Author Topic: Senate to vote on repealing ObamaCare (Read 5854 times)

240 is Back · « **Reply #25 on:** February 03, 2011, 11:09:55 AM »

Thune keeping it real

War-Horse · « **Reply #26 on:** February 03, 2011, 12:57:05 PM »

Hahaha. I cant wait for the repubs to tell americans that insurance will begin denying on pre-existing conditions again...(Did you know they have entire departments designed to find ANYTHING in your past or present to deny you)

And now any children living at home from 19-26yrs old are not covered.
And it'll be great when they cancel your policy just because you filed a claim. Bring it on.....

tonymctones · « **Reply #27 on:** February 03, 2011, 01:09:06 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on February 03, 2011, 12:57:05 PM

Hahaha. I cant wait for the repubs to tell americans that insurance will begin denying on pre-existing conditions again...(Did you know they have entire departments designed to find ANYTHING in your past or present to deny you)

And now any children living at home from 19-26yrs old are not covered.
And it'll be great when they cancel your policy just because you filed a claim. Bring it on.....

didnt know the republicans where against that...

idiot!!!

Kazan · « **Reply #28 on:** February 03, 2011, 01:36:54 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on February 03, 2011, 12:57:05 PM

Hahaha. I cant wait for the repubs to tell americans that insurance will begin denying on pre-existing conditions again...(Did you know they have entire departments designed to find ANYTHING in your past or present to deny you)

And now any children living at home from 19-26yrs old are not covered.
And it'll be great when they cancel your policy just because you filed a claim. Bring it on.....

This is the thinking that has this country fucked up. You seem to think insurance companies just sprang out of thin air and monopolized and turned the healthcare into big business. HMO act of '73 was what gave them the power, who was behind that?

War-Horse · « **Reply #29 on:** February 03, 2011, 01:40:55 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on February 03, 2011, 01:09:06 PM

didnt know the republicans where against that...

idiot!!!

They want to repeal it dumbass. Itll be a trainwreck.

James · « **Reply #30 on:** February 03, 2011, 01:43:29 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on February 03, 2011, 12:57:05 PM

Hahaha. I cant wait for the repubs to tell americans that insurance will begin denying on pre-existing conditions again...(Did you know they have entire departments designed to find ANYTHING in your past or present to deny you)

You mean just like when you apply for a credit card or loan, they check your credit history ?

or when you apply for auto insurance they check your driving record ?

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And now any children living at home from 19-26yrs old are not covered.
And it'll be great when they cancel your policy just because you filed a claim. Bring it on.....

Prior to Obamacare they could stay on till 23 as long as they were in school. Since when is a 25 yr old (not going to school) considered a "child" ?

It seems you understand Insurance about as much as you do our tax code.

Kazan · « **Reply #31 on:** February 03, 2011, 01:44:30 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on February 03, 2011, 01:40:55 PM

They want to repeal it dumbass. Itll be a trainwreck.

How? The healtcare bill is so back ended most of it isn't even in effect yet

War-Horse · « **Reply #32 on:** February 03, 2011, 01:45:32 PM »

Quote from: Kazan on February 03, 2011, 01:36:54 PM

This is the thinking that has this country fucked up. You seem to think insurance companies just sprang out of thin air and monopolized and turned the healthcare into big business. HMO act of '73 was what gave them the power, who was behind that?

Good lord. Try to stay on subject will ya? Im not stating who gave them power dumbass. Insurance companies own BANKS!!!.....see why were f'd up now?? Only profits matter not people.
And by mentioning HMO's it was a way for medicare to stay competitive in pricing which is not my point...

This will be fun to watch.

War-Horse · « **Reply #33 on:** February 03, 2011, 01:47:25 PM »

Quote from: Kazan on February 03, 2011, 01:44:30 PM

How? The healtcare bill is so back ended most of it isn't even in effect yet

Well, better then than never.

War-Horse · « **Reply #34 on:** February 03, 2011, 01:51:01 PM »

Quote from: James on February 03, 2011, 01:43:29 PM

You mean just like when you apply for a credit card or loan, they check your credit history ?

or when you apply for auto insurance they check your driving record ?

Prior to Obamacare they could stay on till 23 as long as they were in school. Since when is a 25 yr old (not going to school) considered a "child" ?

Healthcare is a little different....the cost of losses is in billions. Do you enjoy it when millons of americans go the E.R. today and pass the bill to you?? How about doing something about it? At least obamas trying, more than i can say for repubs so far.

Kazan · « **Reply #35 on:** February 03, 2011, 01:51:21 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on February 03, 2011, 01:45:32 PM

Good lord. Try to stay on subject will ya? Im not stating who gave them power dumbass. Insurance companies own BANKS!!!.....see why were f'd up now?? Only profits matter not people.
And by mentioning HMO's it was a way for medicare to stay competitive in pricing which is not my point...

This will be fun to watch.

So that doesn't matter? That the government setup this fucking mess in the first place and you are going to rely on them to "fix" it. Not to mention that the mandate is unconstitutional and a direct assault on personal freedom. And you call me the a dumbass

I don't care what your point is, the fact is that the federal government has no authority in the matter, medicaid, medicare, all these government run schemes are a house of cards and a stiff wind just blew.

Kazan · « **Reply #36 on:** February 03, 2011, 01:54:00 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on February 03, 2011, 01:51:01 PM

Healthcare is a little different....the cost of losses is in billions. Do you enjoy it when millons of americans go the E.R. today and pass the bill to you?? How about doing something about it? At least obamas trying, more than i can say for repubs so far.

As soon as you can show me where in the constitution that healthcare is a right, I will concede the argument. Obama has no business and or constitutional authority to do anything about it.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #37 on:** February 03, 2011, 01:55:08 PM »

Bama was against the mandate before he was for it.

Kazan · « **Reply #38 on:** February 03, 2011, 01:57:40 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on February 03, 2011, 01:55:08 PM

Bama was against the mandate before he was for it.

That is not the point, now I'm pretty sure everyone has to take the constitution test to pass 8th grade, why the constitutional illiteracy?

James · « **Reply #39 on:** February 03, 2011, 01:57:53 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on February 03, 2011, 01:51:01 PM

Healthcare is a little different....the cost of losses is in billions. Do you enjoy it when millons of americans go the E.R. today and pass the bill to you?? How about doing something about it? At least obamas trying, more than i can say for repubs so far.

You mean like how Obama said that his Health care Bill would reduce premiums, and yet I am paying more than before it was passed?

or maybe you mean like the fact that now in 34 Sates, you can no longer get a Child Only Policy because of Omamacare?

or maybe you mean like the additional medicaid cost to the States, that will be passed onto me ?

tonymctones · « **Reply #40 on:** February 03, 2011, 01:58:32 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on February 03, 2011, 01:40:55 PM

They want to repeal it dumbass. Itll be a trainwreck.

so this means that anytime a politician votes against a bill they are against the ENTIRE BILL?

great fuking logic moron...

War-Horse · « **Reply #41 on:** February 03, 2011, 02:01:05 PM »

Quote from: Kazan on February 03, 2011, 01:51:21 PM

So that doesn't matter? That the government setup this fucking mess in the first place and you are going to rely on them to "fix" it. Not to mention that the mandate is unconstitutional and a direct assault on personal freedom. And you call me the a dumbass

I don't care what your point is, the fact is that the federal government has no authority in the matter, medicaid, medicare, all these government run schemes are a house of cards and a stiff wind just blew.

How do you figure that? Insurance companies are not the goverment. Many of them own the largest banks in the world and are only resposible to their shareholders......hence the problem. Is your father and grandfather turning down his SS check because its socialism? Those same claims are being made now on healthcare......the future is coming.

Kazan · « **Reply #42 on:** February 03, 2011, 02:01:15 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on February 03, 2011, 01:58:32 PM

so this means that anytime a politician votes against a bill they are against the ENTIRE BILL?

great fuking logic moron...

The simple fact is they the dems even with a majority had to lie, cheat, and steal to get this thing passed. We need to pass the bill to see whats in it

How can anyone in their right mind think this cluster fuck is in the best interest of the average american.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #43 on:** February 03, 2011, 02:01:26 PM »

Quote from: James on February 03, 2011, 01:57:53 PM

You mean like how Obama said that his Health care Bill would reduce premiums, and yet I am paying more than before it was passed?

or maybe you mean like the fact that now in 34 Sates, you can no longer get a Child Only Policy because of Omamacare?

or maybe you mean like the additional medicaid cost to the States, that will be passed onto me ?

I really don't think if anyone tried, they could coe up with a worse piece of trash than bamacare.

War-Horse · « **Reply #44 on:** February 03, 2011, 02:02:45 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on February 03, 2011, 01:58:32 PM

so this means that anytime a politician votes against a bill they are against the ENTIRE BILL?

great fuking logic moron...

Oh geez. The bill is to repeal the whole thing...not disect it.

Kazan · « **Reply #45 on:** February 03, 2011, 02:04:35 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on February 03, 2011, 02:01:05 PM

How do you figure that? Insurance companies are not the goverment. Many of them own the largest banks in the world and are only resposible to their shareholders......hence the problem. Is your father and grandfather turning down his SS check because its socialism? Those same claims are being made now on healthcare......the future is coming.

Because the government uses the commerce clause to setup a monopoly for them, it's not that hard to grasp. The insurance companies have a very powerful lobby, and they get what they want. Why would they be against this? They are going to get what 35 million new customers?

Kazan · « **Reply #46 on:** February 03, 2011, 02:05:24 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on February 03, 2011, 02:02:45 PM

Oh geez. The bill is to repeal the whole thing...not disect it.

Maybe because without the mandate the whole thing falls apart

tonymctones · « **Reply #47 on:** February 03, 2011, 02:05:29 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on February 03, 2011, 02:02:45 PM

Oh geez. The bill is to repeal the whole thing...not disect it.

agreed, does that mean that the dems that voted for the bill support everything in it?

i mean the reps apparently hate everything in the bill

fuking idiot

James · « **Reply #48 on:** February 03, 2011, 02:06:12 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on February 03, 2011, 02:02:45 PM

Oh geez. The bill is to repeal the whole thing...not disect it.

The entire Bill was ruled Unconstitutional by a federal Judge.

But don't let that stand int the way.....

War-Horse · « **Reply #49 on:** February 03, 2011, 02:08:30 PM »

Quote from: James on February 03, 2011, 02:06:12 PM

The entire Bill was ruled Unconstitutional by a federal Judge.

But don't let that stand int the way.....

So was the patriot act. who cares? Any solutions or just more whining?