Syrian protests death toll tops 200. Obama and world stay silent.

[Fury]

SYRIA: OPPOSITION, 200 PEOPLE KILLED DURING PROTESTS

(ANSAmed) - AMMAN, APRIL 12 - The main Syrian human rights movement has estimated that up to 200 people have been killed during protests that have been ongoing in Syria for less than a month, and has called on the Arab League to impose sanctions on the figures in power.

''The uprisings in Syria have produced 200 martyrs, hundreds of people injured and a similar number arrested,'' says the ''Declaration of Damascus'' group in a letter to the secretary general of the Arab League. ''We ask you to impose political, diplomatic and economic sanctions upon the Syrian regime, which continues to be the loyal guardian of the legacy of Hafez Al Assad,'' says the document, in reference to the ''iron fist'' imposed by the father of the current President, Bashar Al Assad.

http://www.ansamed.info/en/news/ME.XEF77113.html


So Libya, where the so-called "massacres" haven't even been documented, gets invaded while the terrorist-financing, Iranian lackey gets a free pass on their massacres. Makes sense.  

[Soul Crusher]

Assad is a reformer! 

[tu_holmes]

Yeah, I don't get any of this shit.

Can't we just bring everyone back home and say, if you fuck with us or our allies, I will turn your front yard into glass.

Fuck all this shit.

[240 is Back]

it's a "get involved with the affairs of other nations thing".

Bush loved doing it.  Obama loves doing it.  Clinton did it.

It's always countries that export terrorism or oil, for some reason

[andreisdaman]

SYRIA: OPPOSITION, 200 PEOPLE KILLED DURING PROTESTS

(ANSAmed) - AMMAN, APRIL 12 - The main Syrian human rights movement has estimated that up to 200 people have been killed during protests that have been ongoing in Syria for less than a month, and has called on the Arab League to impose sanctions on the figures in power.

''The uprisings in Syria have produced 200 martyrs, hundreds of people injured and a similar number arrested,'' says the ''Declaration of Damascus'' group in a letter to the secretary general of the Arab League. ''We ask you to impose political, diplomatic and economic sanctions upon the Syrian regime, which continues to be the loyal guardian of the legacy of Hafez Al Assad,'' says the document, in reference to the ''iron fist'' imposed by the father of the current President, Bashar Al Assad.

http://www.ansamed.info/en/news/ME.XEF77113.html


So Libya, where the so-called "massacres" haven't even been documented, gets invaded while the terrorist-financing, Iranian lackey gets a free pass on their massacres. Makes sense.  

What a dick you are,.,..you KNOW we can't intervene everywhere....you're being really dumb here

[Fury]

What a dick you are,.,..you KNOW we can't intervene everywhere....you're being really dumb here

That's the precedent Obama set. He invaded a country to save civilians. Civilians in Syria are dying. What makes Libya special? More civilians have been confirmed dead in Syria than there were in Libya before we decided to run in there guns-a-blazing. Are you insinuating that Obama is indeed a hypocrite?





Pelosi’s Favorite Arab Dictator Shooting Soldiers For Refusing to Fire on Protesters

(Guardian) – Syrian soldiers have been shot by security forces after refusing to fire on protesters, witnesses said, as a crackdown on anti-government demonstrations intensified.

Witnesses told al-Jazeera and the BBC that some soldiers had refused to shoot after the army moved into Banias in the wake of intense protests on Friday.

Human rights monitors named Mourad Hejjo, a conscript from Madaya village, as one of those shot by security snipers. “His family and town are saying he refused to shoot at his people,” said Wassim Tarif, a local human rights monitor.

Footage on YouTube shows an injured soldier saying he was shot in the back by security forces, while another video shows the funeral of Muhammad Awad Qunbar, who sources said was killed for refusing to fire on protesters. Signs of defections will be worrying to Syria’s regime. State media reported a different version of events, claiming nine soldiers had been killed in an ambush by an armed group in Banias.

Activists said not all soldiers reported dead or injured were shot after refusing to fire. “We are investigating reports that some people have personal weapons and used them in self-defence,” said Tarif.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/12/syrian-soldiers-shot-protest

[andreisdaman]

That's the precedent Obama set. He invaded a country to save civilians. Civilians in Syria are dying. What makes Libya special? More civilians have been confirmed dead in Syria than there were in Libya before we decided to run in there guns-a-blazing. Are you insinuating that Obama is indeed a hypocrite?





Pelosi’s Favorite Arab Dictator Shooting Soldiers For Refusing to Fire on Protesters

(Guardian) – Syrian soldiers have been shot by security forces after refusing to fire on protesters, witnesses said, as a crackdown on anti-government demonstrations intensified.

Witnesses told al-Jazeera and the BBC that some soldiers had refused to shoot after the army moved into Banias in the wake of intense protests on Friday.

Human rights monitors named Mourad Hejjo, a conscript from Madaya village, as one of those shot by security snipers. “His family and town are saying he refused to shoot at his people,” said Wassim Tarif, a local human rights monitor.

Footage on YouTube shows an injured soldier saying he was shot in the back by security forces, while another video shows the funeral of Muhammad Awad Qunbar, who sources said was killed for refusing to fire on protesters. Signs of defections will be worrying to Syria’s regime. State media reported a different version of events, claiming nine soldiers had been killed in an ambush by an armed group in Banias.

Activists said not all soldiers reported dead or injured were shot after refusing to fire. “We are investigating reports that some people have personal weapons and used them in self-defence,” said Tarif.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/12/syrian-soldiers-shot-protest

he's not a hypocrite...you and I both know you can't always fight everybody..you have to pick and choose your battles..what the real question is why are you constantly trying to make your own president look bad???..okay you don't agree with him,..but he is still your representative in the world...I can't understand why you would constantly try to make him look bad when that just degrades our country further???

[Soul Crusher]

He is not my president.   He is the object for me to defeat in 2012 at the ballot box, no matter who runs against him, madoff, vandersloot, BTK Killer, scott peterson, all included.     

[Fury]

he's not a hypocrite...you and I both know you can't always fight everybody..you have to pick and choose your battles..what the real question is why are you constantly trying to make your own president look bad???..okay you don't agree with him,..but he is still your representative in the world...I can't understand why you would constantly try to make him look bad when that just degrades our country further???

Pick and choose? He said that protecting civilians in foreign countries is in our national interest. Well, the Syrian govt. has been documented massacring civilians (there was no such documentation in Libya, just hearsay) so why aren't we invading? Obama and his cronies, specifically Samantha Power and Susan Rice, are hypocrites of the highest order. Pick and choose your battles? Give me a fucking break.

And I'm not the one making him look bad. Him putting this country into a third war that has no end in sight and for no reason whatsoever is making us look bad.

[andreisdaman]

Pick and choose? He said that protecting civilians in foreign countries is in our national interest. Well, the Syrian govt. has been documented massacring civilians (there was no such documentation in Libya, just hearsay) so why aren't we invading? Obama and his cronies, specifically Samantha Power and Susan Rice, are hypocrites of the highest order. Pick and choose your battles? Give me a fucking break.

And I'm not the one making him look bad. Him putting this country into a third war that has no end in sight and for no reason whatsoever is making us look bad.

you are contradicting yourself which I expect since you guys on here will do and say anything to make Obama look bad....you say he is an idiot for getting us into a third war yet you basically agitate for him to get us into another war with Syria and if he did you would be criticizing that...so which is it?...I am sick of you guys taking artificial positions just to position yourself to make Obama look bad....should he go into Syria or not?>..don't talk about anything else..answer that question and come down on one side of the issue...

[Soul Crusher]

you are contradicting yourself which I expect since you guys on here will do and say anything to make Obama look bad....you say he is an idiot for getting us into a third war yet you basically agitate for him to get us into another war with Syria and if he did you would be criticizing that...so which is it?...I am sick of you guys taking artificial positions just to position yourself to make Obama look bad....should he go into Syria or not?>..don't talk about anything else..answer that question and come down on one side of the issue...

Ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha ! ! ! ! ! !

Are you kidding?     

[Fury]

you are contradicting yourself which I expect since you guys on here will do and say anything to make Obama look bad....you say he is an idiot for getting us into a third war yet you basically agitate for him to get us into another war with Syria and if he did you would be criticizing that...so which is it?...I am sick of you guys taking artificial positions just to position yourself to make Obama look bad....should he go into Syria or not?>..don't talk about anything else..answer that question and come down on one side of the issue...

If we're invading countries that kill their own populace then why not run with? What makes Libya special? He's a hypocrite.

I can see it now. Swing down through Africa and work our way back towards Syria and Iran, then onto China and finally through South America and Venezuela on the way home. It'll be a party!

[andreisdaman]

If we're invading countries that kill their own populace then why not run with? What makes Libya special? He's a hypocrite.

I can see it now. Swing down through Africa and work our way back towards Syria and Iran, then onto China and finally through South America and Venezuela on the way home. It'll be a party!

naturally you don't answer the question because you know you would expose yourself to your own hypocrisy...OWNED!!!!

[Soul Crusher]

Obama:  "Gadaffi will be gone in a matter of days." 


Ha ha ha ha ha - what a joke.  FUCK YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS.     

[George Whorewell]

naturally you don't answer the question because you know you would expose yourself to your own hypocrisy...OWNED!!!!

Andre, I say this with a heavy heart because I truly believe that you lack the cognitive ability to comprehend most of the discussions that transpire in these threads. You--- are---- an----- idiot.

To explain, I will address your latest war against logic and reason. BF's point is that Osama entered into an armed conflict in the middle east and gave "humanitarian" justifications to do so. However, if you take a look at the region as a whole, there are humanitarian reasons to go into the entire middle east and help liberate the population. Syria is a great example because they pose a legitimate threat to the United States while sponsoring terrorism. In addition they aid Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and other terror groups. Right now the dictator of Syria is killing men, women and children that are peacefully protesting by the hundreds. Contrary to much of the middle east, a substantial portion of the Syrian population is moderate. Why are we fighting in Libya, a country of absolutely no strategic value to the United States when the rebels that we are assisting contain sizeable elements of Al Queda and other terror offshoots? Because of humanitarian reasons? If you are stupid enough to believe that and cant tell why BF is sarcastically asking why we dont intervene in Syria, then you should sign yourself up for electroshock therapy.

[andreisdaman]

Andre, I say this with a heavy heart because I truly believe that you lack the cognitive ability to comprehend most of the discussions that transpire in these threads. You--- are---- an----- idiot.

To explain, I will address your latest war against logic and reason. BF's point is that Osama entered into an armed conflict in the middle east and gave "humanitarian" justifications to do so. However, if you take a look at the region as a whole, there are humanitarian reasons to go into the entire middle east and help liberate the population. Syria is a great example because they pose a legitimate threat to the United States while sponsoring terrorism. In addition they aid Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and other terror groups. Right now the dictator of Syria is killing men, women and children that are peacefully protesting by the hundreds. Contrary to much of the middle east, a substantial portion of the Syrian population is moderate. Why are we fighting in Libya, a country of absolutely no strategic value to the United States when the rebels that we are assisting contain sizeable elements of Al Queda and other terror offshoots? Because of humanitarian reasons? If you are stupid enough to believe that and cant tell why BF is sarcastically asking why we dont intervene in Syria, then you should sign yourself up for electroshock therapy.

and my answer to that is that you have to choose your battles..we can't intervene everywhere all at once.....and strategically we need the Syrians to be on board with any peace deal with Israel in the future....no one gives a shit about Gaddhafi....also, Libya has oil and Syria ain't got shit..plus our allies wanted to do it.....we went along with it because they have gone along with us on things we have wanted to do in the past.....

thats the real world reasons.....they aren't perfect and they don't fit into what we want, but we gotta accept it for what it is.....hope you accept them

[George Whorewell]

and my answer to that is that you have to choose your battles..we can't intervene everywhere all at once.....and strategically we need the Syrians to be on board with any peace deal with Israel in the future....no one gives a shit about Qaddafi....also, Libya has oil and Syria ain't got shit..plus our allies wanted to do it.....we went along with it because they have gone along with us on things we have wanted to do in the past.....

thats the real world reasons.....they aren't perfect and they don't fit into what we want, but we gotta accept it for what it is.....hope you accept them

Ok- so then you admit that Osama lied about why we are in Libya. It's just about oil correct? Also, you do realize that Europe, not the United States gets its oil from Libya right?

So essentially, we chose to pick a battle with a country that is irrelevant to American interests under false pretenses in order to help our European allies-- at least one of which pushed for the early release of a Libyan terrorist who murdered several Americans ( Great Britain+ the Lockerbie Bomber) and is under Qaddafi's protection?

Also, I don't know how much attention you pay to mid east affairs, but Syria wants Israel wiped off the map, supports Hamas+ Hezbollah and is a defacto arm of Iran. Syria is about as important to the Israeli peace process as dogshit is to perfume.  Just FYI.

[Soul Crusher]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha  - are you fucking kidding?  

[GigantorX]

Ok- so then you admit that Osama lied about why we are in Libya. It's just about oil correct? Also, you do realize that Europe, not the United States gets its oil from Libya right?

So essentially, we chose to pick a battle with a country that is irrelevant to American interests under false pretenses in order to help our European allies-- at least one of which that pushed for the early release of a Libyan terrorist who murdered several Americans ( Great Britain+ the Lockerbie Bomber) and is under Qaddafi's protection?

Also, I don't know how much attention you pay to mid east affairs, but Syria wants Israel wiped off the map, supports Hamas+ Hezbollah and is a defacto arm of Iran. Syria is about as important to the Israeli peace process as dogshit is to perfume.  Just FYI.

Syria and its leader, who is murdering people in the streets at this moment, is also supported by the Obama admin. as being "progressive" and a "force for change".

Your post was the end of the thread.

[Skip8282]

and my answer to that is that you have to choose your battles..we can't intervene everywhere all at once.....and strategically we need the Syrians to be on board with any peace deal with Israel in the future....no one gives a shit about Gaddhafi....also, Libya has oil and Syria ain't got shit..plus our allies wanted to do it.....we went along with it because they have gone along with us on things we have wanted to do in the past.....

thats the real world reasons.....they aren't perfect and they don't fit into what we want, but we gotta accept it for what it is.....hope you accept them

Yes, and they've also told us to fuck off and didn't help us when we asked.  To suggest that Obama couldn't have done the same thing is to basically alledge that Obama is a mindless and stupid drone.

For once, you and I are in agreement.

[240 is Back]

16 nations call for kadaffi to leave now.   he'll be gone soon.

[tonymctones]

and my answer to that is that you have to choose your battles..we can't intervene everywhere all at once.....and strategically we need the Syrians to be on board with any peace deal with Israel in the future....no one gives a shit about Gaddhafi....also, Libya has oil and Syria ain't got shit..plus our allies wanted to do it.....we went along with it because they have gone along with us on things we have wanted to do in the past.....

thats the real world reasons.....they aren't perfect and they don't fit into what we want, but we gotta accept it for what it is.....hope you accept them

so I guess youre ok with bush's decision to invade Iraq?

after all they have oil, nobody gave a fuck about sadam, our allies wanted us to...

[tonymctones]

Andre, I say this with a heavy heart because I truly believe that you lack the cognitive ability to comprehend most of the discussions that transpire in these threads. You--- are---- an----- idiot.

this is about the truth of it

I dont know how many of you guys have seen the thread on general that andre started but if you havent go check it out. Its titled like this one and he really does show himself to be a fucking moron.

[Fury]

Andre, I say this with a heavy heart because I truly believe that you lack the cognitive ability to comprehend most of the discussions that transpire in these threads. You--- are---- an----- idiot.

To explain, I will address your latest war against logic and reason. BF's point is that Osama entered into an armed conflict in the middle east and gave "humanitarian" justifications to do so. However, if you take a look at the region as a whole, there are humanitarian reasons to go into the entire middle east and help liberate the population. Syria is a great example because they pose a legitimate threat to the United States while sponsoring terrorism. In addition they aid Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and other terror groups. Right now the dictator of Syria is killing men, women and children that are peacefully protesting by the hundreds. Contrary to much of the middle east, a substantial portion of the Syrian population is moderate. Why are we fighting in Libya, a country of absolutely no strategic value to the United States when the rebels that we are assisting contain sizeable elements of Al Queda and other terror offshoots? Because of humanitarian reasons? If you are stupid enough to believe that and cant tell why BF is sarcastically asking why we dont intervene in Syria, then you should sign yourself up for electroshock therapy.

This. Well said, GW. At least everyone else understood it. Guess you have to put things in "Hooked-on-Phonics" terms for Andre. 

16 nations call for kadaffi to leave now.   he'll be gone soon.

You've been saying this for a month now, Nostradamus. 

I like that you're bragging about 16 countries calling for him to leave. Meanwhile, the other 179 countries on the planet couldn't care less.

[Soul Crusher]

Obama "days, not weeks". 


Ha ha ha ha.  Fail.