Finally WOLF has brought up his calves!!

[Lord of the Roidz]

most bodybuilders dont care about and dont pay any attention to calves. it doesnt effect placings and it is barely effects the aesthetics of the 8 mandatories.

I remember seeing a pic of yours and they looked pretty untrained as well. Let's face it, if you're huge and you're wearing shorts with pathetic calves, it ruins the whole look.

[alpmaster]

Holy fuck @ the retardedness of this thread...


You CANNOT "bring up" calves, their size is determined by how long the muscle is vs how long the tendon is. The muscle itself is too short and cannot be increased. Go look at massive amount of black bodybuilders who generally have short muscle bellies and long tendons, they're ALL small. Look at fankhousers or jays, the muscle itself actually connects very low near the ankle on a short tendon.

It's like saying if you have high inserted lats you need to work on bringing them down lower? Lol. It's impossible, this is why no bodybuilder EVER has had small calves at any point in his lifetime, THEN made them great.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Holy fuck @ the retardedness of this thread...


You CANNOT "bring up" calves, their size is determined by how long the muscle is vs how long the tendon is. The muscle itself is too short and cannot be increased. Go look at massive amount of black bodybuilders who generally have short muscle bellies and long tendons, they're ALL small. Look at fankhousers or jays, the muscle itself actually connects very low near the ankle on a short tendon.

It's like saying if you have high inserted lats you need to work on bringing them down lower? Lol. It's impossible, this is why no bodybuilder EVER has had small calves at any point in his lifetime, THEN made them great.

Right it's all got to do with muscle cell allocation in the particular muscle

[che]

Holy fuck @ the retardedness of this thread...


You CANNOT "bring up" calves, their size is determined by how long the muscle is vs how long the tendon is. The muscle itself is too short and cannot be increased. Go look at massive amount of black bodybuilders who generally have short muscle bellies and long tendons, they're ALL small. Look at fankhousers or jays, the muscle itself actually connects very low near the ankle on a short tendon.

It's like saying if you have high inserted lats you need to work on bringing them down lower? Lol. It's impossible, this is why no bodybuilder EVER has had small calves at any point in his lifetime, THEN made them great.

  You are a retard .

[TacoBell]

Good to see he's working on his weak points.

How come every time I drop my pants in public I get arrested 

[NarcissisticDeity]

You are a retard .

He's right on the money , muscle length can NOT be changed ( for the positive that is tears can change the length as Yates  ) clavicle width can't change , the amount of muscle cells in the given muscle like Wolf's calves , unless he injects oil or something else the length , shape and size of those suckers are doomed.

[che]

He's right on the money , muscle length can NOT be changed ( for the positive that is tears can change the length as Yates  ) clavicle width can't change , the amount of muscle cells in the given muscle like Wolf's calves , unless he injects oil or something else the length , shape and size of those suckers are doomed.

 C'mon man  ,  of course you can change the size of your calves.

[NarcissisticDeity]

C'mon man  ,  of course you can change the size of your calves.

to their genetic limits of course , Arnold did , like I said it's all dependent on how much muscle cells you have in that given area , Wolf like a lot of black bodybuilders doesn't have a great abundance of cells in his calves , I'm sure he pounded the shit out of his calves and they went no where , not lack of trying just lack of cells

[JOHN MATRIX]

Holy fuck @ the retardedness of this thread...


You CANNOT "bring up" calves, their size is determined by how long the muscle is vs how long the tendon is. The muscle itself is too short and cannot be increased. Go look at massive amount of black bodybuilders who generally have short muscle bellies and long tendons, they're ALL small. Look at fankhousers or jays, the muscle itself actually connects very low near the ankle on a short tendon.

It's like saying if you have high inserted lats you need to work on bringing them down lower? Lol. It's impossible, this is why no bodybuilder EVER has had small calves at any point in his lifetime, THEN made them great.

EXACTLY.

you can only 'build' your calves if you have the muscle there to begin with. whats WOLF supposed to do, make his shins thicker and more diamond shape?? 

[che]

to their genetic limits of course , Arnold did , like I said it's all dependent on how much muscle cells you have in that given area , Wolf like a lot of black bodybuilders doesn't have a great abundance of cells in his calves , I'm sure he pounded the shit out of his calves and they went no where , not lack of trying just lack of cells

I'm sure he never trained his calves until it was too late .90% of people that I know don't train their calves or do 3 sets (lightweight)  at the end of  15 sets of heavy leg workout ..

[Van_Bilderass]

You are a retard .

He is right. No one ever made bad calves good. Sure they increase in size from training but if you're calves are horrible they're going to stay horrible.

How much do you think JJ could increase his calf size through training? Give us the program he needs to bring them up to match the rest.

[alpmaster]

C'mon man  ,  of course you can change the size of your calves.

We're saying you CANNOT change where they insert, and that will depict their true size. Look at this picture of Toney Freeman



Truly look at the calves, their size, muscularity, and where the actual muscle ends. They are well developed and very muscular, THEY JUST CONNECT to high up on the back of his shin because it's a short muscle + long tendon. This is apparent largely with a lot of black bodybuilders as that is one of their common genetic traits, you think 9/10 black bodybuilders don't train their calves, and 9/10 white bodybuilders do? No. Good calves are ALWAYS genetic, even the people with the good ones always say it. It's how long of a muscle belly you have to work with, thus why NO ONE goes from bad calves to good calves.

[che]

He is right. No one ever made bad calves good. Sure they increase in size from training but if you're calves are horrible they're going to stay horrible.

How much do you think JJ could increase his calf size through training? Give us the program he needs to bring them up to match the rest.

Arnold did  and many others ,80's bodybuilders (-Tony Pearson) they all had good calves even African Americans , nowadays most bodybuilders have shitty calves even white bodybuilders. .
Modern bodybuilders don't care about calves because proportions/symmetry aren't part of bodybuilding judging criteria  anymore.

[Van_Bilderass]

Tony Pearson

Do you really want to use this example?   Go take a look at a few pics of the dude.

Arnold never had bad calves. That was myth built by the magazines.

[Nirvana]

Arnold did  and many others ,80's bodybuilders (-Tony Pearson) they all had good calves even African Americans , nowadays most bodybuilders have shitty calves even white bodybuilders. .
Modern bodybuilders don't care about calves because proportions/symmetry aren't part of bodybuilding judging criteria  anymore.

some peoples just WON'T grow no matter what.

mine are like that.  there's nothing you can do, it's all genetic no matter how hard you work them.

[che]

Do you really want to use this example?   Go take a look at a few pics of the dude.

Arnold never had bad calves. That was myth built by the magazines.

Oh brother   (-= minus)

[che]

some peoples just WON'T grow no matter what.

mine are like that.  there's nothing you can do, it's all genetic no matter how hard you work them.

I agree , some people arms won't grow  ,some people chest won't grow ........................ ........................ ......etc.

[Van_Bilderass]

Oh brother   (-= minus)

How does it feel to know you used an example of a guy with implants? I mean really.

[che]

How does it feel to know you used an example of a guy with implants? I mean really.

hahaha are you retarded Van Bilderass ? ,I said ''80's bodybuilders (minus Tony Pearson )[''

[Van_Bilderass]

hahaha are you retarded Van Bilderass ? ,I said ''80's bodybuilders (minus Tony Pearson )[''

Alright my bad.  Read it as a dash, not a minus sign.

[che]

Alright my bad.  Read it as a dash, not a minus sign.

[Boost]

Maybe someone should send him a link to this stickied thread.

The Calves Thread: the mtwain protocol for growth and more

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=156877.0

[HTexan]

he needs to buy them.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

He is right. No one ever made bad calves good. Sure they increase in size from training but if you're calves are horrible they're going to stay horrible.

How much do you think JJ could increase his calf size through training? Give us the program he needs to bring them up to match the rest.

The problem with JJ's is that he trains them the same way he trains everything else. Way to heavy. Same with Ronnie. Because using massive amounts of drugs and heavy weight builds every muscle on the body except calves(for most people who don't have good calves). These guys don't really have the muscle mind connection with calves. So they load tons of weight and bounce up and down and call it a calve routine.

[#1 Klaus fan]

These guys would get decent calves from walking. But they are too lazy to do even that.