Bin Laden dead.

[Fury]

I'm just tired of all the god damn bullshit... I feel like everyone is fucking crazy.

I don't think it's so much crazy as it is stupid. This board (and the rest of the internet, for that matter) is crawling with morons like Mr. "I don't know dick about Islam but I know beyond a shadow-of-a-doubt that OBL's wife capped him, one of the most devout and pious Muslims on the planet".

[240 is Back]

33,

do you stand by your CT that obama is intentionally trying to sink the US economy for his NWO warlords?

[tu_holmes]

I don't think it's so much crazy as it is stupid. This board (and the rest of the internet, for that matter) is crawling with morons like Mr. "I don't know dick about Islam but I know beyond a shadow-of-a-doubt that OBL's wife capped him, one of the most devout and pious Muslims on the planet".

If it's really stupid and not crazy, then the world is screwed, and it's certainly not Bin Laden or even Obama that are the problems... It's people who pull fucking stupid ass hollywood story lines out of their asses and claim them as fact when having absolutely not a fucking piece of evidence to support it.

[240 is Back]

but I know beyond a shadow-of-a-doubt

where did I write that?

I think it's a possibility he would rather take his own life than be captured.
And now, we know he heard choppers landing in his yard and gunfighting on floors 1 and 2 before they got to his door.

We know he wasn't splattered with rounds to the torso, it was a precision shot to eye.  And he had no weapon.  I don't think it's impossible he would shoot himself.  Or his woman would do it.  

Where did I say "I know beyond a shadow-of-a-doubt", Berz?

[The True Adonis]

I don`t think 240 is trying to push any type of conspiracy theory, he is just trying to piece together events with the given information thus far.  He is not drawing any conclusions that I can see, just having some fun speculating.


There are some on here though that are blatant conspiracy theorists and they are truly dumb.  They still think Bin Laden was killed years ago or that he wasn`t killed etc..

[Fury]

If it's really stupid and not crazy, then the world is screwed, and it's certainly not Bin Laden or even Obama that are the problems... It's people who pull fucking stupid ass hollywood story lines out of their asses and claim them as fact when having absolutely not a fucking piece of evidence to support it.

The internet is the bane of humanity. It gave voices to people whose voices shouldn't be heard.

[240 is Back]

If it's really stupid and not crazy, then the world is screwed, and it's certainly not Bin Laden or even Obama that are the problems... It's people who pull fucking stupid ass hollywood story lines out of their asses and claim them as fact when having absolutely not a fucking piece of evidence to support it.

Like our govt did with jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman?

Sorry, but the second I heard we killed him, I wondered just how hollywood this romantic shotout story would be.  Sure enough, an unarmed osama cowering behind a woman, shot in the eye by a precision shot form a soldier.


Hell, any of us could have written that story.  Did he crap his pants first too?  it's like when they killed off Chef on South Park - they gave him the worst possible ending.  

I believe IF they had walked into the room and found him already dead, they may not say that.  They wouldn't give him that win, that control, that escape.  They'd take credit.  Without a fricking doubt.  

[tu_holmes]

where did I write that?

I think it's a possibility he would rather take his own life than be captured.
And now, we know he heard choppers landing in his yard and gunfighting on floors 1 and 2 before they got to his door.

We know he wasn't splattered with rounds to the torso, it was a precision shot to eye.  And he had no weapon.  I don't think it's impossible he would shoot himself.  Or his woman would do it.  

Where did I say "I know beyond a shadow-of-a-doubt", Berz?

You know what... You didn't say beyond a shadow of a doubt, but you certainly don't present your alternative as a "slight" possibility... You present it as "most likely accurate".

So you're saying that your "theory" of what went down is much more reliable than the word of the US military.

Calling the boys a bunch of liars... I will not abide by that.

Have there been lies, yes... but I will not paint the broad stroke that my military personnel who serve this country so valiantly are a crew of lying fuckups.

I won't have anyone else do it either.

[tu_holmes]

Like our govt did with jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman?

Sorry, but the second I heard we killed him, I wondered just how hollywood this romantic shotout story would be.  Sure enough, an unarmed osama cowering behind a woman, shot in the eye by a precision shot form a soldier.


Hell, any of us could have written that story.  Did he crap his pants first too?  it's like when they killed off Chef on South Park - they gave him the worst possible ending.  

I believe IF they had walked into the room and found him already dead, they may not say that.  They wouldn't give him that win, that control, that escape.  They'd take credit.  Without a fricking doubt.  

The lies that have been told... especially about Tillman were done to protect the familes... not to "get over".

Jessica Lynch was a propaganda tool.. yes... was it false... sure... but it was something that helped inspire America... Want to call it wrong... fine... A lie... ok.... but don't act like your made up shit has more truth to it... because it certainly fucking does not.

[Fury]

Like our govt did with jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman?

Sorry, but the second I heard we killed him, I wondered just how hollywood this romantic shotout story would be.  Sure enough, an unarmed osama cowering behind a woman, shot in the eye by a precision shot form a soldier.


Hell, any of us could have written that story.  Did he crap his pants first too?  it's like when they killed off Chef on South Park - they gave him the worst possible ending.  

I believe IF they had walked into the room and found him already dead, they may not say that.  They wouldn't give him that win, that control, that escape.  They'd take credit.  Without a fricking doubt.  

You act like it's this stunning revelation that one of the best soldiers on the planet managed to shoot him in the chest and face. From what I've read, they spent the longest amount of time clearing the two brothers out of the bottom of the house. After that it was bing-bang-boom, done.

[240 is Back]

Calling the boys a bunch of liars... I will not abide by that.

*I didn't say anything about "our boys"

I'm talking about Obama.  He will paint the story he wants for this.  You know this.  Just like Bush did.

I'm saying if they were willing to change Jessica lynch from "surrender then rape" to "shot a bunch of bad guys"............

if they were willing to change Tillman from "killed by his own team then burned on battlefield" to "led the charge and saved his boys then was shot"........


I don't trust a damn word they say.  Period.  This is the equivalent of killing hitler.  This event will be in the history books for centuries.  He had this ending written already.  maybe it happened exactly as obama told us.  But it's not impossible that HE would lie about it.

Our troops are brave, the seals are badasses and OBL needed that bullet.  But to me, IMO, the story of cowering unarmed behind a woman hiding sounds like propaganda.

[tu_holmes]

I don`t think 240 is trying to push any type of conspiracy theory, he is just trying to piece together events with the given information thus far.  He is not drawing any conclusions that I can see, just having some fun speculating.


There are some on here though that are blatant conspiracy theorists and they are truly dumb.  They still think Bin Laden was killed years ago or that he wasn`t killed etc..

Dude... You know full well his MO is to start out saying "well maybe" and the next thing you know, he's acting like his opinion of incidents is more accurate than someone elses.

In this instance, we 240 saying things which are actually LESS likely, but he likes the idea that the military didn't do their job and are lying about it... Every thing he says in regards to our armed service individuals and the people who help protect our freedoms comes across as a negative.

Fuck him.

[tu_holmes]

*I didn't say anything about "our boys"

I'm talking about Obama.  He will paint the story he wants for this.  You know this.  Just like Bush did.

I'm saying if they were willing to change Jessica lynch from "surrender then rape" to "shot a bunch of bad guys"............

if they were willing to change Tillman from "killed by his own team then burned on battlefield" to "led the charge and saved his boys then was shot"........


I don't trust a damn word they say.  Period.  This is the equivalent of killing hitler.  This event will be in the history books for centuries.  He had this ending written already.  maybe it happened exactly as obama told us.  But it's not impossible that HE would lie about it.

Our troops are brave, the seals are badasses and OBL needed that bullet.  But to me, IMO, the story of cowering unarmed behind a woman hiding sounds like propaganda.

Exactly... You are calling the people on the ground liars.

Until someone proves the guys that were there are lying... I will believe them instead of some shit you make up.

You are calling them liars, you just admitted to it.

Fuck you.

[Fury]

Dude... You know full well his MO is to start out saying "well maybe" and the next thing you know, he's acting like his opinion of incidents is more accurate than someone elses.

In this instance, we 240 saying things which are actually LESS likely, but he likes the idea that the military didn't do their job and are lying about it... Every thing he says in regards to our armed service individuals and the people who help protect our freedoms comes across as a negative.

Fuck him.

This is 240's modus operandi. He was doing the same shit with Libya two weeks ago. And with 9/11. And with every other story under the Sun.

He's a fucking troll.

[240 is Back]

Dude... You know full well his MO is to start out saying "well maybe" and the next thing you know, he's acting like his opinion of incidents is more accurate than someone elses.

In this instance, we 240 saying things which are actually LESS likely, but he likes the idea that the military didn't do their job and are lying about it... Every thing he says in regards to our armed service individuals and the people who help protect our freedoms comes across as a negative.

Fuck him.

Disagree.  I've said they deserve Time's man of the year cover for this mission.

But I'm saying i'm not ruling out Obama changing the story to fit his narrative and how history will view HIM.  

it probably happened just like he said it.  But in my opinion, it doesn't match what our generals said for years about osama bin laden - planned suicide before capture.  Hiding on bed behind woman during 120 seconds of gun battles doesn't jive with what Gen barry Mccaffrey and Jack Jacobs said on the news all those years - that suicide was first on his mind over capture.

[Soul Crusher]

Obama blocked plot to bomb Bin Laden's lair FOUR months ago - he wanted DNA proof he was dead
dailymail.co.uk ^ | May 3, 2011 | Rob Cooper
Posted on May 2, 2011 11:04:10 PM EDT by Free ThinkerNY

Barack Obama vetoed a plan for stealth bombers to blow up Osama Bin Laden's compound in March so special forces could get DNA evidence to confirm he was dead.

The U.S. President gave the all clear for an air strike on the 54-year-old's hideaway - but backed out.

Military leaders were going to drop 2,000lb bombs from two B2 stealth bombers on the secure site yards from Pakistan's military academy, sources revealed.

But Obama told the military to hold off, and instead an elite team American forces killed the terrorist during a firefight.

The President vetoed the original plan so the U.S. could preserve the terror leader's remains and prove that he had been killed, ABC News reported.

DNA samples taken from the body showed the man killed was '99.9 per cent certain' to be Bin Laden.

Detailed photo analysis by the CIA, confirmation by other people at the raid site and matching physical features like bin Laden's height all helped confirmed the identification.

His body was swiftly dumped at sea so that his burial site did not become a shrine.

Destroying the compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, from the air would have killed all 22 people inside - including women and children potentially sparking an angry backlash from the international community.

The daring mission to take out the world's most wanted man was finally given the go-ahead last Friday, according to the source.

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Like our govt did with jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman?

Sorry, but the second I heard we killed him, I wondered just how hollywood this romantic shotout story would be.  Sure enough, an unarmed osama cowering behind a woman, shot in the eye by a precision shot form a soldier.


Hell, any of us could have written that story.  Did he crap his pants first too?  it's like when they killed off Chef on South Park - they gave him the worst possible ending. 

I believe IF they had walked into the room and found him already dead, they may not say that.  They wouldn't give him that win, that control, that escape.  They'd take credit.  Without a fricking doubt. 

Precision shot to the eye???

Where the fuck do you get this crap?  Just make it up?

For all we know, Osama was dropping down to pick up a gun and when the soldier fired it him in the eye.  Or any other number of possibilities. 

You were claiming in another post that it was crowded?  How the fuck do you know?

Dude, you really can't see that you just make shit up to support your delusional CT fantasies?  You really can't see that?

Here's a future post for you after you make up some more shit:

"There was 15 people between the soldier and Osama, the roof was collapsing with debris, the moon was reflecting off a mirror into the eyes of the soldier, the soldier had his kneecap shot off...but somehow the seal pulled off a precision shot.  Yeah right guys...totally unbelievable that he could have taken his own life.  It's all cool though..."

[Soul Crusher]

Pakistan: We Alerted US Administration About OBL Compound Back in 2009
Gateway ^ | 5/04/2011 | Jim Hoft

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The Pakistani Foreign Secretary told the BBC yesterday that Pakistan alerted the US about Osama Bion Laden’s compound back in 2009. Dawn reported:

Pakistan alerted the US to its suspicions about a compound where Osama bin Laden was found hiding as far back as 2009, Pakistani Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir said on Wednesday.

Bashir also hit out at “disquieting” comments by CIA Director Leon Panetta that US officials had ruled out informing Islamabad in advance about Sunday’s US raid on the Pakistani compound which led to the al Qaeda chief’s death.

Asked in a BBC radio interview about the compound in Abbottabad where the al Qaeda chief was discovered, Bashir said: “This particular location was pointed out by our intelligence quite some time ago to the US intelligence.

“Of course they have a much more sophisticated equipment to evaluate and to assess.”


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[Soul Crusher]

The Intellectual Dishonesty of Nancy Pelosi
Commentary Magazine ^ | May 3, 2011 | by Peter Wehner


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Here’s Nancy Pelosi from a press conference on September 7, 2006:

[E]ven if [Osama bin Laden] is caught tomorrow, it is five years too late. He has done more damage the longer he has been out there. But, in fact, the damage that he has done . . . is done. And even to capture him now I don’t think makes us any safer.

And here’s Nancy Pelosi yesterday:

The death of Osama bin Laden marks the most significant development in our fight against al-Qaida. . . . I salute President Obama, his national security team, Director Panetta, our men and women in the intelligence community and military, and other nations who supported this effort for their leadership in achieving this major accomplishment. . . . [T]he death of Osama bin Laden is historic. . . .


This devastating then-and-now comparison comes to us courtesy of John Hideraker of Power Line. It underscores the degree to which partisanship can ravage people’s fair-mindedness and, in the process, make them look like fools and hacks. Such things aren’t uncommon in politics—but what is rare is to see such intellectual dishonesty proven so conclusively.

[loco]

Administration's initial misstatements raise questions

Bin Laden was shielded during the shooting by women, including his wife, they said. He was an active participant in an ongoing firefight, they insisted, implying bin Laden was armed and therefore gave U.S. Navy SEALs little choice but to shoot him down.

Hours later, a senior administration official began to revise that narrative to some White House reporters. Further revisions came Tuesday when White House Press Secretary Jay Carney gave a step-by-step description of the raid provided by the Defense Department that made clear bin Laden was unarmed and had no human shields.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/03/bin.laden.evolving.story/index.html?hpt=T1

[Bindare_Dundat]

Administration's initial misstatements raise questions

Bin Laden was shielded during the shooting by women, including his wife, they said. He was an active participant in an ongoing firefight, they insisted, implying bin Laden was armed and therefore gave U.S. Navy SEALs little choice but to shoot him down.

Hours later, a senior administration official began to revise that narrative to some White House reporters. Further revisions came Tuesday when White House Press Secretary Jay Carney gave a step-by-step description of the raid provided by the Defense Department that made clear bin Laden was unarmed and had no human shields.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/03/bin.laden.evolving.story/index.html?hpt=T1

Yup, theres been parts of this thing that came out sounding like a bad b movie movie script. There's been several versions and it's only been a few days . Quite a change compared to the capture of Saddam which was way more accurate.

[Soul Crusher]

The Young Wife Who Defended Osama Bin Laden
ABC News ^ | May 4, 2011 | By BRIAN ROSS



The woman who the White House said charged U.S. Navy SEALs in an apparent desperate last ditch effort to protect Osama bin Laden has been identified as bin Laden's youngest wife, a woman nearly half his age.

Fatah, bin Laden's fifth wife and the only one left living with him in the house, had been gifted to the al Qaeda leader from a Yemeni family when she was just a teenager and later had three young children with him.

To former high-ranking CIA analyst and former FBI counterterrorism official Phil Mudd, it's not surprising that she apparently was willing to risk her life for the man the U.S. has been hunting for more than a decade.

"He is, in the al Qaeda context, an honorable man and he's viewed in their context not as a terrorist but as a statesman," Mudd told ABC News. "I would be surprised if this guy would sacrifice a wife for this operation, but I'm sure she was willing to get in front of a bullet for him."


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[Soul Crusher]

Bin Laden captured alive and THEN shot, claims daughter, 12, as White House admits he wasn't armed
Daily Mail UK ^ | May 4, 2011



Osama bin Laden's daughter has claimed he was captured alive in his Pakistani hideout and then shot by US special forces, it was reported today.

Arabic news network Al-Arabiya quoted 'senior Pakistani security officials' who said the 12-year-old saw her father executed and his body dragged to a helicopter.

A Pakistani official rejected US accounts of a bloody firefight, saying: 'Not a single bullet was fired from the compound at the U.S. forces and their choppers. Their chopper developed some technical fault and crashed and the wreckage was left on the spot.'

The channel also said the surviving bin Laden relatives, including six children and one of his wives, had been taken to hospital in Rawalpindi. Amal Al-Sadah, the terror chief's 27-year-old wife and youngest bride, was shot in the leg during the raid but survived.

In initial accounts of the firefight, US. officials had claimed bin Laden was armed with an AK47 rifle and was using his wife as a ‘human shield’ when he was shot. U.S. Press Secretary Jay Carney confirmed more details of the death of Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden last night

U.S. press secretary Jay Carney confirmed more details of the death of Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden last night

Counter-terrorism official John Brennan had said. 'There was family at that compound, and there was a female who was, in fact, in the line of fire that reportedly was used as a shield to shield Bin Laden from the incoming fire.'

But last night, the White House said Bin Laden was not armed when a U.S. Navy SEAL confronted and killed him during Sunday night's assault on his compound.


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[240 is Back]

but but but I thought it was an unfounded CT to question Obama's initial fairy tale version of events?

Is it founded yet?  Can we now question whether the White House was just feeding us a perfect narrative to fit their own agenda?

[Soul Crusher]

but but but I thought it was an unfounded CT to question Obama's initial fairy tale version of events?

Is it founded yet?  Can we now question whether the White House was just feeding us a perfect narrative to fit their own agenda?

If they were watching this thing on a live feed - how the hell is thing so muddled?