Syrian protests death toll tops 200. Obama and world stay silent.

[tu_holmes]

This. Well said, GW. At least everyone else understood it. Guess you have to put things in "Hooked-on-Phonics" terms for Andre. 

You've been saying this for a month now, Nostradamus. 

I like that you're bragging about 16 countries calling for him to leave. Meanwhile, the other 179 countries on the planet couldn't care less.

Like most of us on Getbig.

Even if you like Obama... you gotta admit this is a colossal fuck up.

[Fury]

Like most of us on Getbig.

Even if you like Obama... you gotta admit this is a colossal fuck up.

I've yet to see any of them on this board admit it was a fuck-up. The majority refuse to even address this topic and the few who have done so have thrown their weight behind their God-King.

[Soul Crusher]

I've yet to see any of them on this board admit it was a fuck-up. The majority refuse to even address this topic and the few who have done so have thrown their weight behind their God-King.

OBAMA:  "DAYS NOT WEEKS, OR MONTHS, OR YEARS"      HA HA HA HA HA

[tu_holmes]

I've yet to see any of them on this board admit it was a fuck-up. The majority refuse to even address this topic and the few who have done so have thrown their weight behind their God-King.

I was willing to give him a shot, but yeah... dude has fucked up.

[tonymctones]

I was willing to give him a shot, but yeah... dude has fucked up.

you and hugo are pretty much the only ones who voted for him that are willing to admit he is a shit ball

[tu_holmes]

you and hugo are pretty much the only ones who voted for him that are willing to admit he is a shit ball

I want the country to be better... It can't get better by sticking my head in the sand.

[andreisdaman]

Ok- so then you admit that Osama lied about why we are in Libya. It's just about oil correct? Also, you do realize that Europe, not the United States gets its oil from Libya right?

So essentially, we chose to pick a battle with a country that is irrelevant to American interests under false pretenses in order to help our European allies-- at least one of which pushed for the early release of a Libyan terrorist who murdered several Americans ( Great Britain+ the Lockerbie Bomber) and is under Qaddafi's protection?

Also, I don't know how much attention you pay to mid east affairs, but Syria wants Israel wiped off the map, supports Hamas+ Hezbollah and is a defacto arm of Iran. Syria is about as important to the Israeli peace process as dogshit is to perfume.  Just FYI.

Guess what???..I agree with everything you said here...and again..I reiterate...that its politics..its not all perfect how we want it to be.....I gave you the real reasons..accept it or not.....also yes Syria wants Israel off the face of the earth..I admit that...but it has always been U.S,. policy even with Republican presidents to keep a sort of hands off policy on Syria and to try and get them to come around to peace with Israel....This policy has been in place before Obama and will be in place after him.....accept it and move on....politics ain't pretty

[andreisdaman]

Yes, and they've also told us to fuck off and didn't help us when we asked.  To suggest that Obama couldn't have done the same thing is to basically alledge that Obama is a mindless and stupid drone.

For once, you and I are in agreement.

your statement is really idiotic...how can the president of the United states..the most powerful man in the world....be a drone???....you don't tell allies to fuck off..thats why you don't have any idea about world diplomacy.....your lack of education really shows here

[andreisdaman]

so I guess youre ok with bush's decision to invade Iraq?

after all they have oil, nobody gave a fuck about sadam, our allies wanted us to...

I have always said I was a Bush supporter and that I was okay with him invading Iraq...sorry I don't fit into your idea of a leftist sympathizer

[andreisdaman]

this is about the truth of it

I dont know how many of you guys have seen the thread on general that andre started but if you havent go check it out. Its titled like this one and he really does show himself to be a fucking moron.

I guess I am a moron because I don't stay stuck in my way of thinking like the rest of you....there is no critical thinking by you or other conservatives  on this board at all

[Fury]

your statement is really idiotic...how can the president of the United states..the most powerful man in the world....be a drone???....you don't tell allies to fuck off..thats why you don't have any idea about world diplomacy.....your lack of education really shows here

Do you ever stop contradicting yourself? "You don't tell allies to fuck off?" Ha. That's exactly what Obama did with Mubarak. Good job criticizing your Messiah in an attempt to defend him.

Your lack of education really shows here. (Protip: Don't insult the intelligence of others when you use "..." as you did.)

Critical thinking. LOL! You're an Obama lemming. Plain and simple.

[andreisdaman]

Syria and its leader, who is murdering people in the streets at this moment, is also supported by the Obama admin. as being "progressive" and a "force for change".

Your post was the end of the thread.

again its been United States policy for at least 25 years.....I don't agree with it but thats the way it is...my point is..why blame Obama for that>>>>?

[andreisdaman]

This. Well said, GW. At least everyone else understood it. Guess you have to put things in "Hooked-on-Phonics" terms for Andre. 

You've been saying this for a month now, Nostradamus. 

I like that you're bragging about 16 countries calling for him to leave. Meanwhile, the other 179 countries on the planet couldn't care less.

again you never answered the question I posed to you....STILL OWNED

[andreisdaman]

Do you ever stop contradicting yourself? "You don't tell allies to fuck off?" Ha. That's exactly what Obama did with Mubarak. Good job criticizing your Messiah in an attempt to defend him.

Your lack of education really shows here. (Protip: Don't insult the intelligence of others when you use "..." as you did.)

Critical thinking. LOL! You're an Obama lemming. Plain and simple.

When I said allies, I meant our NATO partners.....Mubarak was not an ally per se..he was a convenient partner...keep trying..you're still OWNED

[Fury]

When I said allies, I meant our NATO partners.....Mubarak was not an ally per se..he was a convenient partner...keep trying..you're still OWNED

Hahaha, now you're just playing word games. In essence, every ally is a "convenient partner". You're embarrassing yourself pretty badly here.

And here I was thinking you wouldn't pop back into this thread after GW so nicely laid it out for you, while also making you look like the moron you are. Guess you're a glutton for punishment.

[andreisdaman]

Hahaha, now you're just playing word games. In essence, every ally is a "convenient partner". You're embarrassing yourself pretty badly here.

And here I was thinking you wouldn't pop back into this thread after GW so nicely laid it out for you, while also making you look like the moron you are. Guess you're a glutton for punishment.

sigh,....this thread has basically degenerated to you trying to use word games as a form of "gotcha"..if thats all you have then good for you....still waiting for a response to my question posed to you a long time ago...you won't answer because you can't....until you answer that, please stay out of the thread....STILL OWNED

[Fury]

Dozens being killed every day here. 24 reported dead in the latest protests.

Meanwhile, the Obama regime and other leftist "pro-democracy" heroes stay silent.

[Soul Crusher]

Dozens being killed every day here. 24 reported dead in the latest protests.

Meanwhile, the Obama regime and other leftist "pro-democracy" heroes stay silent.

This whole mess is going to end up very badly.   The islamists are going to end up stronger, Saudi's (as bad as they are) not even a noinal ally of the US, and a stronger Iran. 

The level of sheer incompetence of this Admn is beyond comprehension or description.       

[Fury]

This whole mess is going to end up very badly.   The islamists are going to end up stronger, Saudi's (as bad as they are) not even a noinal ally of the US, and a stronger Iran. 

The level of sheer incompetence of this Admn is beyond comprehension or description.       

These Syrian protesters hate Iran and Hezbollah (they've been chanting against them since these protests started), which would explain why Obama isn't helping them. 

[Deicide]

I want the country to be better... It can't get better by sticking my head in the sand.

Foreign interventionism has been a hallmark of the USA going back at least to Truman and much further to Teddy Roosevelt. The funny thing is you see how polarised these boards are in this regard because if an alleged conservative wastes, money, resources, lives and time playing policeman of the world, it's fine, but if a 'liberal' does it, it's not. I would have thought by now that people would have been sick of the foreign policy we have, but it's just game playing, Obama does it=bad, Bush does it=fine.

[tu_holmes]

Foreign interventionism has been a hallmark of the USA going back at least to Truman and much further to Teddy Roosevelt. The funny thing is you see how polarised these boards are in this regard because if an alleged conservative wastes, money, resources, lives and time playing policeman of the world, it's fine, but if a 'liberal' does it, it's not. I would have thought by now that people would have been sick of the foreign policy we have, but it's just game playing, Obama does it=bad, Bush does it=fine.

It is shameful to be sure... I can't stand the US foreign policy... We have no real super enemies, so we have to make them up or what have  you.

I would pull my guys away from these places so bad, you'd have people going cross-eyed over it, and if someone came into my house and put their foot on my couch, I'd return them to the stone age.





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[Fury]

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We've got enemies. I like to call them "the UN".

[tu_holmes]

We've got enemies. I like to call them "the UN".

I also agree... That would be my first military decision.

Bye UN... You don't like it... Move your office to France.

[Deicide]

It is shameful to be sure... I can't stand the US foreign policy... We have no real super enemies, so we have to make them up or what have  you.

I would pull my guys away from these places so bad, you'd have people going cross-eyed over it, and if someone came into my house and put their foot on my couch, I'd return them to the stone age.





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There is an independent historian called Gareth Porter and he has some interesting ideas about our foreign policy and militarism. Contrary to what many propose and think, his idea is that the interventionism arises from the military and the MIC being a self-contained, self-propagating entity, basically they fight wars, because that's what the military does, no grand scheme of resource war or any such thing and if you think about it makes sense.

[tu_holmes]

There is a independent historian called Gareth Porter and he has some interesting ideas about our foreign policy and militarism. Contrary to what many propose and think, his idea is that the interventionism arises from the military and the MIC being a self-contained, self-propagating entity, basically they fight wars, because that's what the military does, no grand scheme of resource war or any such thing and if you think about it makes sense.

Like arresting people for bullshit because that's what keeps the cops / judges / and lawyers in business.

I can see that as a possible truth.