I would like to add my two cents. As a neutral third party trying to make sense of drugs vs. Natural, finding time for family and so forth. So, the first point I will make is that Sherief is to be commended for his devotion to his wife and two beautiful children. When a man begins a family, play time is over. If you're lucky you got to sow your wild oats in your teens to mid twenties. But whether you did or you didn't, when the children come along, its over. Time to man up. That wife and those kids need 110% of yor time and attention. Your job or your two jobs become important too. The broads, the toys, the bodybuilding...that's for the younger guys. Your job is to be a husband, a dad, a provider. Okay, maybe you have a weight bench in the basement, and you can steal twenty minutes here and there and bang out a couple of sets. But a real man doesn't and shouldn't be involved in a full blown bodybuilding effort, unless that's what keeps food on the table. So Groink has some big arms, and seems like a nice enough guy, but from what I'm hearing he did to his family...I can't get with that. Maybe it's my Greek heritage and culture, but I think it's just plain wrong. Not manly at all, what this kid is doing.