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« Reply #250 on: May 02, 2011, 01:50:03 PM »
Arabs Riot in Jerusalem Over Bin Laden's Demise, Hamas Angry
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Arabs in the village of Silwan, adjacent to the City of David neighborhood in Jerusalem, rioted Monday night in protest over the elimination of Osama Bin-Laden. The rioters were throwing stones at police and attempting to block roads.

While most of the free world praised the United States for having rid it of arch-terrorist Bin Laden, the Hamas organization - which has recently all but merged with Fatah, headed by Mahmoud Abbas - condemned the act.

The Gaza-based website Al Qassam reports that Gaza leader Ismail Haniyeh, the head of the local Hamas chapter that runs Gaza, told reporters on Monday that Bin Laden was an "Arab holy warrior."

Meeting with journalists in his office in Gaza City, Haniyeh said, "If this news [of Bin Laden's killing] is true, then this means that it is part of the American policy based on the oppression and bloodshed in the Muslim and Arab world."

Haniyeh expressed his strong condemnation for the killing or assassination of Bin Laden, whom he referred to as "Mujahed" - someone in engaged in jihad, holy war against infidels. He said he was praying for mercy for Bin Laden.

Hamas reached a "reconciliation" agreement with Fatah last week, calling for the formation of a joint interim government in the coming days, and preparations for elections a year from now throughout Judea, Samaria and Gaza. The agreement was hailed by most left-wing and anti-Israel organizations, but even President Shimon Peres, a strong supporter of a two-state solution and the Oslo process, said, "Israel would like to see the Palestinian people become united for peace - [but] this is not an agreement, this is a split. Hamas is a recognized terrorist organization. According to this agreement Hamas doesn't have to change their charter that calls for the destruction of Israel, they can continue to shoot at us as they did when firing [last month] on a yellow school bus [and murdering a teenager]. Hamas is a branch of Iran -  Iran, Hamas and Hizbullah want a union for war..."


LMAO..This is fucking low

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Re: Bin Laden dead.
« Reply #251 on: May 02, 2011, 01:51:06 PM »
they didn't mention the crowd size. 

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« Reply #252 on: May 02, 2011, 01:55:38 PM »
Senior Official on Bin Laden Compound: ‘We Were Shocked By What We Saw’
CNSNews ^ | May 2, 2011 | Terence P. Jeffrey




(CNSNews.com) - A senior administration official providing the “details on the intelligence background” of the raid that killed al Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden said that when U.S. intelligence officials first discovered the compound in Pakistan where they believed bin Laden was living they “were shocked” by what they saw.


U.S. intelligence agencies found the compound after years of following a trail that began with information they gleaned from “post-9/11 period” al Qaeda detainees, the official said in a conference call briefing held by the White House shortly after midnight. The transcript of the briefing was posted on the White House website.


The first step on the trail was information about a courier, who had been a protégé of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11 attacks.


“Detainees also identified this man as one of the few al Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden,” the senior administration official said. “They indicated he might be living with and protecting bin Laden.”


After first positively identifying this courier and then ultimately discovering the unusual compound where he and his brother lived in Abbottabad, Pakistan, U.S. intelligence officials believed they may well have discovered the hiding place of Osama bin Laden.


“When we saw the compound where the brothers lived, we were shocked by what we saw--an extraordinarily unique compound,” said the senior administration official.


Here is the part of the White House transcript in which a senior administration official explains how the discovery was made:


Senior Administration Official: Thank you.


The bottom line of our collection and our analysis was that we had high confidence that the compound harbored a high-value terrorist target. The experts who worked this issue for years assessed that there was a strong probability that the terrorist that was hiding there was Osama bin Laden.


What I’d like to do is walk you through the key points in that intelligence trail that led us to that conclusion.


From the time that we first recognized bin Laden as a threat, the CIA gathered leads on individuals in bin Laden’s inner circle, including his personal couriers. Detainees in the post-9/11 period flagged for us individuals who may have been providing direct support to bin Laden and his deputy, Zawahiri, after their escape from Afghanistan.


One courier in particular had our constant attention. Detainees gave us his nom de guerre or his nickname and identified him as both a protégé of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of September 11th, and a trusted assistant of Abu Faraj al-Libbi, the former number three of al Qaeda who was captured in 2005.


Detainees also identified this man as one of the few al Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden. They indicated he might be living with and protecting bin Laden. But for years, we were unable to identify his true name or his location.


Four years ago, we uncovered his identity, and for operational reasons, I can’t go into details about his name or how we identified him, but about two years ago, after months of persistent effort, we identified areas in Pakistan where the courier and his brother operated. Still we were unable to pinpoint exactly where they lived, due to extensive operational security on their part. The fact that they were being so careful reinforced our belief that we were on the right track.


Then in August 2010, we found their residence, a compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, a town about 35 miles north of Islamabad. The area is relatively affluent, with lots of retired military. It’s also insolated from the natural disasters and terrorist attacks that have afflicted other parts of Pakistan. When we saw the compound where the brothers lived, we were shocked by what we saw -- an extraordinarily unique compound. The compound sits on a large plot of land in an area that was relatively secluded when it was built. It is roughly eight times larger than the other homes in the area.


When the compound was built in 2005, it was on the outskirts of the town center, at the end of a narrow dirt road. In the last six years, some residential homes have been built nearby. The physical security measures of the compound are extraordinary. It has 12- to 18-foot walls topped with barbed wire. Internal wall sections -- internal walls sectioned off different portions of the compound to provide extra privacy. Access to the compound is restricted by two security gates, and the residents of the compound burn their trash, unlike their neighbors, who put the trash out for collection.


The main structure, a three-story building, has few windows facing the outside of the compound. A terrace on the third floor has a seven-foot wall privacy--has a seven-foot privacy wall.


It’s also noteworthy that the property is valued at approximately $1 million but has no telephone or Internet service connected to it. The brothers had no explainable source of wealth.


Intelligence analysts concluded that this compound was custom built to hide someone of significance. We soon learned that more people were living at the compound than the two brothers and their families. A third family lived there--one whose size and whose makeup matched the bin Laden family members that we believed most likely to be with Osama bin Laden. Our best assessment, based on a large body of reporting from multiple sources, was that bin Laden was living there with several family members, including his youngest wife.


Everything we saw--the extremely elaborate operational security, the brothers’ background and their behavior, and the location and the design of the compound itself was perfectly consistent with what our experts expected bin Laden’s hideout to look like. Keep in mind that two of bin Laden’s gatekeepers, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Faraj al-Libbi, were arrested in the settled areas of Pakistan.


Our analysts looked at this from every angle, considering carefully who other than bin Laden could be at the compound. We conducted red team exercises and other forms of alternative analysis to check our work. No other candidate fit the bill as well as bin Laden did.


So the final conclusion, from an intelligence standpoint, was twofold. We had high confidence that a high-value target was being harbored by the brothers on the compound, and we assessed that there was a strong probability that that person was Osama bin Laden.

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Re: Bin Laden dead.
« Reply #253 on: May 02, 2011, 01:59:42 PM »
awesome article man!

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« Reply #254 on: May 02, 2011, 02:01:03 PM »
Obama might also have known that this info was about to come out and wanted to avoid a potential situation with the pakis.   Better to just get Bn Laden ourselves.   

I don't believe that the pakis had anything to do with helping us get Bin Laden.....I think Obama had to say that so as not to make Pakistan look bad..I could be wrong however..I have absolutely no proof of this

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« Reply #255 on: May 02, 2011, 02:05:31 PM »
yeah... someone builds a huge million dollar compound with walls and barbed wire fences... 2 miles from a military base... and they don't know who lives there?  LMAO...

Try that shit yourself.  Biuld a defensive fort 2 miles from a military base anywhere in the world... see if they look into your ass ;)

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« Reply #256 on: May 02, 2011, 02:06:20 PM »
obama actually undermines the paki leadership by giving them credit for assisting with killing OBL.

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« Reply #257 on: May 02, 2011, 02:08:39 PM »
???

You missed those planes that flew into the buildings?  You don`t believe the thousands and thousands of witnesses on the ground and the thousands and thousands of cameras that recorded the planes flying into the buildings and the entire aftermath?


I don`t get you conspiracy theorists whatsoever.  You do everything in your power to try to NOT believe the evidence even as its waved like a big dick in your face. Religious people pull the same type of nonsense.

What the fuck are you talking about?  Of course planes hit the buildings...

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« Reply #258 on: May 02, 2011, 02:09:09 PM »
yeah... someone builds a huge million dollar compound with walls and barbed wire fences... 2 miles from a military base... and they don't know who lives there?  LMAO...

Try that shit yourself.  Biuld a defensive fort 2 miles from a military base anywhere in the world... see if they look into your ass ;)

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« Reply #259 on: May 02, 2011, 02:12:40 PM »
So are the 911 truthers still comvinced bush did it? 

Wonder if the Bush family is in morning considering their families relationship with the Bin Laden's? ???

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« Reply #260 on: May 02, 2011, 02:15:24 PM »
Wonder if the Bush family is in morning considering their families relationship with the Bin Laden's? ???

Osama Bin Laden was ostracized from the Bin Laden family long ago. (Or so they say)

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« Reply #261 on: May 02, 2011, 02:27:10 PM »
Cindy Sheehan: ‘If you believe the newest death of OBL, you’re stupid.’
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Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011


Cindy Sheehan: ‘If you believe the newest death of OBL, you’re stupid.’ May 2, 2011 2:00 P.M. By Jim Geraghty

Tags: Cindy Sheehan, Maureen Dowd

Maureen Dowd, back in August 2005:

Cindy Sheehan, a 48-year-old Californian with a knack for P.R., says she will camp out in the dusty heat near the ranch until she gets to tell Mr. Bush face to face that he must pull all U.S. troops out of Iraq. Her son, Casey, a 24-year-old Army specialist, was killed in a Sadr City ambush last year…

Selectively humane, Mr. Bush justified his Iraq war by stressing the 9/11 losses. He emphasized the humanity of the Iraqis who desire freedom when his W.M.D. rationale vaporized.

But his humanitarianism will remain inhumane as long as he fails to understand that the moral authority of parents who bury children killed in Iraq is absolute.

Cindy Sheehan, today:

I am sorry, but if you believe the newest death of OBL, you’re stupid. Just think to yourself–they paraded Saddam’s dead sons around to prove they were dead–why do you suppose they hastily buried this version of OBL at sea? This lying, murderous Empire can only exist with your brainwashed consent–just put your flags away and THINK!

I have a hard time bearing much ill will toward Sheehan, no matter how nonsensical or inane her utterances get; who knows what the depths of grief can do to a parent’s mind? The widespread politicization of the grief, and the notion of the worst event in your life suddenly turning you into a celebrity with admirers, probably spurs one to react in strange ways.

But the degree to which the “anti-war” crowd — who today applaud war kinetic military action against Libya without congressional approval, and who are today applauding unilateral military action on foreign soil without the host government’s knowledge or consent or U.N. approval — exploited Ms. Sheehan remains unforgivably appalling. They lost interest in Sheehan right about the moment she ran against Nancy Pelosi for Congress.

I wonder if Maureen Dowd will ever reconsider that 2005 declaration in print.

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« Reply #262 on: May 02, 2011, 02:28:56 PM »
Fuck Cindy Sheehan.

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« Reply #263 on: May 02, 2011, 02:35:10 PM »

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« Reply #264 on: May 02, 2011, 02:36:11 PM »
It was two miles from pakistan's version of West Point.
Pakistan is one tightly controlled police state.
Govt knows everything that goes on in the cities.

Insane to think two couriers with no income could build a million dollar fortified compound in a neighborhood filled with retired military officers, and nobody noticed a thing.

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« Reply #265 on: May 02, 2011, 02:38:30 PM »
Wikileaks already pakis were in on this.   

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« Reply #266 on: May 02, 2011, 02:39:05 PM »
The same "dead Osama" picture was used way back in 2009. Shameful what america is about...sadder part is no one seems to be able to accept this fact. Here in THE PEOPLE'S VOICE in April 2009 was an article about a supposed dead Osama with the exact same pic shown Sunday on CNN and various other 24 hour news agencies.

Osama Bin Laden Believed Dead By Pak Intel
April 29th, 2009

The Media Line



Arch-terrorist Osama Bin Laden "may have been killed", since there is little information to suggest he is alive, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari said on Monday.

Neither Pakistani nor American intelligence experts have detected traces of Bin Laden since the Qatar-based Al-Jazeera aired an audio recording of his voice in March, Zardari said, and even that recording has not been confirmed as Bin Laden’s voice.

Zardari said his advisers believed there was substance to the rumors of his death, but he could not confirm this.

There have been several reports over the last few years suggesting Bin Laden, 52, could be dead, and others regarding his ailing health.

None of the reports have been substantiated.

It is believed the terror chief is hiding in the mountainous region that straddles the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

U.S. State Department Spokesman Robert Wood said the U.S. had "no information" as to whether Bin Laden was dead or alive. “We will continue to hunt Osama Bin Laden until we can capture him or bring justice to him,” Wood said.

An editorial in the London-based Al-Quds Al-‘Arabi suggested that whoever leaked the rumor of his death wanted to prompt Bin Laden to produce a new video to prove he was still alive.

“They hope this will provide more information on his whereabouts or hideout, which will help bring about his arrest.”

Zardari’s comments could also be a message to the U.S. that the mastermind behind terrorism in Pakistan is in fact not alive, Al-Quds Al-‘Arabi said.

The U.S. has been pressuring Islamabad to take tougher measures against terrorism within its border.

However, the editorial’s author believes rumors of his death are premature.

“The death of the Al-Qa’ida leader is not so far-fetched, and he will depart at some point, whether as a result of a disease, an assassination or in clashes with the numerous intelligence agencies around the world that are pursuing him” the editorial said.

“But if he dies, it will be announced officially by the organization, the same way they already announced the deaths of several lower-level leaders.”

An official announcement of his death has to be made, he wrote, in order to solve legal issues such as inheritance laws and the legal status of the widow.

There is increasing concern in the international community that terrorists such as those in Bin Laden’s Al-Qa’ida organization and the hard-line Taliban will get their hands on Pakistan’s nuclear weapons.

Last week, the Taliban managed to reach an area located approximately 100 kilometers from the capital Islamabad before being repelled.

Zardari ruled out the possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of the Taliban.

“The nuclear capability of Pakistan is in safe hands,” he said.

The Pakistani government said the Taliban had completely withdrawn from the district, but reports quoting local eyewitnesses said Taliban fighters were still present on the ground.

The Pakistan army killed 46 Taliban fighters over the past two days in northwest Pakistan’s Lower Dir district.

The Taliban is warning it will attack government forces in the North West Frontier Province (NWFP) if the government does not stop its offensive.

The Taliban has suspended talks with the provincial government in the wake of the clashes.

The government in NWFP struck a deal with the Taliban under which Islamic Law, or Shari’a would be introduced to the area in return for a suspension in Taliban hostilities.

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2009/04/29/osama-bin-laden-believed-dead-by-pak-int
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« Reply #267 on: May 02, 2011, 02:40:02 PM »
It was two miles from pakistan's version of West Point.
Pakistan is one tightly controlled police state.
Govt knows everything that goes on in the cities.

Insane to think two couriers with no income could build a million dollar fortified compound in a neighborhood filled with retired military officers, and nobody noticed a thing.


I've been saying it for close to 5 years now; Pakistan's ISI is a terrorist organization, is hiding all the Al Qaeda high command is the main reason we're still in Afghanistan. We need to stop sending Pakistan $3+ billion a year as they're doing nothing but killing our soldiers with it. Fucking scumbag terrorist state.

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« Reply #268 on: May 02, 2011, 02:41:22 PM »
I'm down with taking out the Pakistani PM.

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« Reply #269 on: May 02, 2011, 02:42:28 PM »
In Pakistan, an embarrassed silence on killing of bin Laden (They got caught hiding him)
msnbc ^ | 5/2/2011 | nbc




Pakistan faced enormous embarrassment Monday after Osama bin Laden was killed by U.S. Special Forces, raising questions over whether its military and intelligence were too incompetent to catch him themselves or knew all along where he was hiding.

The killing of the world's most-wanted man in a house just a few hundred meters from Pakistan's version of the West Point military academy will only fuel suspicions that the country has been playing a double-game over Islamist militants and al-Qaida.

Analysts say it would be a stretch to believe Pakistan's spy agency did not know bin Laden was living in a town just a couple of hours up the road from Islamabad: If it did know, the country was essentially caught red-handed shielding him from capture.

"There will be a lot of tension between Washington and Islamabad because bin Laden seems to have been living here close to Islamabad," said Imtiaz Gul, a Pakistani security analyst. "This is a serious blow to the credibility of Pakistan."

Pakistan must prove to the United States that it did not know bin Laden was hiding there, a top U.S. lawmaker said.

"This is going to be a time of real pressure" on Pakistan "to basically prove to us that they didn't know that bin Laden was there," Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Joseph Lieberman said at a news conference.


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« Reply #270 on: May 02, 2011, 02:43:50 PM »
Pakistan can redeem themselves by handing over the heads of every member of the Al Qaeda high command as well as the heads of the Taliban's leadership council.

However, they'll probably take the logical Muslim approach and blow some people up.

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« Reply #271 on: May 02, 2011, 02:44:38 PM »

Pakistan can redeem themselves by handing over the heads of every member of the Al Qaeda high command as well as the heads of the Taliban's leadership council.

You know that won't happen... Fucking shit stains.

Fuck Pakistan.

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« Reply #272 on: May 02, 2011, 02:45:57 PM »
Report: Bin Laden’s Compound Was Once An ISI Safe House…

Dubai: The compound in Abbottabad where Osama Bin Laden was killed was once used as a safe house by Pakistan’s premier intelligence agency ISI, Gulf News has learnt.

“This area had been used as ISI’s safe house, but it was not under their use any more because they keep on changing their locations,” a senior intelligence official confided to Gulf News. However, he did not reveal when and for how long it was used by the ISI operatives. Another official cautiously said “it may not be the same house but the same compound or area used by the ISI”.

The official also confirmed that the house was rented out by Afghan nationals and is not owned by the government. The house is located just 800 metres away from the Pakistan Military Academy and some former senior military officials live nearby.

Abbottabad is a garrison town located just 50 kilometres north of Islamabad and it is a popular summer resort, originally built by the British during colonial rule. The city houses a number of upscale educational institutions and religious schools as well.

http://gulfnews.com/news/world/other-world/compound-in-pakistan-was-once-a-safe-house-1.802539



Hahahahaha. All falling into place now. There was no fucking way in hell these guys can avoid the CIA and other operators in Pakistan for 10 years without the ISI helping to hide them.

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« Reply #273 on: May 02, 2011, 02:47:39 PM »
AP: CIA Secret Prisons and “Harsh Interrogation Tactics” Developed First Strands That Led to Bin Laden

WASHINGTON (AP) — Officials say CIA interrogators in secret overseas prisons developed the first strands of information that ultimately led to the killing of Osama bin Laden.

Current and former U.S. officials say that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, provided the nom de guerre of one of bin Laden’s most trusted aides. The CIA got similar information from Mohammed’s successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi. Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania.

The news is sure to reignite debate over whether the now-closed interrogation and detention program was successful. Former president George W. Bush authorized the CIA to use the harshest interrogation tactics in U.S. history. President Barack Obama closed the prison system.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/121089124.html


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« Reply #274 on: May 02, 2011, 02:47:50 PM »
I've been saying it for close to 5 years now; Pakistan's ISI is a terrorist organization, is hiding all the Al Qaeda high command is the main reason we're still in Afghanistan. We need to stop sending Pakistan $3+ billion a year as they're doing nothing but killing our soldiers with it. Fucking scumbag terrorist state.

their top general sent 100k to head 911 hijacker Atta... 4 days before the 911 attacks.  Did you know that?  

The fact it was played on cspan during the 911 investigation, but scrubbed from the transcript... wow, ain't that some shit?  

Look it up.  Bush wanted no part of investigating that.  Suddenly it went from a small group of nutjobs to state sponsored terrorism.