Author Topic: Whats your Max dumbbell press (Read 30919 times)

Per Se...its not a matter of being strong, its a matter of claiming natural and hitting numbers that guys that juice AND outweigh him by 100#'s are hitting.

Why lie?

Yes YG is very strong....at 210 he can pull 585. I know someone who is 19, natural and recently pulled that in a powerlifting meet...and he weighs 180lbs.

Just because YG or Meso or whoever is stronger than the norm, it doesnt automatically make them liars...regarding being drug free.

I'll be honest I do see quite a lot of ppl that have great genes in my gym, and I'm sure if all of them were to post on getbig, urself, gh15, sevastae etc would go into cardiac arrest. And im not even talking about freaks, just guys with good genetics, who also train very hard. For example today i saw this kid, Ghanaian, only about 175, 5'7" but RIPPED, and he benched 315 for an easy 2. i was very impressed. My good friend who has been training for about 6 yrs, 5'7", has a small frame, but has 19" guns....he's 190lbs. his arms are better than pretty much everyones in the gym, including juicers who outweigh him by 60lbs. benches 365 for a few reps...he has a twin brother who is an inch taller and maybe 15 pounds heavier, he benches 405. these are just a couple of examples that i see everyday.

at the risk of turning this into a racial thing, but i notice all the getbig posters who call ppl liars etc all seem to be white and probably live in white places. I reckon there is a disproportionate amount ppl of west african/Caribbean origion, with very good genes, and as u guys dnt see this on a daily basis, it does make u kinda ignorant to certain truths....and makes u focus too much on gh15's natural limit principles.

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #211 on:** April 25, 2011, 01:38:21 PM »

lol@PerSe

another guy who knows some guy at the gym etc etc

Hulkotron · « **Reply #212 on:** April 25, 2011, 01:43:41 PM »

Quote from: Cleanest Natural on April 25, 2011, 01:38:21 PM

lol@PerSe

another guy who knows some guy at the gym etc etc

"My good friend who has Pro-size arms at 190 lbs".

Ursus · « **Reply #213 on:** April 25, 2011, 01:59:04 PM »

Lots of angry people in this thread.

I could train all my life, best coaches, best diet and best training and still probaly never break 10.7 in the 100m. Same way some people are just bigger or stronger naturally than other people.

chaos · « **Reply #214 on:** April 25, 2011, 02:00:09 PM »

LMFAO!

Per Se · « **Reply #215 on:** April 25, 2011, 02:49:56 PM »

Quote from: Cleanest Natural on April 25, 2011, 01:38:21 PM

lol@PerSe

another guy who knows some guy at the gym etc etc

Thanks for proving my point...YOU don't see it, so you don't believe it.
It begs the question, what is the maximum arm size a 5'7" 190lb natural trainer can have? What's acceptable for you...SERIOUS question.

BILL ANVIL · « **Reply #216 on:** April 25, 2011, 02:54:23 PM »

gh15s belief that everybody has the same frame size and genetic limitations isn't very believable.

gh15 · « **Reply #217 on:** April 25, 2011, 03:57:20 PM »

Quote from: BILL ANVIL on April 25, 2011, 02:54:23 PM

gh15s belief that everybody has the same frame size and genetic limitations isn't very believable.

no! ,,not everyone has same frame size,,NEVER SAID THAT,,some big boned people especialy americanos,,some with small bone,,some with balonie bone,,some with no bone,,some people large some peeople smalle,,but you are new here or not dont matter,, i say if refering to gh15 you first rread bible ,,gh15 doesnt like to answer same thing over and over even though does it for benefit of upcoming bodybuild,,

the frame size give max 10lb of difference bwteen heaviest individual and lightest one,,max 10 lb ...the rest is fatttttttttttttttttttttt ttttttt and waterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrr,,

now,,to the question above,, 5'7 will never be 190lb naturaly that sthe problelm you got here,,he wil be if he is 18% bodyfat or over,,then yes...
so....if 5'7 18% 190lb he can have a 17 inch arm mesured while flexing,,ofcourswe this arm is maybe 15.5 inches when sub 10% and in reality the 5'7 fella will also be 155-165 lb while at this bodyfat and mesurment,,

so yes a true 190 5'7 arm size if gifted and has nice muscle shape and nice beautiful bone

his arm size iwl be 16 inches in good wet pumpy flexy kinda day ,,when all compasses sit right and the sun is shining,,

15.5 -16.5 inches arm ,,walk on stage with 15 inch arms at5-6% if shredded naturaly

now ! this is the truth in your face,,not nice to hear but! the truth!

gh15 approved

gh15 · « **Reply #218 on:** April 25, 2011, 04:00:34 PM »

and for the ursus fella,, no there are no numbers you talk abotu as natural ,,,thee are liars who will sit on internet all day long to spit liars because they want to be blieved as naturals,,remember there are liars who sit among us who claim natural like faildo,,kyoshoo,, skippy and jeff ,,nortom and ifbb pro the brother sanches i mean rodrizez...

they all claim naturals....they all sit and lie ,,they even make some money off bodybuild,,THEY SWIMMMM IN HORMONES,,infact not only swim in hormones but in many cases take more stuff than top npc competitors ,,

it is a shame,,but everyone knows it today BECAUSE gh15 was kind enough to lead the way for over half a decade and explain the situation so now day those fellas are laughed at rather than respected!

gh15 approved

Per Se · « **Reply #219 on:** April 25, 2011, 04:04:19 PM »

Quote from: gh15 on April 25, 2011, 03:57:20 PM

no! ,,not everyone has same frame size,,NEVER SAID THAT,,some big boned people especialy americanos,,some with small bone,,some with balonie bone,,some with no bone,,some people large some peeople smalle,,but you are new here or not dont matter,, i say if refering to gh15 you first rread bible ,,gh15 doesnt like to answer same thing over and over even though does it for benefit of upcoming bodybuild,,

the frame size give max 10lb of difference bwteen heaviest individual and lightest one,,max 10 lb ...the rest is fatttttttttttttttttttttt ttttttt and waterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrr,,

now,,to the question above,, 5'7 will never be 190lb naturaly that sthe problelm you got here,,he wil be if he is 18% bodyfat or over,,then yes...
so....if 5'7 18% 190lb he can have a 17 inch arm mesured while flexing,,ofcourswe this arm is maybe 15.5 inches when sub 10% and in reality the 5'7 fella will also be 155-165 lb while at this bodyfat and mesurment,,

so yes a true 190 5'7 arm size if gifted and has nice muscle shape and nice beautiful bone his arm size iwl be 16 inches in good wet pumpy flexy kinda day ,,when all compasses sit right and the sun is shining,,

15.5 -16.5 inches arm ,,walk on stage with 15 inch arms at5-6% if shredded naturaly

now ! this is the truth in your face,,not nice to hear but! the truth!

gh15 approved

What u just wrote is fucking bullshit.

gh15 · « **Reply #220 on:** April 25, 2011, 04:07:32 PM »

Quote from: Per Se on April 25, 2011, 04:04:19 PM

What u just wrote is fucking bullshit.

no what i just wrote is REALITY IN YOUR FACE,,because i train those naturals and they are getting pro cards,, 6'2 4.5% 194lb 16 inch arm ...getting his pro card,,

another 5'7 150 lb 5% 15.25 inch arms best shape small bone extomorph from indonisia,,,getting his pro card naturally

those are the numbers my friend,,the numbers of TRUE NATURALS not liar mother fuckin disgusting liars like you and the shit stains in this thread and bodybuild in general now day

gh15 approved

gh15 · « **Reply #221 on:** April 25, 2011, 04:09:55 PM »

Quote from: Per Se on April 25, 2011, 04:04:19 PM

What u just wrote is fucking bullshit.

you have NO IDEA what you are talking about,,the numbers you give here,,the shit you talk about,,the crazy claims,,you have absolitly no idea what true natural pro is,,you fellas are LIARS,, naturals in great shape at 5'7 dont even see the number 16 inch in arm mesurements,, try to get 5% naturally ...even the 1 tall fella i was talking about got to 4.5 because he did something but i stil consider it naturaly ,,

you fella have no clue absilitly no clue,, you think i will sit here and just say stuff with out knowing ? i fuckin make my living off this shit

gh15 approved

Hulkotron · « **Reply #222 on:** April 25, 2011, 04:17:04 PM »

The thing to remember about gh15 is that he's always talking about dudes who are like 6% bodyfat.

chaos · « **Reply #223 on:** April 25, 2011, 06:04:18 PM »

I think some people in this thread have lost site of what is probable for a natural vs juiced.

Ursus · « **Reply #224 on:** April 25, 2011, 06:20:47 PM »

I am not trying to be confrontational but I am basing this on what i can do, I have good genetics for size and strength. The best? Noway but I would say I am in the top 5% of genetics for both size and strength.

Author Topic: Whats your Max dumbbell press (Read 30919 times)

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