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Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« on: March 26, 2011, 05:43:24 AM »
The BBC's Ben Brown says the rebels have made gains because of allied air raids

Libyan rebels backed by extensive allied air raids have seized control of the frontline oil town of Ajdabiya from Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's forces.

Insurgents have been celebrating amid the ruins of tanks and artillery pieces left behind after air strikes.

Gaddafi loyalists seized the town last week as they advanced east to quell an uprising which began in mid-February.

A Libyan minister said the army had left the town after the "heavy involvement" of Western forces.

The rebel breakthrough came after a seventh night of bombardment by allies enforcing a UN-mandated no-fly zone.

British RAF Tornado aircraft have been firing Brimstone guided missiles at Col Gaddafi's forces in recent days around Ajdabiya, a town of about 100,000 people.

The BBC's Ben Brown in Ajdabiya says those strikes seemed to be even heavier overnight.

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He counted about two dozen Libyan government tanks, armoured vehicles and artillery pieces which have been either abandoned or destroyed at the eastern gate of the town.

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Ben Brown
 
BBC News, Ajdabiya
 
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We're here by the eastern gate and the rebels have definitely taken that. They're saying they've also taken the western gate and the whole town, which they are combing street by street. Behind us there are jubilant rebels who say they've scored a decisive victory against the Gaddafi forces.

According to the insurgents, the Gaddafi forces have scattered in all directions, and the rebels are giving chase. It's a huge morale boost to the rebels but they couldn't have done it without coalition air power.

The rebels don't have very sophisticated weaponry, command structure or discipline. There have been a series of massive coalition air strikes through the night by coalition planes which have destroyed Gaddafi tanks and armoured vehicles.

The rebels are saying they will move west to their next target, Brega. Ultimately they're saying they will go to the capital Tripoli, but that still seems a long way off.
There is even more wrecked weaponry at the western gate and lots of bodies of pro-Gaddafi fighters, our correspondent has been told.

People have been standing on abandoned government tanks, firing guns into air, dancing in the streets and blaring car horns, he adds.

Some of them chanted "Thank you, Obama", "Thank you, Cameron" - references to the US president and British prime minister.

The rebels say they are going through the town street by street trying to make sure there are no government fighters or snipers left.

Reuters news agency, which earlier said the town's western gate was still in the hands of pro-Gaddafi forces, later quoted a Libyan government official as admitting they had abandoned the town.

"They [Western forces] were heavily involved, so the Libyan armed forces decided to leave Ajdabiya this morning," Khaled Kaim, a deputy foreign minister, told reporters.

Overnight strikes by international forces also reportedly hit an air base on the outskirts of Misrata, a rebel-held city further west which pro-Gaddafi forces have been shelling.

A rebel spokesman in the city told Reuters on Saturday that the government assault had eased as a result.

Large explosions were also heard in the Libyan capital Tripoli on Saturday morning.

Witnesses said a military radar site was set on fire in that city's suburb of Tajura, a previous target of the air raids.

In his weekly address, US President Barack Obama said that the "clear and focused" military mission in Libya was succeeding.

"Make no mistake, because we acted quickly, a humanitarian catastrophe has been avoided and the lives of countless civilians - innocent men, women and children - have been saved," he said.

Col Gaddafi is meanwhile said to have ordered a universal promotion for everyone in the army and police, and proposed arming civilian volunteers.

The BBC's Kevin Connolly in the eastern rebel stronghold of Benghazi says the administration's latest move smacks of desperation

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2011, 05:46:05 AM »
Obama, osama, al queada, and the mb rejoice. 

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2011, 05:50:54 AM »
don't forget all the pilots flying the missions, their happy because there doing their job and it's accomplishing something ;D

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2011, 05:53:31 AM »
getbiggers said the rebels weren't making progress.

I'm sure the BBC, libya's govt, the rebels, and blacken700 got this one wrong.

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2011, 05:55:57 AM »
on this board it's all about shiting on the pres, how unamerican, bunch of commies  :D :D :D

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2011, 05:58:37 AM »
I wish I could take a big long stinking dump on obama. 

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2011, 06:02:42 AM »
is that a sexual fetish, like a golden shower  ;D

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2011, 06:07:02 AM »
I wish I could take a big long stinking dump on obama. 

hahahaha funniest shit youve ever written!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2011, 06:23:30 AM »
I hope its a log followed by a spray. 

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2011, 06:24:41 AM »
I hope its a log followed by a spray. 

ahh, Taco hell aftermath.  bean burritos =  :-X

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2011, 06:34:43 AM »
Nah nathans' famous with a spray of heineken.

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2011, 06:46:06 AM »
don't forget all the pilots flying the missions, their happy because there doing their job and it's accomplishing something ;D

Look asshole, you don't know a fucking thing about what the military is thinking. I'm sure the pilots are over joyed that same bunch of fuck heads they have been bombing in Iraq and Afghanistan are now benefiting from US air power ::). STFU about  things you know nothing about.
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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2011, 06:51:29 AM »
ahh, Taco hell aftermath.  bean burritos =  :-X

Magic Wok aftermath.

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2011, 05:05:50 AM »
NEW TODAY: Rebels recapture key oil city Zeutila (or however you spell it).

The rebels are heading to tripoli.  Who said the rebels weren't going to win?  Kadaffi will flee or be hanging from a lamp post in a week.  The rebels hold 2/3 of the map, and the libyan media is now resorting to outright baghdad bob tactics. 

The people?  They're kicking down the door of the foreign media to complain about the way kadaffi's hired guns are treating them.  Rape, etc. 

Kadaffi is over.  He'll be outta there in a week.

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2011, 05:47:54 AM »
Libya: An opening for al Qaeda and jihad? (Obama rebuilding Al-Qaeda one country at a time)
cnn ^ | 3/27/2011 | Paul Cruickshank and Tim Lister


The town of Derna is not much to look at -- a heap of Soviet-style concrete buildings in a deprived and windswept corner of eastern Libya.

But it has a rich history -- fought over and colonized since Roman times -- and a stunning location on the Mediterranean. It has also gained a reputation as a hotbed of jihadists. And that has diplomats and analysts asking whether the unrest in Libya might provide an opening for al Qaeda and fellow travelers, just a short hop from Europe.

Derna even made it into U.S. diplomatic cables obtained by Wikileaks. A cable from 2008 describes it as a "wellspring of Libyan foreign fighters" for al Qaeda in Iraq. High youth unemployment, discrimination by the Gadhafi regime and the influence of veteran Libyan jihadists from Afghanistan all played a role in radicalizing a new generation.

"Other factors include a dearth of social outlets for young people, [and] local pride in Derna's history as a locus of fierce opposition to occupation," the cable said. "Most young men watched a mix of al-Jazeera news, religious sermons and western action films on English language satellite channels broadcast from the Gulf. The result was a heady mixture of violence, religious conservatism and hatred of U.S. policy in Iraq and Palestine."


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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2011, 06:12:23 AM »
Libyan rebels: “Now is the time of Jihad!”
The Pajamas Media Tatler ^ | John Rosenthal




The journalist Marc de Chalvron was in Libya ten days ago. He accompanied rebel forces as they advanced to the oil-producing town of Ras Lanuf and then were turned back by Libyan government forces. On a broadcast today on the French news channel i-Télé, de Chalvron showed footage from his trip. The footage includes interviews with rebels on the back of a pick-up truck on the road to Ras Lanuf. The full report can be viewed here (in French). The relevant portion is between 3:45 and 4:20 of the clip.

One rebel says: “We were at Benghazi with many other volunteers. From there, we are at Ajdabiya, the center of the Jihad.”


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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2011, 08:31:30 AM »
NEW TODAY: Rebels recapture key oil city Zeutila (or however you spell it).

The rebels are heading to tripoli.  Who said the rebels weren't going to win?  Kadaffi will flee or be hanging from a lamp post in a week.  The rebels hold 2/3 of the map, and the libyan media is now resorting to outright baghdad bob tactics. 

The people?  They're kicking down the door of the foreign media to complain about the way kadaffi's hired guns are treating them.  Rape, etc. 

Kadaffi is over.  He'll be outta there in a week.

The Al Queda contingent would have been wiped the fuck out, but the brilliant move by NATO is now going to give them a country. Not only a country but one with some oil reserves, brilliant now we really can finance AQ every time we get gas ::) I have seen some brain dead foreign policy in my time, but I think this takes the cake.
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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2011, 08:40:35 AM »
This is what obama wants.   He is empowering al queada and the mb on purpose so they can create a global islamic caliphate and wipe out israel and choke off our oil supply. 

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2011, 08:50:17 AM »
so the oil is for Eurpoean nations?

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2011, 09:09:02 AM »
Man, replacing dictators in the Middle East has really worked out well so far. Tunisia is a complete basket-case right now and Egypt looks stellar:

(NY Times) — In post-revolutionary Egypt, where hope and confusion collide in the daily struggle to build a new nation, religion has emerged as a powerful political force, following an uprising that was based on secular ideals. The Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamist group once banned by the state, is at the forefront, transformed into a tacit partner with the military government that many fear will thwart fundamental changes.

It is also clear that the young, educated secular activists who initially propelled the nonideological revolution are no longer the driving political force — at least not at the moment.

As the best organized and most extensive opposition movement in Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood was expected to have an edge in the contest for influence. But what surprises many is its link to a military that vilified it.

“There is evidence the Brotherhood struck some kind of a deal with the military early on,” said Elijah Zarwan, a senior analyst with the International Crisis Group. “It makes sense if you are the military — you want stability and people off the street. The Brotherhood is one address where you can go to get 100,000 people off the street.” . . .

“We are all worried,” said Amr Koura, 55, a television producer, reflecting the opinions of the secular minority. “The young people have no control of the revolution anymore. It was evident in the last few weeks when you saw a lot of bearded people taking charge. The youth are gone.”

The Muslim Brotherhood is also regarded warily by some religious Egyptians, who see it as an elitist, secret society. These suspicions have created potential opportunities for other parties.

About six groups from the ultraconservative Salafist school of Islam have also emerged in the era after President Hosni Mubarak’s removal, as well as a party called Al Wassat, intended as a more liberal alternative to the Brotherhood.

In the early stages of the revolution, the Brotherhood was reluctant to join the call for demonstrations. It jumped in only after it was clear that the protest movement had gained traction. Throughout, the Brotherhood kept a low profile, part of a survival instinct honed during decades of repression by the state.

The question at the time was whether the Brotherhood would move to take charge with its superior organizational structure. It now appears that it has.




Huzzah! Middle Eastern progress! Apparently, in 240's world, 50 steps backwards for every step forward = progress.

Funny how we've gone from "No-Fly Zone" to launching air strikes on Gadhafi troops fighting a rebel advance and yet Obama still refuses to call it a war. What a pathetic joke.

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2011, 09:25:16 AM »
BF has a point.
I am not sorry these dictators are going BUT they spoke a language their people understood.
Removing these guys usually unleashes, tribal and religeous nuts who where to scared to come out before.
I am sure in most of the Arab countries that have gotten rid of their nut case leaders things will get much worse before they get better, I am also 100% sure that some will be even more dangerous to the free world now than when they had a donkey whisperer as dah "boss"

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2011, 09:51:52 AM »
The Al Queda contingent would have been wiped the fuck out, but the brilliant move by NATO is now going to give them a country. Not only a country but one with some oil reserves, brilliant now we really can finance AQ every time we get gas ::) I have seen some brain dead foreign policy in my time, but I think this takes the cake.

25 fighters from alqueda i think you might be stretching it a little  ::) ::)

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2011, 09:53:15 AM »
25 fighters from alqueda i think you might be stretching it a little  ::) ::)

Wow, you know exactly how many jihadists and terrorists are fighting alongside the rebels there!? You must be psychic!  ::)

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2011, 09:56:23 AM »
i guess that works both ways ;D

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Re: Libya rebels 'recapture key town'
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2011, 09:59:19 AM »
i guess that works both ways ;D

You should do some reading, gimmick, as one eastern Libyan town sent 5x that many fighters to Iraq in 2006 alone.  ::)