trenbalona sides- spike/GH/van/will grant/stav etc

[no one]

love this stuff. can't handle the bad mood I'm in for the whole time I'm on it. anyone know go to offset this? I have 10 weeks of it coming up and am seriously thinking of not even running it cause it affects me so negatively mentally.

[LatsMcGee]

Pork as many broads as possible,  that's the only thing that will mellow you out on that shit.....

[Schmoe Buster]

Pork as many broads as possible,  that's the only thing that will mellow you out on that shit.....

X2, plus go balls to the wall in the gym to take out all your aggression

[Emmortal]

love this stuff. can't handle the bad mood I'm in for the whole time I'm on it. anyone know go to offset this? I have 10 weeks of it coming up and am seriously thinking of not even running it cause it affects me so negatively mentally.

Are you running Ace or Enan?  If you are doing Ace and injecting EOD, switch it to ED.  I know ED injects are a pain, but it reduced the sides for me tremendously.

[Kim Jong Bob]

ah trenbolon...was my absolut favorit steroid when i was a juicehead, loved to shoot it in my biceps but hated the coughs i got 1 out of 3 times i injected it

[no one]

lol @ bang broads.

emmortal- I'm going to use t enanthate.

the physical sides I don't mind. it's the quick temperedness and irritability that I can't handle. I was wondering if st johns wort or 5htp or any kind of OTC supplement would help elevate my mood.

[benchmstr]

why the hell would you use it for 10 weeks? it isnt even designed to be a long term use drug...

just blast it 6 weeks on, 6 weeks off...

bench

[benchmstr]

lol @ bang broads.

emmortal- I'm going to use t enanthate.

the physical sides I don't mind. it's the quick temperedness and irritability that I can't handle. I was wondering if st johns wort or 5htp or any kind of OTC supplement would help elevate my mood.

you might want to try 400-800mg of SAM-e a day...i always did that on tren and it helped..

bench

[Van_Bilderass]

I've had severe anxiety issues so I've stayed away from this compound. I've been thinking of finally giving it a real go this summer. I can handle irritability, feeling a bit down etc, I just don't want the feeling of "the sky is falling down on me". 

Didn't Stav say he's doing a gram a week? Maybe he has a real stable psyche. 

[Meso_z]

The only sides with tren I had were extreme horny, strength and sweating a lot.

[tbombz]

smoke weed


seriously, you wont get any side effects from the juice, except physiologic ones

[Van_Bilderass]

smoke weed


seriously, you wont get any side effects from the juice, except physiologic ones

What if weed itself causes anxiety?

Spike is on Xanax for anxiety he says, and he smokes a lot so....

[tbombz]

What if weed itself causes anxiety?

Spike is on Xanax for anxiety he says, and he smokes a lot so....

then dont smoke weed?

its all the mind/spirit anyways...

[Van_Bilderass]

its all the mind/spirit anyways...

  Of course it is. Reminds me of this joke a friend of mine tells. If someone is feeling down he goes, "don't worry bro, it's all in the head!"

This comment really cheers people up.

[tbombz]

Of course it is. Reminds me of this joke a friend of mine tells. If someone is feeling down he goes, "don't worry bro, it's all in the head!"

This comment really cheers people up.

  its the truth tho. even something as serious as severe depression is all in the head. not to say drugs cant help or there arent physiologic factors/signals coming into play. of course. but one can will themselves out of it. just like one can willthemselves out of anxiety, or any other state of mind. (barring real physical barriers)

[Van_Bilderass]

  its the truth tho. even something as serious as severe depression is all in the head. not to say drugs cant help or there arent physiologic factors/signals coming into play. of course. but one can will themselves out of it. just like one can willthemselves out of anxiety, or any other state of mind. (barring real physical barriers)

I agree, though spiritual issues may be a lot harder to cure than physical imo. So it's not "just" in head, as if it's some easy thing to solve through "willpower". Possible, yes. Easy, no. Or else psych drugs wouldn't have a much higher success rate in psychiatry than therapy etc.

[disco_stu]

  its the truth tho. even something as serious as severe depression is all in the head. not to say drugs cant help or there arent physiologic factors/signals coming into play. of course. but one can will themselves out of it. just like one can willthemselves out of anxiety, or any other state of mind. (barring real physical barriers)

you should be a counselor to many who cant/dont and also to the parents of suiciders...theyd love to hear your scientological point of view on the matter.

translation: you are completely full of shit. dont you think if people could will themselves out, they would?!...and there'd be no such things as antidepressants or imbalances in neurotransmitters?

i think you confuse the fact that depression is a neurological infliction- which is in the head...with psychological thought patterns that arent quite right...both of which can be fatal.

the former requires medical intervention for partial recovery at best.

to simplify it to "thinking their way out of it" is just plain ignorance.

[tbombz]

I agree, though spiritual issues may be a lot harder to cure than physical imo. So it's not "just" in head, as if it's some easy thing to solve through "willpower". Possible, yes. Easy, no. Or else psych drugs wouldn't have a much higher success rate in psychiatry than therapy etc.

oh i dont think its easy. drugs can be a big help and often times without a drug to help most people would never be able to cure themselves. the drugs can push aside physiologic factors and allow the person to see how they should be thinking/feeling if they were mentally/spiritually healthy. once you see how it should be done, its easier to emulate. i use drugs for this purpose. i rarely recreate, i always use drugs as a tool to help me better my way of thinking while im sober. notice the positives, notice the negatives, and incorporate the useful things into my everyday life. some people can will themselves into and out of mental states with no drugs at all though. william james willed himself out of severe depression back in the 1800's.

[tbombz]

you should be a counselor to many who cant/dont and also to the parents of suiciders...theyd love to hear your scientological point of view on the matter.

translation: you are completely full of shit. dont you think if people could will themselves out, they would?!...and there'd be no such things as antidepressants or imbalances in neurotransmitters?

i think you confuse the fact that depression is a neurological infliction- which is in the head...with psychological thought patterns that arent quite right...both of which can be fatal.

the former requires medical intervention for partial recovery at best.

to simplify it to "thinking their way out of it" is just plain ignorance.

show me a neuron, or any neuron pathway, or any neurtransmitter levels/patterns that represent thought.

neurons and neuron activity (action potential->neurotransmitter release->action potential-> neurotransmitter release..ect ect ect)

are representations of out thoughts. they influence our minds but our minds influece them. its a back and forth. we are not simply our brains, and our brains are not simply us.

[pellius]

love this stuff. can't handle the bad mood I'm in for the whole time I'm on it. anyone know go to offset this? I have 10 weeks of it coming up and am seriously thinking of not even running it cause it affects me so negatively mentally.

Brah, you're a bodybuilder. It's not about how you feel but how you look.
Everyone wants to be a bodybuilder but no one wants to die at fifty.

[g101]

haha thats a good one

[no one]

Brah, you're a bodybuilder. It's not about how you feel but how you look.
Everyone wants to be a bodybuilder but no one wants to die at fifty.

LOL

[no one]

why the hell would you use it for 10 weeks? it isnt even designed to be a long term use drug...

just blast it 6 weeks on, 6 weeks off...

bench

i feel it just starting to really work around week 3. around week 6 im just starting to peak on it. that peak for me usually lasts another 2-3 weeks or so, then it diminishes at the dose i run.

[no one]

you might want to try 400-800mg of SAM-e a day...i always did that on tren and it helped..

bench

i'll try it.

[no one]

I've had severe anxiety issues so I've stayed away from this compound. I've been thinking of finally giving it a real go this summer. I can handle irritability, feeling a bit down etc, I just don't want the feeling of "the sky is falling down on me". 

Didn't Stav say he's doing a gram a week? Maybe he has a real stable psyche. 

i dunno how anyone would run a g. i run 7 and im like NASSSSSTY. lol

i dont get the anxiety- its funny how the same compound can bring out so many different sides in so many different people the way tren does.