J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe

[jrod]

Easy brotha... One of these h0mo's get killed,then they show up at your show.... Then what?  Too many snitches on this site..!

I was saying, GH15 is coming for ME.  I live in the Bay Area, I dont know anything about GH15. 

[Coach is Back!]

GH15 lives in the San Diego area.

[g101]

lmao a bunch of clowns claiming natural

theres guy's who don't look as good as you mr.natural jrod n are on lots of aas .....


 

[Yev33]

I don't know Jrod personally but yes I do think he could be natural. I don't get it, why can't people that train ( or pretend like they train ) understand that what you do in the gym matters, what you eat matters, your sleep quality matters. You could be busting your ass in the gym 6 days a week and spinning your fucking wheels because you have absolutely no fucking clue what you are doing. There is a guy I see in my gym that comes in every week and does 3 sets of 4 with 245 on the bench  .He has been doing this for at least 3 fucking years.  I kid you not, every fucking time he comes in to train chest he does 3 sets with 245 for 4 reps, I have started noticing it 3 years ago so for all I know he could have been doing for 10years. Guess what, he looks the same way he did three years ago, not bigger, not smaller, absolutely the same. Now you show a picture of Jrod to guy like that and I won't be surprised he will say STEROIDS. I swear there are people here that have absolutely no clue what takes it to get past the initial gains that you get during your first year of lifting.  Every once in a while you will see threads that say it doesn't matter how you train, it doesn't matter how you eat you will hit your genetic limit. Are you fucking kidding me, doesn't matter? At all ? Not even a little bit? And you are saying that Jrod is fucking with people's minds by giving them false hope on what can be accomplished? How about telling a young kid that the only way for him to get bigger and stronger is through a syringe, as long as he can afford it of course, after that sorry bud your'e fucked, kill yourself now because if don't use all this shit that I am selling you will shrink to your former self (  and that's the only real truth that the kid will get out of that). And don't bring Frank Zane into this bullshit, it was 40 years ago, things progress as time goes on, technology, health care, etc., as time goes by things improve and become more efficient, people find ways to achive more on less that's how we progress as a human race.
  

[jrod]

lmao a bunch of clowns claiming natural

theres guy's who don't look as good as you mr.natural jrod n are on lots of aas .....


 

Well, I'm sorry if their goal was to look better than me.  If I wanted to be a marathon runner, I would probably suck at that (you can't be great at EVERYTHING).  I'm 5'9", I suck at basketball. 

Those same guys who don't look as good as me while on drugs, maybe some of them don't look as good as these guys.

[jrod]

I don't know Jrod personally but yes I do think he could be natural. I don't get it, why can't people that train ( or pretend like they train ) understand that what you do in the gym matters, what you eat matters, your sleep quality matters. You could be busting your ass in the gym 6 days a week and spinning your fucking wheels because you have absolutely no fucking clue what you are doing. There is a guy I see in my gym that comes in every week and does 3 sets of 4 with 245 on the bench  .He has been doing this for at least 3 fucking years.  I kid you not, every fucking time he comes in to train chest he does 3 sets with 245 for 4 reps, I have started noticing it 3 years ago so for all I know he could have been doing for 10years. Guess what, he looks the same way he did three years ago, not bigger, not smaller, absolutely the same. Now you show a picture of Jrod to guy like that and I won't be surprised he will say STEROIDS. I swear there are people here that have absolutely no clue what takes it to get past the initial gains that you get during your first year of lifting.  Every once in a while you will see threads that say it doesn't matter how you train, it doesn't matter how you eat you will hit your genetic limit. Are you fucking kidding me, doesn't matter? At all ? Not even a little bit? And you are saying that Jrod is fucking with people's minds by giving them false hope on what can be accomplished? How about telling a young kid that the only way for him to get bigger and stronger is through a syringe, as long as he can afford it of course, after that sorry bud your'e fucked, kill yourself now because if don't use all this shit that I am selling you will shrink to your former self (  and that's the only real truth that the kid will get out of that). And don't bring Frank Zane into this bullshit, it was 40 years ago, things progress as time goes on, technology, health care, etc., as time goes by things improve and become more efficient, people find ways to achive more on less that's how we progress as a human race.
  

Good post.  This will fall on deaf ears, but good post!

[the_swami]

I don't know Jrod personally but yes I do think he could be natural. I don't get it, why can't people that train ( or pretend like they train ) understand that what you do in the gym matters, what you eat matters, your sleep quality matters. You could be busting your ass in the gym 6 days a week and spinning your fucking wheels because you have absolutely no fucking clue what you are doing. There is a guy I see in my gym that comes in every week and does 3 sets of 4 with 245 on the bench  .He has been doing this for at least 3 fucking years.  I kid you not, every fucking time he comes in to train chest he does 3 sets with 245 for 4 reps, I have started noticing it 3 years ago so for all I know he could have been doing for 10years. Guess what, he looks the same way he did three years ago, not bigger, not smaller, absolutely the same. Now you show a picture of Jrod to guy like that and I won't be surprised he will say STEROIDS. I swear there are people here that have absolutely no clue what takes it to get past the initial gains that you get during your first year of lifting.  Every once in a while you will see threads that say it doesn't matter how you train, it doesn't matter how you eat you will hit your genetic limit. Are you fucking kidding me, doesn't matter? At all ? Not even a little bit? And you are saying that Jrod is fucking with people's minds by giving them false hope on what can be accomplished? How about telling a young kid that the only way for him to get bigger and stronger is through a syringe, as long as he can afford it of course, after that sorry bud your'e fucked, kill yourself now because if don't use all this shit that I am selling you will shrink to your former self (  and that's the only real truth that the kid will get out of that). And don't bring Frank Zane into this bullshit, it was 40 years ago, things progress as time goes on, technology, health care, etc., as time goes by things improve and become more efficient, people find ways to achive more on less that's how we progress as a human race.
  

this unfortunately is one of the naive getbiggers who believe liars like rodriguez, lorton, lacour, moody etc etc

[gh15]

I don't know Jrod personally but yes I do think he could be natural. I don't get it, why can't people that train ( or pretend like they train ) understand that what you do in the gym matters, what you eat matters, your sleep quality matters. You could be busting your ass in the gym 6 days a week and spinning your fucking wheels because you have absolutely no fucking clue what you are doing. There is a guy I see in my gym that comes in every week and does 3 sets of 4 with 245 on the bench  .He has been doing this for at least 3 fucking years.  I kid you not, every fucking time he comes in to train chest he does 3 sets with 245 for 4 reps, I have started noticing it 3 years ago so for all I know he could have been doing for 10years. Guess what, he looks the same way he did three years ago, not bigger, not smaller, absolutely the same. Now you show a picture of Jrod to guy like that and I won't be surprised he will say STEROIDS. I swear there are people here that have absolutely no clue what takes it to get past the initial gains that you get during your first year of lifting.  Every once in a while you will see threads that say it doesn't matter how you train, it doesn't matter how you eat you will hit your genetic limit. Are you fucking kidding me, doesn't matter? At all ? Not even a little bit? And you are saying that Jrod is fucking with people's minds by giving them false hope on what can be accomplished? How about telling a young kid that the only way for him to get bigger and stronger is through a syringe, as long as he can afford it of course, after that sorry bud your'e fucked, kill yourself now because if don't use all this shit that I am selling you will shrink to your former self (  and that's the only real truth that the kid will get out of that). And don't bring Frank Zane into this bullshit, it was 40 years ago, things progress as time goes on, technology, health care, etc., as time goes by things improve and become more efficient, people find ways to achive more on less that's how we progress as a human race.
  

i will tell you exactly why friend,,the human body has limits of how much muscle it can carry in suprior condition ,,it is a lmit applied to all humans no matter color race anything of the such,,this limit runs at the 10lb zone for naturals...aka they can differ from eachother 10lb max when all in top condition NATURALLY due to bone ...frame...etc again i am talking same condition truly natural bodybuild 10 lb difference for same heights same bf%

now,, the most importa thing to remember is what true natural spot...and this is highly imprtant for the true natural among yourselves,,the ones who dont lie ,,few of them around but i feel for them ,,their numbers are being surpassed by hormonized liars and their numbers should be proudly presented for all to see for their great achievments,,

those numbers are..

5'10 180 lb 8% bodyfat....

6'2 200lb 6% bodyfat

5'7 145-150lb 6% bodyfat


those are the fellas who need be soluted  for their dedication and no surrender to temtation ,,not the liars around you that floded the cult,,its shame for you to bring up new technics in the last 30 years ...because there are NONE ,,only diff is then there was only aas and now there is bnunch of hormones aside from aas inaddition to aas... thats the ONLLLLY diff,,

food is food ,,back then it was BETTER food more organic ...more simple..

some of you fellas really lost your head,,really really living in a dream land where you try to lie and for what? you dont gain anything ,,you dont make money from this ..you are not sagi kalev ,,you are not top models that grace covers all over the world ..you dont have the face to go with the body,,so why the lies? to prove to jen the 19 year old that you met on the beach that you were born geneticaly gifted? dont you think jenny knows you selling her balonie because jenny has a girlfriend that is married to a true bodybuilder,,or will have a girlfriend that date a true bodybuilder...that will be hones with her,,,dont you understand that jenny at the end of the day will figure out that you cant go to sleep with her same times because you are on high from the trenbolona and cant fall asleep? dont you understand she will get it when she find out you want to hump her every day 5 times a day and she dont want to do it...dont you understand jenny will at the end try to move in with you and be in your life and will figure out things and then will kick your sorry ass away because you lied to her all this time and kept your mouth shut?

you americano fellas really think you fool anyone? do you really think she wont be able to use steroids to police if something happen ....you think by you not tellin her you inject hormones she will just be like ok he is all natual ...i can see his muscles are very visible and he maintain lots of size but he was just working very hard ...how long will you be able to sell it to jenny? 2 months? if she dont  get it after then jenny will never get anythign and is not worthy of consideration as a girlfriend...because she is dumb and wil be dumb about many things not steroid related


how much do you think you can walk around smiling at the true natural laughin at him behind your back because you are 10lb bigger lieing to everyone you are natural yet on turinabol ,,,oxandrolone,,halodrol,,who do you thin you are fooling?

you really think people are dumb thats the problem,,people are not dumb ,,

the only time to not talk abotu hormones is when you train a client and some fellas come around and say ...hey how do you get your waist so small thats what i wanna know...and then tell you oh my buddy is a bodybuilder you have very high ork morals and consistancy yada dee yada daa...thats hen you smile and say you eat fish all day as a quick get out BECAUSE YOU ARE TRAINING A CLIENT AND DONT ANT TO MAKE A SCENE IN GYM

but the reality of things is this....and listen closely mr posting originator...

today 40 year old women....that train in gyms and come to tone up a bit ...getting fed up with ANAVAR BY THEIR TRAINERS,,THATY CHARGE THEM 500 BUCKS FOR 100 PILLS..DO YOU FUCKIN KNOW THAT?? WHY DONT YOU ASK MICHAEL ARVILLA IF HE KNOWS ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT IN AMERICANA ,,

many of you are ignorant,,many of you feed your clients and im talkin about bodybuilders that feed their client drugs like oxandrolone ..women who dotn want drugs but you want them to get results and too lasy to train them right ...so you feed them some anavar..and those omen take it 40 year old house wives nurses that just want to become 120 insted of 127 .... and yet you feed them this balonie,,so WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU LIEING TO>

40 year old girls using anavar that rarely even touch or experienced with weight ...

you got her ebunch of stinky liars that are mentaly ill,,

really shame

gh15 approved

[Yev33]

this unfortunately is one of the naive getbiggers who believe liars like rodriguez, lorton, lacour, moody etc etc

Yep, naive as 4 year old, case closed. Only one way to look at this one boys. No worries GH15 we got this one for you, our fearless leader.

[gh15]

this unfortunately is one of the naive getbiggers who believe liars like rodriguez, lorton, lacour, moody etc etc

he doesnt believe it ,,he knows better,,he just lies or in other words of generation nothingess ...twisting reality ,,but trust me fells knows very very well about hormones

gh15 approved

[Meso_z]

All chicken breast, broccoli and full range of motion.

[Army of One]

HAHAHAAHA, Jrods the type of guy who cries himself to sleep if he misses his postworkout window of oppurtunity due to traffic and he's trying to say he doesnt take bodybuilding seriously   Anyone in your condition takes bodybuilding seriously.Answer me this, how are you able to rival the physiques of the top pro bodybuilders from the 70's who were on a boat load of drugs?What has changed for the natural lifter in the last 50 years?

We all know why you lie, if you actually entered juiced competitions you may place in the top 5 but nobody would remember your name, no website\magazine would be interested in talking to you, youd just be another guy at the gym.I think you realised this early, you didnt respond well to higher doses so you lowered them a little and figured youd get the attention you craved by going the "natural" route.As the guy previous said its guys like you that are responsible for the complete misinformation that public thinks is achievable lifting clean.

[jrod]

quote author=Army of One link=topic=375873.msg5343730#msg5343730 date=1305100936]
HAHAHAAHA, Jrods the type of guy who cries himself to sleep if he misses his postworkout window of oppurtunity due to trafficThat was hilarious man HAHAHAHAHA, oh you're great! and he's trying to say he doesnt take bodybuilding seriously I take it seriously, I enjoy it, I was just saying I dont freak out about not having big enough calves, or whatever else. Anyone in your condition takes bodybuilding seriously.Answer me this, how are you able to rival the physiques of the top pro bodybuilders from the 70's who were on a boat load of drugs?What has changed for the natural lifter in the last 50 years?  No idea.  I could sit here and put together a reasonable response, but it would not matter, you'd believe what you want.  Fine, I'm not natural, I'm on drugs (easier response).

We all know why you lie, if you actually entered juiced competitions you may place in the top 5 but nobody would remember your name, no website\magazine would be interested in talking to you, youd just be another guy at the gymYou got it!.I think you realised this early, you didnt respond well to higher doses so you lowered them a little and figured youd get the attention you craved by going the "natural" route Yeah, i tried to get HUGE but I couldn't do it, so I toned it down.  After numerous PMs with GH15, we came to the conclusion that I'm better of trying to be smaller and slinging around my baloney around here to sell protein and make enough money to get my GH for the month and pay rent..As the guy previous said its guys like you that are responsible for the complete misinformation that public thinks is achievable lifting clean. Damn, I did not know I was that big of a deal.  Well, you are doing a great job at straightening out this information.  Carry on  with your mission.  I'm gonna try to fuck it all up though

[jrod]

All chicken breast, broccoli and full range of motion.

And sleep.  So I gotta go to sleep.  I got a big day of fucking up the GH15 army, etc. crew tomorrow. 

[OptimusPrime1980]

why all the lies?
there are a lot of serious bb here, and we are not idiots!
i have trained natural , and it sucks!
go on a pre contest diet , and you will loose all your mass if natural.
it is just the way a human body works, an jrod you are human to!
a liar human that is....
scum of the earth.
i am from europe, not many liars here, most of the guys tell straight up what they use.
and if somebody does not want to do the extreme drug use, we have classic bodybuilding.
but then again , you would get killed in the classic bobybuilding competions overhere.
you are a small individual, and i am not just talking about your physique.
tell your lies somewhere else, you are insulting a lot of people here.
and about gh15 , doesnt't matter who he is, or even if he is a pro or not.
i know a few top amateurs and pro's and gh15 does know his drugs.
and he hates liars, which is cool, he to is european.
jrod is just very insecure and needs to be told that he is a genetic freak on a daily basis, most of these "naturals" are like that. Always screaming natural this and natural that.....
lol! well i am not and need drugs to get big!
i could care less what you use, but you lie!!! liar!!! to kids , to people on this board, unsulting our intelligence.
fu$$ing loosers, lol! i am actually getting pissed now, so i will stop.

[DK II]

why all the lies?
there are a lot of serious bb here, and we are not idiots!
i have trained natural , and it sucks!
go on a pre contest diet , and you will loose all your mass if natural.
it is just the way a human body works, an jrod you are human to!
a liar human that is....
scum of the earth.
i am from europe, not many liars here, most of the guys tell straight up what they use.
and if somebody does not want to do the extreme drug use, we have classic bodybuilding.
but then again , you would get killed in the classic bobybuilding competions overhere.
you are a small individual, and i am not just talking about your physique.
tell your lies somewhere else, you are insulting a lot of people here.
and about gh15 , doesnt't matter who he is, or even if he is a pro or not.
i know a few top amateurs and pro's and gh15 does know his drugs.
and he hates liars, which is cool, he to is european.
jrod is just very insecure and needs to be told that he is a genetic freak on a daily basis, most of these "naturals" are like that. Always screaming natural this and natural that.....
lol! well i am not and need drugs to get big!
i could care less what you use, but you lie!!! liar!!! to kids , to people on this board, unsulting our intelligence.
fu$$ing loosers, lol! i am actually getting pissed now, so i will stop.

great post.

[Meso_z]

why all the lies?
there are a lot of serious bb here, and we are not idiots!
i have trained natural , and it sucks!
go on a pre contest diet , and you will loose all your mass if natural.
it is just the way a human body works, an jrod you are human to!
a liar human that is....
scum of the earth.
i am from europe, not many liars here, most of the guys tell straight up what they use.
and if somebody does not want to do the extreme drug use, we have classic bodybuilding.
but then again , you would get killed in the classic bobybuilding competions overhere.
you are a small individual, and i am not just talking about your physique.
tell your lies somewhere else, you are insulting a lot of people here.
and about gh15 , doesnt't matter who he is, or even if he is a pro or not.
i know a few top amateurs and pro's and gh15 does know his drugs.
and he hates liars, which is cool, he to is european.
jrod is just very insecure and needs to be told that he is a genetic freak on a daily basis, most of these "naturals" are like that. Always screaming natural this and natural that.....
lol! well i am not and need drugs to get big!
i could care less what you use, but you lie!!! liar!!! to kids , to people on this board, unsulting our intelligence.
fu$$ing loosers, lol! i am actually getting pissed now, so i will stop.

I agree.. They think were idiots or something. But is the "natural status" makes them feel good about themselves...oh well.

[wes]

why all the lies?
there are a lot of serious bb here, and we are not idiots!
i have trained natural , and it sucks!
go on a pre contest diet , and you will loose all your mass if natural.
it is just the way a human body works, an jrod you are human to!
a liar human that is....
scum of the earth.
i am from europe, not many liars here, most of the guys tell straight up what they use.
and if somebody does not want to do the extreme drug use, we have classic bodybuilding.
but then again , you would get killed in the classic bobybuilding competions overhere.
you are a small individual, and i am not just talking about your physique.
tell your lies somewhere else, you are insulting a lot of people here.
and about gh15 , doesnt't matter who he is, or even if he is a pro or not.
i know a few top amateurs and pro's and gh15 does know his drugs.
and he hates liars, which is cool, he to is european.
jrod is just very insecure and needs to be told that he is a genetic freak on a daily basis, most of these "naturals" are like that. Always screaming natural this and natural that.....
lol! well i am not and need drugs to get big!
i could care less what you use, but you lie!!! liar!!! to kids , to people on this board, unsulting our intelligence.
fu$$ing loosers, lol! i am actually getting pissed now, so i will stop.

Calm down Gloria,it`s really not that serious!!

Meltdown of epic proportions for Christs sake. 

[TrueGrit]

Jrod, are you lifetime natty? what about prohormones? are your shows drug tested, polygraphed?

[Meso_z]

Calm down Gloria,it`s really not that serious!!

Meltdown of epic proportions for Christs sake. 

I think its serious...when they INSIST lying like that.

[asbrus]

And sleep.  So I gotta go to sleep.  I got a big day of fucking up the GH15 army, etc. crew tomorrow.  

L00KING F0R M0RE CLIENTS I SEE.

[DK II]

Jrod, are you lifetime natty? what about prohormones? are your shows drug tested, polygraphed?

I think Jrod has eaten a protein bar once, by mistake, and has done a creatine cycle of 3 weeks when he was 16. 

[lm]

Another insecure guy that lies about his drug use like all these competing naturals, and lies about how much he cares about it by jokingly admitting it, yet fails at the same time by responding to all the comments.

JRod, wouldn't it be better if you kept your mouth shut and just did your "natural" thing?

[buselmo]

I don't know Jrod personally but yes I do think he could be natural. I don't get it, why can't people that train ( or pretend like they train ) understand that what you do in the gym matters, what you eat matters, your sleep quality matters. You could be busting your ass in the gym 6 days a week and spinning your fucking wheels because you have absolutely no fucking clue what you are doing. There is a guy I see in my gym that comes in every week and does 3 sets of 4 with 245 on the bench  .He has been doing this for at least 3 fucking years.  I kid you not, every fucking time he comes in to train chest he does 3 sets with 245 for 4 reps, I have started noticing it 3 years ago so for all I know he could have been doing for 10years. Guess what, he looks the same way he did three years ago, not bigger, not smaller, absolutely the same. Now you show a picture of Jrod to guy like that and I won't be surprised he will say STEROIDS. I swear there are people here that have absolutely no clue what takes it to get past the initial gains that you get during your first year of lifting.  Every once in a while you will see threads that say it doesn't matter how you train, it doesn't matter how you eat you will hit your genetic limit. Are you fucking kidding me, doesn't matter? At all ? Not even a little bit? And you are saying that Jrod is fucking with people's minds by giving them false hope on what can be accomplished? How about telling a young kid that the only way for him to get bigger and stronger is through a syringe, as long as he can afford it of course, after that sorry bud your'e fucked, kill yourself now because if don't use all this shit that I am selling you will shrink to your former self (  and that's the only real truth that the kid will get out of that). And don't bring Frank Zane into this bullshit, it was 40 years ago, things progress as time goes on, technology, health care, etc., as time goes by things improve and become more efficient, people find ways to achive more on less that's how we progress as a human race.
 

what you don't understand is a lot of people here tried the retarded "natural" route and worked 10 times harder than they do while on the juice and didn't even find a fraction of the results.
you can look good natural, if you have the right genetics for shape! you can look big without the t-shirt on standing alone in pictures... but when you put on that S-size shirt and look like a somalian refugee, you realize you suck ass.
biggest mistake i've ever done was waste 4 years training natural and obsessing about food and training and supplementation...
when you're an honest dude, and in a country where juice is fucking legal, and people see you in the gym and ask "you look a bit softer and you look tired, you alright?" and you say "yeah, i'm off the juice now... i hate training when i'm off"... you will get a swarm of those fucking "naturals" coming to you as you leave the gym and take you where no one can hear and say "dude, i'm on 750 mg test, and around 600 mg eq... is that a good cycle for me? i've tried masterone and tren before, but you know, i had some problems with the little man so i decided not to use them... and what do you think about GH? i used 4 iu before and i think it was fake"...

people who know the truth about this bodybuilding shit know that:
training like "an animal" in the gym and knowing the "correct way to train" while carrying around your tupperware like a clown = dumb ass who'll never see anything over 160 lbs 7% fat looking like a heroin addict

using aas, training like a maniac and carrying your chicken breasts with you where ever you go while keeping your emergency protein powder+ waxy maize+shaker bottle in the trunk of your car just in case = some good results while being retarded and wasting time, effort and money

just train, eat whatever you want in a smart way, take juice, use fat burners and GH = looking big at low bodyfat percentage (under 12%) all the time and getting below 6% by upping the drugs, fat burners and GH and cleaning up the diet for 2-4 weeks.


people with experience know that
people in denial and really want to believe that they have failed because of genetics or effort are the people who believe this shit in this thread.

[DK II]

what you don't understand is a lot of people here tried the retarded "natural" route and worked 10 times harder than they do while on the juice and didn't even find a fraction of the results.
you can look good natural, if you have the right genetics for shape! you can look big without the t-shirt on standing alone in pictures... but when you put on that S-size shirt and look like a somalian refugee, you realize you suck ass.
biggest mistake i've ever done was waste 4 years training natural and obsessing about food and training and supplementation...
when you're an honest dude, and in a country where juice is fucking legal, and people see you in the gym and ask "you look a bit softer and you look tired, you alright?" and you say "yeah, i'm off the juice now... i hate training when i'm off"... you will get a swarm of those fucking "naturals" coming to you as you leave the gym and take you where no one can hear and say "dude, i'm on 750 mg test, and around 600 mg eq... is that a good cycle for me? i've tried masterone and tren before, but you know, i had some problems with the little man so i decided not to use them... and what do you think about GH? i used 4 iu before and i think it was fake"...

people who know the truth about this bodybuilding shit know that:
training like "an animal" in the gym and knowing the "correct way to train" while carrying around your tupperware like a clown = dumb ass who'll never see anything over 160 lbs 7% fat looking like a heroin addict

using aas, training like a maniac and carrying your chicken breasts with you where ever you go while keeping your emergency protein powder+ waxy maize+shaker bottle in the trunk of your car just in case = some good results while being retarded and wasting time, effort and money

just train, eat whatever you want in a smart way, take juice, use fat burners and GH = looking big at low bodyfat percentage (under 12%) all the time and getting below 6% by upping the drugs, fat burners and GH and cleaning up the diet for 2-4 weeks.


people with experience know that
people in denial and really want to believe that they have failed because of genetics or effort are the people who believe this shit in this thread.

So fucking true.