Is it worth your soul?

[outby43]

If you can use stress and your job as an excuse to get fucked up what excuse can you use?

Just asking?

LOL..nice Pellius.  My take on it is that you shouldn't use an excuse.  You do it because you want to.  I hear excuses all of the time in this drug court shit from other people when they "relapse"  .  Oh my dog died, I had a bad day at work, My wife/husband pissed me off.  Fuck that...you do it cuz you want to...there are no valid excuses for needing to get high or drunk.

Pellius = Pride-Honor-Respect

[Parker]

fuck me he's having a few drinks every other weekend or so.... some fucking freaks in here, i dont see the big deal, i hardly ever drink my self, but if i never trained id be propping up the bar every weekend

in my mind shes making a problem out of nothing

every girl ive went out with ive told them i'll never stop training, and i will use steroids from time to time, they either deal with that or they dont

You know as well as me, when anyone says "a few drinks", it means trying to down 2 six packs, or two 2 40s...when your woman makes a comment about your drinking habits, maybe, just maybe there might be a slight cause for alarm. The icing on the cake---the "stress of my job" excuse. But, it obviously is a problem if he had to make a thread on here...

[rccs]

Dude, you're an alcoholic.

Face it and get help. You are going to break up with a great woman because of beer?

This will be the case with all your relationships, or you can marry another alcoholic and drink yourselves to death together. But my guess if you stick with the alcohol you will end up alone, drink more and more and be a trainwreck sooner or later, quit your job and so on...

Time to step down on the alcohol, dude. You don't NEED alcohol to function in everyday life, and if you think you do, you need help.

Beer is a pretext for to take over his life. What is the problem to drink at weekends? I don't see any. A six pack? Drinking himself to death? I don't think so. People need to decompress from this stupid society. If he is accomplishing everything in his job and mantaining his progression, reseting on weekends is a good thing. If she doesn't want him to drink, too bad... We only live one time. You should know that, because in Germany it works just like that.

[Parker]

Beer is a pretext for to take over his life. What is the problem to drink at weekends? I don't see any. A six pack? Drinking himself to death? I don't think so. People need to decompress from this stupid society. If he is accomplishing everything in his job and mantaining his progression, reseting on weekends is a good thing. If she doesn't want him to drink, too bad... We only live one time. You should know that, because in Germany it works just like that.

He says he likes to drink on the weekends or when he's stressed. So it's 2+ times a week. Sometimes it's a 6 pack, sometimes it's not, and sometimes he can go weeks without drinking (so he says)...basically it's more than a weekend thing.

This ain't Germany, this is America where people like to over indulge...there is no sense of moderation here...I'm telling you, this will be the scenario, if it hasn't already happened. He drinks, gets drunk, either at home or a bar...his woman gets mad, they get into a argument, and he hits her. She calls the police, he gets arrested, and he may spend a night or nights in jail. Then the job gets whiff of it, he is now known as a drunk and a woman beater...this leads to more drinking...and so it snowballs.

Let's not even go into catching a DUI, or hitting someone while drinking and driving. Let's not go into getting into the losing end of a barfight...

[Tapeworm]

Been with a great woman for 2 years. Everything is good except I like to drink on weekends or when I'm stressed out. She wants to put an end to this. I work a STRESSFUL software engineering job in the defense sector and when thing go awry I like to drink to decompress. After a stressful week, I like to drink to decompress. So, the reality is is that I drink 2+ times a week. Sometimes it's a six pack, sometimes its more. Sometimes I'll go weeks without drinking.

Drinking works for me. It resets my stress levels and I'm ready to rock another week. She doesn't like it and wants it to stop. I am honestly thinking that before I met her, I was perfectly fine and I don't think I need any adjustments.

We are thinking about breaking up.

My view is that I work a stressful fucking job, I'm a grown man, and if I want some beers on the weekend then I am more than entitled.

Her view is that I should think about her and spend time with her.

What is the GetBigger play here?

You should limit your drinking to two or three beers and she should nag less and fellate more if her guy is stressed.  Try couples therapy if you want to keep the relationship because this isn't even about drinking by now - obviously, there's a whole ego/independence/contol/resentment shitstorm a-brewin.

But 'we're thinking about breaking up' usually means you've had a relationship zombie lurching around for the last 6 months.  These rarely come back to life ime.

[Tapeworm]

Also

HEY YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT PAIN STRESS IS!!!

[Captain Equipoise]

He says he likes to drink on the weekends or when he's stressed. So it's 2+ times a week. Sometimes it's a 6 pack, sometimes it's not, and sometimes he can go weeks without drinking (so he says)...basically it's more than a weekend thing.

This ain't Germany, this is America where people like to over indulge...there is no sense of moderation here...I'm telling you, this will be the scenario, if it hasn't already happened. He drinks, gets drunk, either at home or a bar...his woman gets mad, they get into a argument, and he hits her. She calls the police, he gets arrested, and he may spend a night or nights in jail. Then the job gets whiff of it, he is now known as a drunk and a woman beater...this leads to more drinking...and so it snowballs.

Let's not even go into catching a DUI, or hitting someone while drinking and driving. Let's not go into getting into the losing end of a barfight...

LOL, way to map out the guy's life with your projectiions, for all we know he has a few beer's on the weekends to relax like most people, ever go to a bbq? did you have a few cold ones? you guys are all making him out to be some psychotic alcoholic, lol how many of you know the dude in real life? EXACTLY then STFU and calm down Gloria, it's not that serious!

[#1 Klaus fan]

But 'we're thinking about breaking up' usually means you've had a relationship zombie lurching around for the last 6 months.  These rarely come back to life ime.

Yes! Like everything else in life, relationship mirrors the (subconscious) thoughts. Do or do not, there is no try. If you hesitate, it's game over.

[Dr Dutch]

Dutch saying: "geen handvol, maar een land vol"
I wonder what that gives after google-translation.

[Parker]

LOL, way to map out the guy's life with your projectiions, for all we know he has a few beer's on the weekends to relax like most people, ever go to a bbq? did you have a few cold ones? you guys are all making him out to be some psychotic alcoholic, lol how many of you know the dude in real life? EXACTLY then STFU and calm down Gloria, it's not that serious!

I have to deal with "couple beers" guys---the ones whose jobs really stressful...
One dude had the "couple beers", and to make a long story short, by the end of the night his career in a top branch of the government was OVER.

As you said, he may only drink on the weekends, but he said 2+times a week....and as we know drinkers or alcoholics always underestimate their drinks. 1=3, 2=5, and so on. If he drinking due to his job, he may want to find another one or another way to relieve stress---he is on a bbing site.

If a dude puts it on here, and states his woman is harping on him, that's a red flag. I deal wth too many of these situations, day in and day out, same scenario. I believe in erring on the side of caution. But, I give it to people straight---100 proof.

Just smoke the herb, and he'll be straight.

[rccs]

What's the all this "weed" advice, over beer... lol fucking gay1

[Parker]

What's the all this "weed" advice, over beer... lol fucking gay1

Weed will calm your ass down quicker than beer. Plus, I never heard of a dudes fighting while lit up on the herb...you chill on the weed...and if the woman starts getting angry, you laugh at her...

[George Whorewell]

Start doing cocaine. It really takes the edge off. You'll be fine.

[DroppingPlates]

Dutch saying: "geen handvol, maar een land vol"
I wonder what that gives after google-translation.

Ask Weerd Gilders, he knows

[pellius]

LOL..nice Pellius.  My take on it is that you shouldn't use an excuse.  You do it because you want to.  I hear excuses all of the time in this drug court shit from other people when they "relapse"  .  Oh my dog died, I had a bad day at work, My wife/husband pissed me off.  Fuck that...you do it cuz you want to...there are no valid excuses for needing to get high or drunk.

Pellius = Pride-Honor-Respect

Thanks for the props.

Why do we do anything? Because we want to and we want to because there is a reason we want to. We life weights because we want to look better, be stronger, be healthier. That's our excuse.

Some like to have a few beers or blaze just to relax or unwind a bit. Why is that less of a reason than someone who unwinds shooting traps, having a bag of cookies or watching internet porn?

There's a difference between getting consistently smashed and getting comfortably buzzed of some beer, wine or weed on the weekends. All of life is a matter of degrees.

Some jobs and life styles are stressful? Why is that not a valid reason or excuse to unwind? A previous poster mentioned that maybe the problem is the job. Get another job. Just because a job is demanding doesn't mean you are not fulfilled by it. Would he say the same thing if his child said that  college is very hard and stressful?

I remember Bill Bennett got reamed because it was found out he liked to gamble. But he always had it under control, never got into debt and never "used the lunch money." Rush got reamed for using pain pills to deal with his skull being sawed open to treat a medical condition. It had no adverse effect on either his private or public life. I didn't see the big deal. 

As long as it isn't adversely affecting someone's life people should mind their own business. We all need something to cope and relax. That's why a lot of people smoke. As far as I can see this guy isn't an alcoholic. He's not beating his girl friend or driving drunk. Yeah, maybe he should do something that's better for him. We should all just do things that are intrinsically good for us. We should all be perfect.

Brah, down a few for me this weekend. Relax a bit. Monday is tomorrow and it starts all over again. And again, and again, and again... until we die. Tell the frau to chill. Things could be worse. I'm sure you over look some of her habits that annoy you. If and when she finds the perfect man whose every action, habit and behavior pleases her then I'm sure she'll let you know.
 

[Captain Equipoise]

Start doing cocaine. It really takes the edge off. You'll be fine.

LOL!!! I heard meth is even better!   

[doison]

He says he likes to drink on the weekends or when he's stressed. So it's 2+ times a week. Sometimes it's a 6 pack, sometimes it's not, and sometimes he can go weeks without drinking (so he says)...basically it's more than a weekend thing.

This ain't Germany, this is America where people like to over indulge...there is no sense of moderation here...I'm telling you, this will be the scenario, if it hasn't already happened. He drinks, gets drunk, either at home or a bar...his woman gets mad, they get into a argument, and he hits her. She calls the police, he gets arrested, and he may spend a night or nights in jail. Then the job gets whiff of it, he is now known as a drunk and a woman beater...this leads to more drinking...and so it snowballs.

Let's not even go into catching a DUI, or hitting someone while drinking and driving. Let's not go into getting into the losing end of a barfight...

Jesus Christ you're an annoying little patsy.  It's fucking beer. 

"this is America where people like to over indulge" 
Are you seriously equating a couple of beers a week with "overindulgence?"  After years of seeing every member of getbig pretend to be a muscle-bound millionaire pussy slaying polymath, I can honestly say that this is the first time I've ever been absolutely fucking certain that someone would never get within a mile of any of those traits.

I can just imagine the frightened stare as you stand there in a frozen panic, imagining your future downward spiral into addiction, after a buddy offers you a sniffer of blow at some office party....

How many "office safety" teams are you on?  Seriously? 

[Cliff Clavin]

yea the boys down at the pub always tell there wives they only had a few...

[obtuse_waiter]

just dont call her for 2 weeks

that chills em out

[wes]

   
   
Re: Is it worth your soul?
« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2011, 06:49:34 AM »
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Quote from: wes on April 17, 2011, 06:01:48 AM
Good post Parks........this guy`s using stress and his job as an excuse to get fucked up.

Nothing good ever came from excessive drinking other than a buzz.............at your doorbell from the cops!!

Quote from: outby43:

You sound like one of those ex-addicts that tells everyone else that uses alcohol/drugs that they are addicts and then proceed with the whole psychological breakdown.  I am court ordered to go to NA meetings every week so I know the routine.  I got busted with weed.  I am not a drug addict but do enjoy getting high every once in a while.  From what you had wrote in another thread you used to have many addictions.  That doesn't mean this dude does.  But your right...he probably is a fucking drunk ...lol.

In real life,I never preach to anyone about booze or drugs...I hate reformed addicts/drunks who push sobriety on people.

If you`re fucked up,you`ll either recover,or you won`t.

Getting fucked up is OK with me,not that I do it anymore, but once you let it take over your life,your life is over.

To my buddy pellius,no excuses needed to do anything in life bro,but excuses and reasons are classic lines from alcoholics,not from social drinkers looking to get a buzz to simply unwind/relax,or de-stress.

Fucking quote function not working for me!! 

[Parker]

Jesus Christ you're an annoying little patsy.  It's fucking beer. 

"this is America where people like to over indulge" 
Are you seriously equating a couple of beers a week with "overindulgence?"  After years of seeing every member of getbig pretend to be a muscle-bound millionaire pussy slaying polymath, I can honestly say that this is the first time I've ever been absolutely fucking certain that someone would never get within a mile of any of those traits.

I can just imagine the frightened stare as you stand there in a frozen panic, imagining your future downward spiral into addiction, after a buddy offers you a sniffer of blow at some office party....

How many "office safety" teams are you on?  Seriously? 

Whoa there Ranger Rick,
I see this shit day in and day out, and I deal with the eff ups and the "few beers" (ever notice everybody only has a 'few beers', especially after slapping around the old lady?).

Now, dude makes a thread on here, with the title "is it worth your soul?" and says he does 2+ days week on liquid, and he didn't say ..because he says his job is stressful....and his woman nags him....classic case. What is a "couple" to you? A six pack, two six packs?
This ain't knocking back a beer to relax, this is using  beer to "escape" from the the stress of a job....and in comes the woman telling him that he is drinking too much...ya know, maybe, just maybe she could be right...or wrong...Three sides to every story, yours, mine and the truth...look at shit for what it is, not for what you want it to be. I hear this mess too often...

Remember Ranger Rick, your distant genetic cousin would say, "where there is smoke there is fire".

[ricorico]

Tell her to fook off and come to Ireland!
Fookin' 6 bottles of beer constitutes an issue to some of you fags on here?

that's a fookin' warm-up before hittin' the pub!

the US needs to drop the therapy bulls**t abd start living!!!

[rccs]

Tell her to fook off and come to Ireland!
Fookin' 6 bottles of beer constitutes an issue to some of you fags on here?

that's a fookin' warm-up before hittin' the pub!

the US needs to drop the therapy bulls**t abd start living!!!

That's what we are talking about!

[Cliff Clavin]

whole thread boils down to does this lad get into a vehicle and drive his wee self home after drinking 6+ pints of the bevy...if so the wanker needs more than a lashin from the miss...

[Natural Man]

drug use always covers one or several underlying non adressed psychological trauma(s). The habit to drink or smoke is also often genetical. The real question is how does it help improve your survival. Drinking slowly destroys your body, your mental strength over time and as the OP stated it, your relationships.

We re not judging him for attempting to cope with unresolved problems, we all need to do so to survive, to get rid -when possible- of what is wrong with us, we often inherited in our past. We re just mostly saying he could find another, healthier habit to cope with the stress. And maybe he should question himself about the real reasons why he's drinking . What is he trying to forget / to repress. Lot of men think that just because they have a job it means they have no problems. They re human like everyone else. They re not just a body, and a job.
Actually his girl looks like she's caring about him -his survival-.

We all have problems, that's how we deal with them that varies from an individual to another. Destroying yourself or others when you could do the oposite -which is a lot tougher- is when it's a problem for everyone else.