stavios update 18 weeks out from his show

[local hero]

yeh i think so, i could never get hold of it

[DK II]

"Helios" maybe?

That stuff was famous on Germany as well, though i think it somehow vanished from the scene very fast.

[Meso_z]

That stuff was famous on Germany as well, though i think it somehow vanished from the scene very fast.

Wasnt that actually an "injectable" blend of various cheap fatburning compounds? I think it had clen plus some other stuff.

[DK II]

Wasnt that actually an "injectable" blend of various cheap fatburning compounds? I think it had clen plus some other stuff.

I don't know what it was, all i know is that it send a mod forma German steroid board into hospital, LOL.

[Stavios]

update: looking crazy today altought a bit flat, I'll post pics in 4 weeks maybe.

after an arm workout with the arms pumped, I actually look like a pretty good bodybuilder  

time to get shredded, I have 8 more weeks to get my skin paper thin

4 weeks out I up the carbs, add anadrolona, and boom = contest winning physique (ok maybe not the show I will do is tough, but I will hold my own  )

[tbombz]

also,, the brit guys used to bang on about a compound you could inject into fat stores,, cant remember the propper name for it tho as ive never used it?

pgcl or helios

pgcl is hell on earth but it works pretty good

helios doesnt work that great but its painless with no side effects

[flexingtonsteele]

update: looking crazy today altought a bit flat, I'll post pics in 4 weeks maybe.

after an arm workout with the arms pumped, I actually look like a pretty good bodybuilder 

time to get shredded, I have 8 more weeks to get my skin paper thin

4 weeks out I up the carbs, add anadrolona, and boom = contest winning physique (ok maybe not the show I will do is tough, but I will hold my own  )

im predicting we're gonna have another antoine valiant out of quebec pretty soon here!

[tbombz]

Wasnt that actually an "injectable" blend of various cheap fatburning compounds? I think it had clen plus some other stuff.

helios is clen and yohimbine

[buselmo]

update: looking crazy today altought a bit flat, I'll post pics in 4 weeks maybe.

after an arm workout with the arms pumped, I actually look like a pretty good bodybuilder  

time to get shredded, I have 8 more weeks to get my skin paper thin

4 weeks out I up the carbs, add anadrolona, and boom = contest winning physique (ok maybe not the show I will do is tough, but I will hold my own  )

before you add the carbs, what weight do you expect to be, and will you be at the top of a weight class or bottom at that weight?

I say this because if you get up there and you're shredded, you'll look bigger... maybe flat, but remember, a lot of people don't pump up like they should before going up on stage. if you up the carbs and you 'puff up', trust me, you won't win shit.

you're like me, right? most of the fat and the last to go (also almost all your water weight) is in your lower back... right?
you will look great from the front if you're full, but from the back, water will build up in your lower back and it'll make you look fat and shitty... and to compensate, you'll think that using more diuretics will get rid of the water... it will, but then you'll look like you're battling the infamous "stomach bug" that competitors get all the time  ... basically you'll be flat and fat.

go in shredded... leave puffing up for after the contest.

[Schmoe Buster]

im predicting we're gonna have another antoine valiant out of quebec pretty soon here!

I agree

[Schmoe Buster]

before you add the carbs, what weight do you expect to be, and will you be at the top of a weight class or bottom at that weight?

I say this because if you get up there and you're shredded, you'll look bigger... maybe flat, but remember, a lot of people don't pump up like they should before going up on stage. if you up the carbs and you 'puff up', trust me, you won't win shit.

you're like me, right? most of the fat and the last to go (also almost all your water weight) is in your lower back... right?
you will look great from the front if you're full, but from the back, water will build up in your lower back and it'll make you look fat and shitty... and to compensate, you'll think that using more diuretics will get rid of the water... it will, but then you'll look like you're battling the infamous "stomach bug" that competitors get all the time  ... basically you'll be flat and fat.

go in shredded... leave puffing up for after the contest.

Spot on advice right there, ive made those mistakes too many times, but not next time

[Stavios]

before you add the carbs, what weight do you expect to be, and will you be at the top of a weight class or bottom at that weight?

I say this because if you get up there and you're shredded, you'll look bigger... maybe flat, but remember, a lot of people don't pump up like they should before going up on stage. if you up the carbs and you 'puff up', trust me, you won't win shit.

you're like me, right? most of the fat and the last to go (also almost all your water weight) is in your lower back... right?
you will look great from the front if you're full, but from the back, water will build up in your lower back and it'll make you look fat and shitty... and to compensate, you'll think that using more diuretics will get rid of the water... it will, but then you'll look like you're battling the infamous "stomach bug" that competitors get all the time  ... basically you'll be flat and fat.

go in shredded... leave puffing up for after the contest.

right now I am 197 in the morning after a few days of "not cheating", when I cheat I get up to 205-206

I think I need to go down to 187-188 to look REALLY ripped.

I am talking crazy ripped here, I don't want to be "contest" ready

I want to me fucking nasty.

but I agree with you, I won't carb uop that much especially not before the show, just to get some fullness back to 190-192  and stay there

my back has never had much separation on stage because I didn'T diet hhard enough, usually when I look ready from the front I still look off-season from the back haha

[Schmoe Buster]

right now I am 197 in the morning after a few days of "not cheating", when I cheat I get up to 205-206

I think I need to go down to 187-188 to look REALLY ripped.

I am talking crazy ripped here, I don't want to be "contest" ready

I want to me fucking nasty.

but I agree with you, I won't carb uop that much especially not before the show, just to get some fullness back to 190-192  and stay there

my back has never had much separation on stage because I didn'T diet hhard enough, usually when I look ready from the front I still look off-season from the back haha

How tall are you Stav?

[Stavios]

How tall are you Stav?

between 5'10 1/2 and 5'11 ! haven't mesure myself in a while

(yes I am light for my height)

[Schmoe Buster]

between 5'10 1/2 and 5'11 ! haven't mesure myself in a while

(yes I am light for my height)

We are pretty much the same height, im 225lbs now, about 7% bf, im trying to get that dry ripped middle eastern look too, ive got 12 wees until my contest im also doing Tren and EQ now

[Stavios]

We are pretty much the same height, im 225lbs now, about 7% bf, im trying to get that dry ripped middle eastern look too, ive got 12 wees until my contest im also doing Tren and EQ now

you are fucking huge 

[Schmoe Buster]

you are fucking huge 

i wish, i feel like a skinny twink

i always fuck up prepping for contests because i let my mind play tricks on me

[Rearden Metal]

i wish, i feel like a skinny twink

i always fuck up prepping for contests because i let my mind play tricks on me

EVERYfuckingbody does this. Doesn't matter how jacked you are, when you're shredded you always feel like a twink.

Can't wait to see your pics this year Stavios, you're gonna look awesome

[Stavios]

EVERYfuckingbody does this. Doesn't matter how jacked you are, when you're shredded you always feel like a twink.

Can't wait to see your pics this year Stavios, you're gonna look awesome

thanks man, I'll post some when I feel I look good enough

I am vascular for the first time in my life, don't know how come. I feel the gh blast I ran have something to do with it

[Rearden Metal]

thanks man, I'll post some when I feel I look good enough

I am vascular for the first time in my life, don't know how come. I feel the gh blast I ran have something to do with it

Hopefully I can do that myself pretty soon. I've moderately dieted for 10 weeks... the last 6 weeks my weight remains the same but I keep getting harder and fuller. Just Sust, EQ and Deca right now. Once I'm 9% (prob 11 now) I'll throw in tren and hopefully gh for the last 5 months.

5'3", 205, 11% right now. Want to be top of middleweights in October and blow through my class. I'm training the guy who's gonna win the LHW's and I intend on beating him, too 

[Stavios]

Hopefully I can do that myself pretty soon. I've moderately dieted for 10 weeks... the last 6 weeks my weight remains the same but I keep getting harder and fuller. Just Sust, EQ and Deca right now. Once I'm 9% (prob 11 now) I'll throw in tren and hopefully gh for the last 5 months.

5'3", 205, 11% right now. Want to be top of middleweights in October and blow through my class. I'm training the guy who's gonna win the LHW's and I intend on beating him, too 

you will destroy the tiny tits man 

[bladerunner]

i wish, i feel like a skinny twink

i always fuck up prepping for contests because i let my mind play tricks on me

i agree...you are a (massive) skinny twink
 

[Schmoe Buster]

i agree...you are a (massive) skinny twink
 

skinny fat twink, get it right

[Stavios]

Alright so since last week I train my quads (and hams indirectly) monday evening, hams wednesday evening (and quads indirectly), and saturday morning I also do legs but some sorts of giant sets and squats and leg presses with frog position for the inner tighs.


maybe that's a but much because my legs looked small this morning, but yesterday was my super low carb day also so I might just be a bit flat.

I might cut out the satuday morning leg workout and train something else instead because next week I will start walking 30 minute incline at medium intensity (not fast enough to jog), and I don't think my quads will handle cardio + 3 leg workouts per week.


maybe if my legs were my strong point but they are one muscle that always shrink a lot while dieting, even if they get quite good sized in the off-season

I was kind of disapointed to see them lose their fullness when I started dieted down in the fall 

[Stavios]

legs do feel a bit "tired" too but not that much either