Deca doesn't cause fat gain, too many calories cause fat gain. Plenty of guys use Deca on a contest cycle, usually a lower end dose but it's very common on a contest cycle and has been for decades. I'm not saying it's the best steroid to use on a contest or cutting cycle, I'm simply saying it won't cause fat gain just because you're using it. And the water thing, a good aromatase inhibitor and a diet that's not higher in carbs than it needs to be will prevent excess water or bloat.
BTW, why do you always say "Trenbolona" or Equipoina" and things like that? It makes no sense...it's "Trenbolone" or "Tren" there is no "Ona"...it just irritates me a little, lol!
they use npp..but yes nandrolona is good too for competition if know how to use it ,,you got to understand when i talk to fellas aroudn bodybuild especialy the none competetive or the no interest in competing yet want to look like bodybuild which is majority of fellas around i try to get them the shortest way to get to bodybuilder physiqe with out changing much as in not changin much of diet,,yes clean it up some but really keeping life as simple as it was before bodybuild only with more protien and little cycle of carbs,,actually i get them to competitor level with high carbs too,,
i put them in bodybuild condition whiel eatin sushi eggwhites and vietnamease,, german and jamaican too
i give the best route to conditioned size,,and the best route is not deca,,deca indeed doesnt cause lots of fat gain but it cause lots of water,,ai is not recomended by me in any cycles unless higher level competitor and also ae not recomended by me unless wateer fountain even then i woudl be very careful with all that and use insted masteron,, proviron and or halo depending on how lean and ripped one is ,,
so deca wil make you gain water weight,,yes it will be within the muscle and outside the muscle ,,yes you wil be able to see your abs but it wil be blurrder and lines wont be detailed on the diet they want to be which is more free eating type of diet,,
true gh will help with that but many of them are poorer individuals with no money to invest in gh ,,
even with gh i still recomend diff approach to gettign lean and reminaing large as in conditioend muscle,,because gh in general causes water retention even if it drops later on it still there to some degree while on the gh ,,so even the gh need to be dropped for good 3+ weeks,,
now what i recomedn is
trenbolona ace
shorter ester testosterona but NOT suspension!
masterona
gh for limited time of 2-4 months then get off it to evluate progress,,
eq along the way and take it out moment you get to 8% while at the same time increasing trenblona doses and masterona doses ,,you can also do with out masterona but then you will have to really go higher on the trenbolona and be very careful with testosterona doses in any case you will have to have it at some point or find other alternative such as proviron or halo in the later stages in getting into conditioned size,,i recomend masteron rather than halo becaus halo will stiffen you up just little too much in the tendoins ,,it wont hurt to train since you will be super strong but! it wil give you the stiffen look with out the winstrol sides of tendoin tendernes and hurt,,
so there you have it ,, thats what i recomend
trenbolona testosterona masterona gh ...along the way equipona and or nandrolone but only when in the doubles unless you intend to eat very clean and have all your meals mesured and calculated which is not what majority of fellas who ask me for this advice want,,they want to know the secret for LOOKIN like bodybuilder with out a very strict cazlculated diet,,nandrolona will not let you get there the way they want ,,it wont,,
what i recomend here will put you 6-7% 200+ lb with eating like normal human being only more protien .... it will do it very effectivly and it will do it quite fast with out too many counter drugs and with out suffering of clean diet that need to be kept ONLY between 6 and 4% bodyfat
and lastly what i recomend is no cardio involved,,meaning there will be no cardio needed and you will walk around 6-7 % 200 lb or over,,and this is the most average fella around ,,genetic phenomenon may very well walk around 210-220 etc
no insulina what so ever ,,
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