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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2011, 12:12:14 PM »
Carter did the will of ihs handlers, too.

And the Bushes, the Clintons? you seem to conveniently IGNORE that reality.
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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2011, 12:12:53 PM »
The only possible thing i see bama doing with a second term is packing the court with two more freaks on the SC.    Other than that, what will he possibly do? 

Deficit reduction?  He already deep 6'ed his own deficit commission plan. 

Cap & Trade ?  DOA 

Jobs?  Maybe if the private sector comes back cuz they realize he is done. 

Health Care?   LOL.  enough said.   

Foreign Policy?   LOL.   

The USSC thing is enough to make sure we get rid of this bum. How many boneheaded left-winged policies and laws would we have, if Bush hadn't put Roberts and Alito on the Supreme Court in 2005?

That's what the left is dying to have, a conservative justice croak or step down (ala Sandra Day O'Connor), allowing Obama to tip the court in their favor.

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2011, 12:14:33 PM »
And the Bushes, the Clintons? you seem to conveniently IGNORE that reality.

And you seem to conveniently ignore THE POINT. Following your handlers DOES NOT equal getting re-elected. Carter and Bush I followed their handlers but got beat up, running for re-election.

Clinton and Bush II followed their handlers and SUCCESSFULLY got re-elected.

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2011, 12:16:17 PM »
Again, it's to keep the goofs in Mass. from defining marriage for other states like my home (Florida). This is why Mitt Romney, when he was governor of Mass., enforced a state law that kept out-of-state homosexuals from getting marriage licenses in Mass. and returning to their states, demanding that their licenses be validated.



Just because Mass wants to have gay marriage doesn't mean the other 49 states have to respect it, shit let all the gays move to Mass.
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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2011, 12:19:38 PM »

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2011, 12:20:10 PM »
Just because Mass wants to have gay marriage doesn't mean the other 49 states have to respect it, shit let all the gays move to Mass.

That didn't stop all the lawsuits. Fortunately, most of the courts saw DOMA and told the plaintiffs to take a long walk off a short pier.

That's why Obama isn't defending DOMA. If DOMA goes down, he can effectively endorse gay "marriage" (without actually doing so, to save face with his supporters who oppose it) by letting Mass. and the 4 other states that allow it become the Las Vegas of gay "marriage".

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2011, 12:25:06 PM »
IMHO


17% U6 UE
$4.00 gas
350k weekly job losses
$1.65 TRILLION deficit
$14 TRILLION Debt
Rampant Inflation
Foreign Policy a-bombs daily


Should make it that even the Iron Sheik could beat obama in 2012.   

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2011, 12:30:43 PM »
IMHO


17% U6 UE
$4.00 gas
350k weekly job losses
$1.65 TRILLION deficit
$14 TRILLION Debt
Rampant Inflation
Foreign Policy a-bombs daily


Should make it that even the Iron Sheik could beat obama in 2012.   

I wouldn't like Obama's chances against the Red Rooster, either.

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2011, 12:31:18 PM »
That didn't stop all the lawsuits. Fortunately, most of the courts saw DOMA and told the plaintiffs to take a long walk off a short pier.

That's why Obama isn't defending DOMA. If DOMA goes down, he can effectively endorse gay "marriage" (without actually doing so, to save face with his supporters who oppose it) by letting Mass. and the 4 other states that allow it become the Las Vegas of gay "marriage".

most people don't give a shit about gay marriage, especially so when they are more concerned about a roof over their head, food and some kind of stable financial future for themselves and their children


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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2011, 12:33:27 PM »
i like how the repubs give all the reasons why they will win, then they will run some idiot and say why did we lose :D

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2011, 12:34:07 PM »
most people don't give a shit about gay marriage, especially so when they are more concerned about a roof over their head, food and some kind of stable financial future for themselves and their children


So, you emphasize the economic but you DON'T ignore the social stuff, especially since that's what liberals bank on happening. As "Deadfish" would say, you never let a good crisis go to waste.

Notice that, when our economy was much better in 2004, the gay "marriage" advocates got pummeled.


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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2011, 12:34:40 PM »
i like how the repubs give all the reasons why they will win, then they will run some idiot and say why did we lose :D

If the GOP runs an "idiot", it makes it a fair fight.

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2011, 12:35:16 PM »
So, you emphasize the economic but you DON'T ignore the social stuff, especially since that's what liberals bank on happening. As "Deadfish" would say, you never let a good crisis go to waste.

Notice that, when our economy was much better in 2004, the gay "marriage" advocates got pummeled.

brilliant conclusion

I hope the Repubs use that as a talking point

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2011, 12:36:14 PM »
If the GOP runs an "idiot", it makes it a fair fight.

that's good because they have plenty of idiots to choose from

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2011, 12:39:04 PM »
If the GOP runs an "idiot", it makes it a fair fight.
i have a feeling it won't be if but when, i can see a palin on the ticket

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #40 on: March 16, 2011, 12:43:23 PM »
i have a feeling it won't be if but when, i can see a palin on the ticket

If Gas is at $4 a gallon or better
UE at 16% or greater on the U6
350k weekly job losses
Inflation still rampant
Foreign policy failures daily like we are seeing



Palin will be able to easily walk into the WH. 

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #41 on: March 16, 2011, 12:48:55 PM »
that kind of stupid thinking will get you 4 more years of obama :D

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2011, 12:52:40 PM »
that kind of stupid thinking will get you 4 more years of obama :D

Really?   Obama only won by 5.7 points as it was in 2008 in what was a Perfect Storm of events in his favor.  In 2012 - he will not have the benefit of those sam factors.   

Not to mention his horrible record so far on so many issues. 

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2011, 12:59:19 PM »
indepedents won't vote for palin it's that simple

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #44 on: March 16, 2011, 01:02:43 PM »
indepedents won't vote for palin it's that simple

It depends.  Anything can happen.  But I dont think she is running.  She is best as kingmaker and a person to rally the troops.

If anyone like cain, romney, daniels, huntsman get the nod - obama should not even bother.   

I knew he would be horrible and probably the worst of all time, but even he is surprising me just how incompetent, ignorant, inept, and illiterate this admn is on so many issues.     

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2011, 01:07:32 PM »
yea but your veiws might be a little bias ;D

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2011, 01:12:04 PM »
yea but your veiws might be a little bias ;D

Ok - in your own words - please tell me affirmatively why obama deserves a second term.   

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #47 on: March 16, 2011, 01:20:08 PM »
the point is the repubs have to run someone who can beat him not some nut



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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2011, 01:23:06 PM »
So the answer is that you cant point to one thing obama has done to deserve a second term other than how bad you hate palin, who is not even running so far. 

Got it.   

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Re: 2012 will be about Obama
« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2011, 01:29:04 PM »
i can see her in a meeting with world leaders . come to america and pick on me  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D