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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2011, 09:36:43 AM »
Lets do the math here.

7K - 8 years = $875 per year.

Couple of the shops were vacant - come on man be as right wing as you want you have to agree the sentence is incredible stupid, given that she pretty much
destroyed his live.
7k x20 since 95 percent of these crimes go unpunished is 140k, nore than this sack of shit can save in 8 years.

Not that I believe in prisons there a waste of money. You can't make it anything but pleasant as that would be torture, so basically people are sent to prison until they get bored with committing crimes. This has been proven to work of course if someone goes to prisons for years they do eventually get bored with the legal system and get good.

Labour camps/solitary confinement should be the only prison system.

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2011, 09:43:14 AM »
Labour camps/solitary confinement should be the only prison system.


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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2011, 09:45:54 AM »

dude why should we spend like 100k a year per prisoner, let them pay there own fucking way, why the fuck should we be payind money out of our fucking pockets, just so a sack of shit can be rehabilitated( sit on there ass until they possible get bored of crime.)
They should atleast cover there own ass like everyone else.


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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2011, 09:48:15 AM »
7k x20 since 95 percent of these crimes go unpunished is 140k, nore than this sack of shit can save in 8 years.

Not that I believe in prisons there a waste of money. You can't make it anything but pleasant as that would be torture, so basically people are sent to prison until they get bored with committing crimes. This has been proven to work of course if someone goes to prisons for years they do eventually get bored with the legal system and get good.

Labour camps/solitary confinement should be the only prison system.

I dont understand your calculation, so he is paying for all the other idiots that are not caught? even if he only created damages of 7k?

Lol thats as ridicules as your preventive detention (you can lock somebody up if its proven he was thinking to commit a crime)

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2011, 09:49:11 AM »
So if on average I can steal 20 times before getting caught, each time a theft of 7k, I can steel 140k several years salary, and my only fear is getting sent to 12 months in prison ??? Still making about 300 bucks a day to sit on my hands and do nothing.

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2011, 09:52:04 AM »
I dont understand your calculation, so he is paying for all the other idiots that are not caught? even if he only created damages of 7k?

Lol thats as ridicules as your preventive detention (you can lock somebody up if its proven he was thinking to commit a crime)
strongly against preventive detention.

If crime is a business  you are liable for the damages your business have caused on the state.
This is the whole fucking problem if crimes pays which in many situations it does, there's absolutely no deterrent.

Basically as long you make more money than you would without the risk of incarceration.

The is the whole problem with  the prison state crime does pay.

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2011, 09:53:29 AM »
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't the taxpayers in the US pay for the prisoners expenses but the private prisons themselves make money on them?
look up industrial prison complex.  or some shit like that.

Basically everyone makes money in the system, except for the person being robbed and the tax payer, prisons are a massive waste of fucking money, and serve no purpose and they dehabilitate more than opposite.

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2011, 09:57:31 AM »
chances are he will come out a better person after he has been forced to traffic cigarettes and drugs in the pen so he
doesn't end up being sexually abused ::)



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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2011, 09:58:37 AM »
Ha,fantastic...not one American in this thread...just a bunch of Euro's telling us how to run our country ;D

Yup.  Swede sitting around searching the internet for more isolated incidents to project onto an entire country.  Move along, nothing to see here.
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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2011, 09:59:52 AM »
Disgusting.  The punishment does not fit the crime.  Make him clean it up, give him 30 days in jail and have him do something in the community.  What a waste, this boy will come out hating the system and a hardened criminal all for 7k worth of damage. 
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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2011, 10:01:31 AM »
Disgusting.  The punishment does not fit the crime.  Make him clean it up, give him 30 days in jail and have him do something in the community.  What a waste, this boy will come out hating the system and a hardened criminal all for 7k worth of damage.  
So if he stole 7k worth of property would it make a difference?

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2011, 10:02:27 AM »
Ha,fantastic...not one American in this thread...just a bunch of Euro's telling us how to run our country ;D

As opposed to Americans telling everyone else how to run their countries?

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2011, 10:11:59 AM »
Settle down, homos.

No need to show your panties with your outrage.  ::)

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2011, 10:15:04 AM »


incredible.

Why not fine him for the damanges and have him clean the shit up?

or one year if you REALLY wanna push it with parole after 8 months or something. Fucking hell.

Women shouldnt be judges angry ass girls. her house probably got "tagged" once upon a time.

If this happened in my country he would get a fine, do some community service or maybe just one of the two and thats it. 8 years for tagging, fucking hell thats some serious shit! I mean rapists in my country doesnt even serve that long, lol... Tragic system. Kid was stupid though. You NEVER EVER confess! Coming from a retired graffiti artist that almost got caught one too many times... ;D

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2011, 10:26:32 AM »
God bless America ::)
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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2011, 10:28:30 AM »
They should have just shot him.  cheaper.

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2011, 10:38:35 AM »
They should have just shot him.  cheaper.

Or converted him to Islam first, so they could use stones and save a bullet ;D

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2011, 10:40:12 AM »
Or converted him to Islam first, so they could use stones and save a bullet ;D


LOL, you are on to something there.....plus stoning would have to be a lot more fun for the executioner.....  PPV here we come !!

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2011, 10:46:36 AM »
my americana thread of the day tomorrow will include Why americans are so obsessed with what area code thery're from ans east coast vs west and this vs that and 0498509 vs 34094583 and 098 vs 0987 and whatever.  ;D

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2011, 12:47:57 PM »
I rarely post on here but that is fckd up.
The fat officer at the end talking about the hard work they had done
TO CATCH A DAMN SPRAY PAINTER!
No damn compassion..8 years - there should be an outrage from the city.
He's a dumbass kid; but not a criminal.
I sometimes think some people in law enforcement/judges like that
are just as sociopathic as the people in prison.
Both of them didn't look like they had a empathatic bone in their body.
8 fckn years for graffiti.
No thought from those two about what this kid will suffer in prison.
Let the punishment fit the crime.
I'm not a violent person at all but if I did 8 years for that
I would be looking for revenge after that verdict.   

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2011, 12:50:01 PM »
I'm not watching that shit, but did he have a prior record?  I highly doubt that if it was his 1st offense he got 8 yrs for it.... oh well, he wasn't going to do anything of note in his life anyway....

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2011, 01:01:26 PM »
     Sure,,that 8 years sounds hash but that tagging shit just ruins a town or city...Vegas is a prime example...its everywhere. Maybe the next fuck will think twice. I think the mayor had the right idea...a few years ago he suggested that convicted taggers have their index finger cut..sounds good to me. We could give them a choice...prison or the finger  ;D
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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2011, 01:03:36 PM »
cue the americanos that doesnt see an issue at All in this. 18 yr olds do stupid shit, everyone does at one point ar another.. crazy. I would beat the shit out of the judge and her entire fucking family when I got out. Then hunt down the fuckler that bragged about the police doing a good job. what the hell.
One, Its Corpus Christie, TX...Texas doesn't play. Two, he may have gang affiliations, both he and the Judge are Latino, she wants to come across hard. Three, dude can always appeal to a higher court. It ain't the end of the world. Four, you'd do no such thing Swede, chances are you'd be shot by the judge herself. As I said before, it's Texas, they don't play down there. And they have executed more deathrow inmates than any state. Five, we don't know what the max penalty and fine for tagging (graffiti) and for the amount of damages ($7,000) is. It could be for a certain amount over or under is X number of yrs. In the state of Maryland, a simple assault (like a fight) carries a max of 10 yrs or $2,500. I don't know how many get the 10 yrs, but I know it is a very, very, very small number.

With that being said, 8 yrs is a tad harsh, and he probably will appeal it.

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2011, 01:04:01 PM »
More proof the LAW in the U.S is one big fuckin joke.

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Re: Only in America. 8 years for graffiti. No probation.
« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2011, 01:11:58 PM »
So if he stole 7k worth of property would it make a difference?

Dude you're an idiot troll with no life.  GTFO.
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