Keto fanatic - 45 minute video - who will change your life

[GroinkTropin]

so you are trying to say that when you carbs are low enough it doesnt matter how much fat you eat?

thats wrong.


if you eat mmore than maintanence calories it will cause weight gain, even if its 100% healthy fats.

False
The body can not store fat without insulin
It is impossible

[no one]

480gr prote - 200gr fat - 20gr carb it my winning formula get leaner fast pace evry day

a lot of broscience in this thread.

glad to see at least one person knows whats going on.

[Benoitlapierre]

a lot of broscience in this thread.

glad to see at least one person knows whats going on.

what right n wrong i dont know ,, but be big n 4%bf  it' th goal ,, i think im in th right direction ,,,
im goin public 2 weeks out , full utube n shit ,,
will see then

[WillGrant]

what right n wrong i dont know ,, but be big n 4%bf  it' th goal ,, i think im in th right direction ,,,
im goin public 2 weeks out , full utube n shit ,,
will see then

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[The_Leafy_Bug]

You are initially losing water... not fat. You will eventually get fatter if you stay on this kind of diet.

[TK652]

The good 'doc' is looking like the Unibomber these days.

[no one]

You are initially losing water... not fat. You will eventually get fatter if you stay on this kind of diet.

LOL

BLP and i are almost number for number matching macros. im a little higher with my fats, and a little lower in my protein.

also i think were both doing refeeds every 3-4 days if im not mistaken, so our diets macro wise and structure are very similar.

and were both getting the same results.

[Agent69]

Keto is a fukcen joke.....in a very small % it might work..otherwise it will totaly fukc up your system bigtime...........

[Stavios]

Keto is a fukcen joke.....in a very small % it might work..otherwise it will totaly fukc up your system bigtime...........

I feel fucking great on keto

I look like shit on it but I feel great 

[Benoitlapierre]

keto , 8 weeks out , 256

[Van_Bilderass]

I didn't watch the video but from the responses I can tell it's mostly bullshit.

False
The body can not store fat without insulin
It is impossible

You do not understand simple physiology.

You don't think the  body produces insulin unless you eat carbs?

Hey guys, this dude just found a way for diabetics to stop doing their insulin injections. Just don't eat carbs! 

Low carb dieting works but not for the reasons a lot seem to think.

Another thing: Benoit's insulin is most likely still pretty damn high on account of the monster GH doses (plus the very high protein) he's doing. So he's not getting leaner because of "no insulin".

[Van_Bilderass]

    totally incorrect, I do this every year for holiday. You can eat 3000 calories a day all high fat with no carbs and you will loose weight fast very fast. I loose about 4 pounds a day.

Here's your answer

You are initially losing water... not fat. You will eventually get fatter if you stay on this kind of diet.

Might as well drop a lazix and eat some carbs as well - even better "fat loss".

[notsureifsrs]

Here's your answer

Might as well drop a lazix and eat some carbs as well - even better "fat loss".

So that' why people tend to look really flat if they go on low carbs ? (not even keto state)

I think it's all about calories,
i went on low carbs just because my fat's and protein intake were at the minimum for me, so i had to drop carbs and with fewer re-feed/carb-up days i shred pretty fast...

[Van_Bilderass]

So that' why people tend to look really flat if they go on low carbs ? (not even keto state)

There is always a rather dramatic water drop if you drop your carbs completely.

Here's quick google from the diet genius Lyle McDonald: Now remember, this guy isn't against ketogenic dieting, quite contrary. But bullshit is bullshit.

Introduction

Pretty much without fail, every decade seems to see the resurgence of the idea that extremely low-carbohydrate diets have a ‘metabolic advantage’ over carb-based diets; that is the claim is made that the very low-carbohydrate diet will generate more weight or fat loss at the same (or sometimes even a higher calorie level).

Now, before I continue let me say that I have nothing against low-carbohydrate diets.  My first book The Ketogenic Diet was about nothing but and many of my dietary approaches often have low- or at least lowered carbohydrate phases to them as they tend to generate certain biological effects that I’m seeking.

As well, research clearly shows that, for some people, lowering carbohydrates can have profound health benefits and in some cases a near removal of dietary carbohydrates (except for things like fruits and vegetables) may be profoundly beneficial.

However, the weight and fat loss claims are a bit trickier.  There is certainly an element of truth to the idea that low-carb diets generate more total weight loss but this issue is confounded by the issue of water loss.  Between a drop in insulin (insulin causes the kidney to resorb water) and a dehydrating effect of ketones themselves, very-low carbohydrate diets can cause significant water loss.

As I discussed at length in The Ketogenic Diet, water loss can range from 1-15 pounds depending on size (even small individual may lose a rapid 3-4 pounds, of primarily water, in the first days of carbohydrate restriction).  This tends to make comparisons of weight loss pretty meaningless.  This is even more true when you consider that the difference in total weight loss between low- and high-carb diets is usually only a few pounds anyhow.

Full research review:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/ketogenic-low-carbohydrate-diets-have-no-metabolic-advantage-over-nonketogenic-low-carbohydrate-diets-research-review.html

I'd like to know why Benoit has refeeds since he claims he responds to carbs so poorly and has "poor insulin sensitivity".

[no one]

I feel fucking great on keto

I look like shit on it but I feel great  

stav, try this the next time you feel you look like shit and your body is telling you to eat- stay on your diet, but dont count calories for one day. eat as much fat as you want- keep protein the same. i like using almonds for this- they are an easy snack.

start this early in the day, and do it right up until you go to bed.

then message me about 8-10 hours later and tell me what happened. i think you'll be pretty fucking amazed.

i stumbled upon it by accident. im pretty sure the results will be the same for you provided you keep your carbs at trace.

[no one]

I'd like to know why Benoit has refeeds since he claims he responds to carbs so poorly and has "poor insulin sensitivity".

i'll field this- for me i always thought i 'needed' a refeed- you know? for me its wanting the fullness carbs give- then last week instead of having a refeed, i just upped my fat intake dramatically. i didnt even count the cals. i just ate fats as i was hungry, keeping my meals the same, but just snacking on fats between.

by the end of the night i have never experienced such a feeling of fullness and vascularity- and i am NOT a vascular guy. i honestly felt like i had just finished a workout given the fullness i was experiencing. it is the best i have looked to date in 15+ years of training. this week after my carb refeed, i looked like shit for the next day or two. the only variable that changed that day i upped my fats was my fat intake itself, so the fullness i have to attributed to that.

i am starting to find, for myself, when you get down to lower bf levels i think you can fill out just as well using fats, and keep looking tight- actually better- unlike a carb up which leaves you watering over.

also while it is true the rapid weight loss from a keto diet is due to the bodies release of water as a result of carb restriction, it doesnt explain the weight loss someone who is already 5-6 weeks in a prep is experiencing running a keto diet.

now, i have no dog in this fight- i am NOT a keto diet advocate (mostly because i dont think there is one way of dieting that works the same for everyone) im just relaying what im finding is working best for me.

[Van_Bilderass]

i'll field this- for me i always thought i 'needed' a refeed- you know? for me its wanting the fullness carbs give- then last week instead of having a refeed, i just upped my fat intake dramatically. i didnt even count the cals. i just ate fats as i was hungry, keeping my meals the same, but just snacking on fats between.

by the end of the night i have never experienced such a feeling of fullness and vascularity- and i am NOT a vascular guy. i honestly felt like i had just finished a workout given the fullness i was experiencing. it is the best i have looked to date in 15+ years of training. this week after my carb refeed, i looked like shit for the next day or two. the only variable that changed that day i upped my fats was my fat intake itself, so the fullness i have to attributed to that.

i am starting to find, for myself, when you get down to lower bf levels i think you can fill out just as well using fats, and keep looking tight- actually better- unlike a carb up which leaves you watering over.

also while it is true the rapid weight loss from a keto diet is due to the bodies release of water as a result of carb restriction, it doesnt explain the weight loss someone who is already 5-6 weeks in a prep is experiencing running a keto diet.

now, i have no dog in this fight- i am NOT a keto diet advocate (mostly because i dont think there is one way of dieting that works the same for everyone) im just relaying what im finding is working best for me.

I think a refeed including carbs is plain anabolic. I know Disgusted likes ketogenic diets but he has an all-you-can-eat day each week. I asked him if he thought this may be why his guys can put on muscle dieting and he said sure. I know Disgusted "hates" insulin but we know it stops catabolism and can increase anabolism. We all remember DiPasquale, Daniel Duchaine and McDonald used these cyclical approaches to attempt to burn fat at max rate while hopefully putting on some muscle through this metabolic trickery.

I'm  wondering about the "filling out with fats" theory though. I'm not saying it doesn't affect appearance but what happens to the fats - they're not quickly stored within the muscle like carbs do. Or do they? If they do, then that would be really horrible since fat marbled muscle is what the modern bodybuilders suffer from.  

[tbombz]

I think a refeed including carbs is plain anabolic. I know Disgusted likes ketogenic diets but he has an all-you-can-eat day each week. I asked him if he thought this may be why his guys can put on muscle dieting and he said sure. I know Disgusted "hates" insulin but we know it stops catabolism and can increase anabolism. We all remember DiPasquale, Daniel Duchaine and McDonald used these cyclical approaches to attempt to burn fat at max rate while hopefully putting on some muscle through this metabolic trickery.

I'm  wondering about the "filling out with fats" theory though. I'm not saying it doesn't affect appearance but what happens to the fats - they're not quickly stored within the muscle like carbs do. Or do they? If they do, then that would be really horrible since fat marbled muscle is what the modern bodybuilders suffer from.  

[old_lifter]

i'll field this- for me i always thought i 'needed' a refeed- you know? for me its wanting the fullness carbs give- then last week instead of having a refeed, i just upped my fat intake dramatically. i didnt even count the cals. i just ate fats as i was hungry, keeping my meals the same, but just snacking on fats between.

by the end of the night i have never experienced such a feeling of fullness and vascularity- and i am NOT a vascular guy. i honestly felt like i had just finished a workout given the fullness i was experiencing. it is the best i have looked to date in 15+ years of training. this week after my carb refeed, i looked like shit for the next day or two. the only variable that changed that day i upped my fats was my fat intake itself, so the fullness i have to attributed to that.

i am starting to find, for myself, when you get down to lower bf levels i think you can fill out just as well using fats, and keep looking tight- actually better- unlike a carb up which leaves you watering over.

also while it is true the rapid weight loss from a keto diet is due to the bodies release of water as a result of carb restriction, it doesnt explain the weight loss someone who is already 5-6 weeks in a prep is experiencing running a keto diet.

now, i have no dog in this fight- i am NOT a keto diet advocate (mostly because i dont think there is one way of dieting that works the same for everyone) im just relaying what im finding is working best for me.

what are you eating for high fat foods to fill out?

[no one]

I think a refeed including carbs is plain anabolic. I know Disgusted likes ketogenic diets but he has an all-you-can-eat day each week. I asked him if he thought this may be why his guys can put on muscle dieting and he said sure. I know Disgusted "hates" insulin but we know it stops catabolism and can increase anabolism. We all remember DiPasquale, Daniel Duchaine and McDonald used these cyclical approaches to attempt to burn fat at max rate while hopefully putting on some muscle through this metabolic trickery.

I'm  wondering about the "filling out with fats" theory though. I'm not saying it doesn't affect appearance but what happens to the fats - they're not quickly stored within the muscle like carbs do. Or do they? If they do, then that would be really horrible since fat marbled muscle is what the modern bodybuilders suffer from.  

i too wonder about how the fuck it was possible i filled out so well on just fats over 12 hours, especially when my fat intake is around 200-250 grams a day already. but i know my carbs for that day were under 30, my sodium which is already high stayed the same or was slightly elevated, my supps were the same etc. its the only thing that changed that day.

[no one]

what are you eating for high fat foods to fill out?

i use coconut oil and almonds as my 2 fat sources for the most part. that day i used both, but just ate an over abundance of almonds. i didnt measure or weigh them out, just snacked away on them, but i wouldnt be surprised if i took in an extra 100+ grams of fat over what im already getting.

[old_lifter]

interesting, i eat alot of almonds also and find my energy levels are much better than when i use carbs

[GroinkTropin]

I didn't watch the video but from the responses I can tell it's mostly bullshit.
 
You do not understand simple physiology.

You don't think the  body produces insulin unless you eat carbs?

Hey guys, this dude just found a way for diabetics to stop doing their insulin injections. Just don't eat carbs! 

Low carb dieting works but not for the reasons a lot seem to think.

Another thing: Benoit's insulin is most likely still pretty damn high on account of the monster GH doses (plus the very high protein) he's doing. So he's not getting leaner because of "no insulin".

When your blood sugar rises insulin is produced, when it gets too low glucagon is produced.

I understand human physiology rather well and stand behind my assertion.

Please show me how adipose tissue can be fed without insulin, I would love to see this.

[Benoitlapierre]

I'd like to know why Benoit has refeeds since he claims he responds to carbs so poorly and has "poor insulin sensitivity".

keto = high adrenaline , on well done keto , i refeed since deplte phase reach a point i can pull skin way too much ,, refeed for mental health or immune system , or insomnia

i refeed when thing goes downhill n problematic ,, reffeed give me the strength to keep goin

[Meso_z]

keto = high adrenaline , on well done keto , i refeed since deplte phase reach a point i can pull skin way too much ,, refeed for mental health or immune system , or insomnia

i refeed when thing goes downhill n problematic ,, reffeed give me the strength to keep goin

How many weeks after the starting the diet you introduce refeeding?