Author Topic: The truth about protien, natural vs. juiced (Read 22723 times)

FREAKgeek · « **Reply #50 on:** March 07, 2011, 04:11:31 PM »

Quote from: gh15 on March 07, 2011, 05:06:51 AM

TRENBOLONA

GH

TESTOSTERONA

growth hormona

che · « **Reply #51 on:** March 07, 2011, 04:15:04 PM »

Quote from: Xerxes on March 07, 2011, 04:13:32 PM

I like the simplicity in that,

how many meals a day do you eat?

Usually 5 , 6 if I want to gain weight

Firemuscle · « **Reply #52 on:** March 07, 2011, 04:16:29 PM »

Quote from: che on March 07, 2011, 04:15:04 PM

Usually 5 , 6 if I want to gain weight

How old are you man?

That Jerry Curl picture of you looked like it must have been from the 80's. Are you like 50 years old?

che · « **Reply #53 on:** March 07, 2011, 04:18:29 PM »

Quote from: BlackFlagRedStar on March 07, 2011, 04:16:29 PM

How old are you man?

That Jerry Curl picture of you looked like it must have been from the 80's. Are you like 50 years old?

I just turned 61

tbombz · « **Reply #54 on:** March 07, 2011, 04:20:54 PM »

Quote from: che on March 07, 2011, 04:08:43 PM

30-40 grams w/each meal works for me , add carbs for gaining weight ,drop carbs for losing weight.

exactly.. i eat 40-50 grams per meal, but only eat every 4-5 hours. i eat carbs after my workouts.

dj181 · « **Reply #55 on:** March 07, 2011, 04:21:06 PM »

Not exactly, coz you see fatpanda was only "blah-blah-blah" with ZERO results to show for his efforts. I will back what I say with visual proof, and it will happen VERY QUICKLY (at least the 1st phase will, my shredding phase). I'm absolutly certain that I will hit sub-7 within a 4 week time frame. It is a done deal. But the 2nd phase, spot gaining in my arms while staying relatively lean, not going above 10% is gonna be more tricky, and it will be a learning experience for me.

pedro01 · « **Reply #56 on:** March 07, 2011, 05:15:37 PM »

Quote from: buselmo on March 07, 2011, 01:26:29 AM

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

LOL - I was gonna quote those exact same words.

Shawarma....

gh15 · « **Reply #57 on:** March 07, 2011, 07:15:51 PM »

and i garentee you that even on shawarma ! ,,if take enoguh legit trenbolona every day in the 100s of mgs....you will get to where the best are and it si competetive stage,,so shawarma or not shwarma the key point is legit trenbolona that is taken every day for long time,,

gh15 approved

slacker · « **Reply #58 on:** March 07, 2011, 07:19:19 PM »

30 years ago no one was useing supps. it was all good food and juice. the end. I eat lean meat daily watch my carb intake and try to eat clean. Sitting at 275 @ 12bf not bad for a on again off again lifter

pellius · « **Reply #59 on:** March 07, 2011, 07:36:00 PM »

Quote from: che on March 07, 2011, 04:18:29 PM

I just turned 61

How come your pics never come out?

BILL ANVIL · « **Reply #60 on:** March 07, 2011, 07:39:05 PM »

Quote from: local hero on March 07, 2011, 11:19:51 AM

id like to see pics of some of the twinks claiming they made gains on 3 meals per day, with next to no protein,, utter rubbish

natty or juiced you need to eat like a bodybuilder if you want to look like one, it isnt rocket science, i dont agree with the daft excessive amounts dante and others preach, but for fucks sake get a grip, you do need extra cals and protein above average at least

Well mass does comes out of thin air you know

slacker · « **Reply #61 on:** March 07, 2011, 08:10:00 PM »

Quote from: pellius on March 07, 2011, 07:36:00 PM

How come your pics never come out?

hey bro Just post ppics of your kick ass carcass Your an inspiration to anyone who lives the lifestyle of a BB

basil · « **Reply #62 on:** March 08, 2011, 12:55:26 AM »

Quote from: local hero on March 07, 2011, 11:19:51 AM

id like to see pics of some of the twinks claiming they made gains on 3 meals per day, with next to no protein,, utter rubbish

natty or juiced you need to eat like a bodybuilder if you want to look like one, it isnt rocket science, i dont agree with the daft excessive amounts dante and others preach, but for fucks sake get a grip, you do need extra cals and protein above average at least

~1 meal right here:

GroinkTropin · « **Reply #63 on:** March 08, 2011, 01:42:50 AM »

Quote from: gh15 on March 06, 2011, 11:02:53 PM

only when horminized friend,,only when hormonized,,for natural it wont matter and wont make slight difference ,,i trained much better talented fellas than you ,,italian stalions,,still coudnt break 180 9% with out halodrol steroid product or something of the such,,they were just 180 9-10% all of them ,,,5'9 5'10 ,,they just couldnt get past 180 185 10percent with out the use of hormones,,so many and way more gifted than youll ever be ,,they had not the middle east shawarma genetic but they had italian solid dry and lean genetic with not much water held and very little fat,,and even they couldnt get pas 180 9% and 5;10!!! ,,not possible for natural,,and they ate all the kitchen upside down and guess what...they shitted is in the morning 6 times before they even yawned!

dont lie to those fellas,,your need to hide the truth is understood but its real bad when you choose to do this,,they need to knwo the truth,,they need to know that the only way to look like you offseason or competition atleast from picture i see is to do somewhat of hormoniaition ,,doesnt have to be mega dose or anything but some hormonization and yes PRO HORMONE HALODROL AND SUPERDROL = PURE STEROIDS 2 OF THE STRONGEST ONES..anyone who eat 400gram protien a day as true natural will sit in restroom with big big diareah ,,and also will have problem with digestive system on regular basis from farts to other comlications ,,human body doesnt want it naturally even on hormones no need for more than 2gram per pound of lean muscle unless on mega doses of hgh then its little different

and what you use dont call pro hormones ,,it is the market name for them but the real name is DEISGNER STEROIDS WHICH IS LEGAL TERM FOR ANABOLIC STEROIDS THAT HASNT BEEN BANNED BUT LATEER ON DID ,,HARSHEST AND STRONGEST SHIT IN ORAL DEPARTMENT ,,BUT you used more than that

gh15 approved

You are way off. I am a smidgen over 200lbs right now and no more than 8% bodyfat at 5ft9.5 (yeah the half inch counts fuckers!) and i am not hormonized in the least. Hell I have barely worked out the last couple weeks because of school.

Maybe you aren't reading the scale right.

gh15 · « **Reply #64 on:** March 08, 2011, 02:12:49 AM »

Quote from: Methyl Mike on March 08, 2011, 01:42:50 AM

You are way off. I am a smidgen over 200lbs right now and no more than 8% bodyfat at 5ft9.5 (yeah the half inch counts fuckers!) and i am not hormonized in the least. Hell I have barely worked out the last couple weeks because of school.
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Maybe you aren't reading the scale right.

ofcourse you are,,

i told you again and again again and again ,,there is no natural that EVER was even 190lb 6% ,,naturals limits stand 180lb 8-10% and 5'10,,for you you would be lucky if you touched 180 8% naturally more likely 177-178 8% naturally,,anything over that will be as result of hormones wether orals injects gh anything above that is hormone related ,,and if you get the 3 lb from the stupoid creatine and see 184 for few days,,it will go momnet you are off the creatine,,its just water around stomack and with some people aroudn all over ,,but the limit i put to natural is writen in stone,,NEVER EVER WAS A NATURAL TRUE NATURAL WALKING AROUND 200LB 8% THIS IS HORMONIZED NUMBER! 200-210 TRUE 8% IS HORMONIZED NUMBER BIG TIME! it is just usualy very low gh and no insulina,,sometime can get ther ewith out gh but need to be younger fella in early 20s to mdi 20s ,,later on 200lb mid singles can only come with gh and steroid combo ,,and for 220 and up in single digit you will need insulina on constant basis every single day many times a day with trenbolona and the rest of the shit that got you to 200lb 8% to begin with,,

numbers you presented before god are NOT natural

gh15 approved

Tito24 · « **Reply #65 on:** March 08, 2011, 03:12:23 AM »

spude · « **Reply #66 on:** March 08, 2011, 03:13:38 AM »

Quote from: gh15 on March 07, 2011, 07:15:51 PM

and i garentee you that even on shawarma ! ,,if take enoguh legit trenbolona every day in the 100s of mgs....you will get to where the best are and it si competetive stage,,so shawarma or not shwarma the key point is legit trenbolona that is taken every day for long time,,

gh15 approved

gh15, earlier you said trenbolona should be used on/off in bursts when testosterona, equipona and of course ghona would be used every week year round. Why the sudden change? Talk about this dear God of Hormones, please

dj181 · « **Reply #67 on:** March 08, 2011, 03:14:13 AM »

Dear God, should I drop my creatine use during the 3rd phase of my 3 phase project? You see, during the 3rd Phase I will be going for a finished and refined look with the goal of creating as much seperation and detail as possible. Also, please check my starting ab photos which I will post by the end of the week, to give me a true and accurate measure of my starting level of bodyfat. Remember, I'm gonna lose fat, and lose it VERY FAST

P.S. You put me at sub-6 when you saw my peak photo, just to refresh your memory

Krankenstein · « **Reply #68 on:** March 08, 2011, 05:05:21 AM »

Quote from: Methyl Mike on March 08, 2011, 01:42:50 AM

You are way off. I am a smidgen over 200lbs right now and no more than 8% bodyfat at 5ft9.5 (yeah the half inch counts fuckers!) and i am not hormonized in the least. Hell I have barely worked out the last couple weeks because of school.

Maybe you aren't reading the scale right.

Dont bother....the mispelling fuckwad cant handle it when people have done what he hasnt or could never do. I competed at 188 - 190....was drug free up until december....yet this "IFBB pro

" is telling me what I did or didnt do in my life. His jealous burns inside more than the rapid stretching of his anus when a schmoe pile drives him bareback with no lube.

SweetMuscles · « **Reply #69 on:** March 08, 2011, 05:14:31 AM »

Who are the main persons and organizations producing very few "studies" and mostly anecdotal "evidence" perpetuating the importance of ridiculously huge amounts of protein for bodybuilders? The billion dollar supplement industry.

TommyBoy · « **Reply #70 on:** March 08, 2011, 10:01:39 AM »

Quote from: che on March 07, 2011, 04:08:43 PM

30-40 grams w/each meal works for me , add carbs for gaining weight ,drop carbs for losing weight.

Oh hey someone else that does the same as I do. Per numbers it really really is that simple guys.

buselmo · « **Reply #71 on:** March 08, 2011, 09:45:46 PM »

Quote from: gh15 on March 07, 2011, 07:15:51 PM

and i garentee you that even on shawarma ! ,,if take enoguh legit trenbolona every day in the 100s of mgs....you will get to where the best are and it si competetive stage,,so shawarma or not shwarma the key point is legit trenbolona that is taken every day for long time,,

gh15 approved

100% correct!!!

i met a guy (before i started bodybuilding).... dude was fucking retardedly huge and ripped... he never liked competing or the idea of it... i was talking to him and i was amazed at how fucking big he was (never saw someone that big in front of me ever!... again, this was before i ever lifted a weight, and i was a skinny fat 135 lbs guy)... after talking to the dude for 5 minutes, i realized he had the IQ level of a rock... hell, a rock would score higher... but when i asked him what the fuck he did to get big he said "look... for breakfast i eat 3 plates of fool and 6 bread pitas (fool is kinda like squished beans), and for lunch i eat 5 or 6 falafil sandwiches... for dinner i eat around 6 or 7 shawarmas"....

after he left, our mutual friend tapped my shoulder and whispered "he forgot to mention that he's a walking pharmacy... dudes house looks like a needle disposal bin"...

BIG ACH · « **Reply #72 on:** March 08, 2011, 09:58:57 PM »

Quote from: buselmo on March 08, 2011, 09:45:46 PM

100% correct!!!

i met a guy (before i started bodybuilding).... dude was fucking retardedly huge and ripped... he never liked competing or the idea of it... i was talking to him and i was amazed at how fucking big he was (never saw someone that big in front of me ever!... again, this was before i ever lifted a weight, and i was a skinny fat 135 lbs guy)... after talking to the dude for 5 minutes, i realized he had the IQ level of a rock... hell, a rock would score higher... but when i asked him what the fuck he did to get big he said "look... for breakfast i eat 3 plates of fool and 6 bread pitas (fool is kinda like squished beans), and for lunch i eat 5 or 6 falafil sandwiches... for dinner i eat around 6 or 7 shawarmas"....

after he left, our mutual friend tapped my shoulder and whispered "he forgot to mention that he's a walking pharmacy... dudes house looks like a needle disposal bin"...

A Fool sandwich is like the national food of Egypt.... Its equivelant to Hamburgers in America. Basically they are squished Fava Beans.... Very high in protein and naturally raises tesotsterone! Just a little fact for you lol

Now I'm craving Fool and Shawarma!

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #73 on:** March 08, 2011, 10:07:10 PM »

Quote from: BIG ACH on March 08, 2011, 09:58:57 PM

A Fool sandwich is like the national food of Egypt.... Its equivelant to Hamburgers in America. Basically they are squished Fava Beans.... Very high in protein and naturally raises tesotsterone! Just a little fact for you lol

Now I'm craving Fool and Shawarma!

I want some shawarma, sounds very anabolic

KevinP85 · « **Reply #74 on:** March 08, 2011, 10:52:56 PM »

Quote from: Krankenstein on March 08, 2011, 05:05:21 AM

Dont bother....the mispelling fuckwad cant handle it when people have done what he hasnt or could never do. I competed at 188 - 190....was drug free up until december....yet this "IFBB pro " is telling me what I did or didnt do in my life. His jealous burns inside more than the rapid stretching of his anus when a schmoe pile drives him bareback with no lube.

Tell me your secret cause with genetics like yours and now on the juice we're looking at possibly the best 202 bber in the world. Quite possibly top 5 in the open class.