[no one]

You're a good guy LATS, best mod on PM.  

However there are a few freaks over there who claim they continue growing when off everything. Not only do they not lose anything, they just continue gaining. B-boy, Gooey, Dusty Hanshaw come to mind as guys who claim this.

this guy is the biggest douchebag on that site.

his whole 'im better than the rest of the board' schtick  shows him to be a cocky, conceited asshole.

and the best part is he has nothing to be conceited about- he's washed out of the last two shows he's entered. he's his own biggest fan.

[Tito24]

[wild willie]

i probably hover right around 150-200 grams of protein as well.....and maybe 250 or so on the carbs....much like mentzer back in the late 70s.....i need carbs or i am shot.....no energy to do anything.....i grow better with this system of dieting.....although i need to watch my cals....or else i will get portly in a hurry.....but i certainly do not eat real clean.


pancakes.....peanut butter and jelly....cottage cheese.....steak sandwiches......not a real bad diet.....but not straight chicken breasts and rice......i eat with a little more flexibility than most.

[MORTALCOIL]

i probably hover right around 150-200 grams of protein as well.....and maybe 250 or so on the carbs....much like mentzer back in the late 70s.....i need carbs or i am shot.....no energy to do anything.....i grow better with this system of dieting.....although i need to watch my cals....or else i will get portly in a hurry.....but i certainly do not eat real clean.


pancakes.....peanut butter and jelly....cottage cheese.....steak sandwiches......not a real bad diet.....but not straight chicken breasts and rice......i eat with a little more flexibility than most.

Do you still manage to pack muscle buy just smelling d-bol from another room, you dwarfish "athletic" koala?

[Meso_z]

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[Moen]

Buselmo is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIrCFrFpHvw