J-rod 11 weeks out of team universe

[tweeter]

GH15, love your posts man. I was wondering if you happen to have a picture or example of the maximum physique that can be attained by a lifetime natural.

[saucetradomous]

So you believe that Jrod has the most elite genetics on the planet?

I'd say he has amazing genetics, most elite? highly unlikey.  compared to most here though, yeah!
I'm pretty sure jeff would say his gentics help him out a shitload too but he's just playing it off because everyone knows he couldn't have built that without help right? so if he did use drugs then I would say his gentic response isn't that great cause he's hasnt put on much size in the last 3-4years. My personal belief is that he is natural and He's pretty much at his threashold there.  I guarantee you will not see him gain any noticable size in the next 20 years.

[gh15]

You would admit at least the Jrod has very good structural genetics, small joints, long muscle bellies and V-taper?

 i would admit he has good muscle bellies,,in specific muscles,,the structure is ok shoudl have wider shoulders to make impact too narrow in the shoulder department,,over all its his waist who give him the illusion of being wide because he is not particularly wide...he infact inorder to pull natural illusion shoudl keep it this way because first thing you lok at is delt thickness and smart naturals make sure their delts dont over power their arms which he does in his case,,

he has good muscle shape yes,,but it doesnt matter with today drug regimen ,,you can have average muscle shape and do well if in great condition

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[saucetradomous]

I believe it is possible to accomplish what JRod has accomplished naturally with above average genetics, above average dedication and hard work, and knowledge of nutrition and training.  

I see too many natural bodybuilders in the gym busting their butts lifting and doing cardio for years with little to no improvement, but they lack one or more of the above.

I've also seen a few guys in the gym who claim to be on steroids, but they hardly look like they even lift at all.

QFT

the same guys who are on steroids who cant attain anything would believe it is not possible naturally.  I can understand that assumption so I'll let them continue on with their reasoning it gives them hope.

[gh15]

I'd say he has amazing genetics, most elite? highly unlikey.  compared to most here though, yeah!
I'm pretty sure jeff would say his gentics help him out a shitload too but he's just playing it off because everyone knows he couldn't have built that without help right? so if he did use drugs then I would say his gentic response isn't that great cause he's hasnt put on much size in the last 3-4years. My personal belief is that he is natural and He's pretty much at his threashold there.  I guarantee you will not see him gain any noticable size in the next 20 years.

he doesnt need to ,,as natural you try to get your condition better which give illusion you are bigger,,learn your bodybuilding,,his size is maxed for hormonized natural ,,anything more and he will nto be able to pass as natural ,,see ade as example,,he coudltn pull it anymore later on ,,see skip ...couldnt pull the natural anymore and got out of competition ,,see other jeff completly ruined himself form being obvious liar and using hormones in higher doses thus getting out of the big money scense of naturals,,and ofcourse the one to follow soon is chris faildo which playing with his luck

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[Deicide]

I'd say he has amazing genetics, most elite? highly unlikey.  compared to most here though, yeah!
I'm pretty sure jeff would say his gentics help him out a shitload too but he's just playing it off because everyone knows he couldn't have built that without help right? so if he did use drugs then I would say his gentic response isn't that great cause he's hasnt put on much size in the last 3-4years. My personal belief is that he is natural and He's pretty much at his threashold there.  I guarantee you will not see him gain any noticable size in the next 20 years.

So if he gets bigger you will say he juices?

[Big Worm]

the answer is  Y E S ,, no i wont reveal who i am if i did id never be back as gh15 and im afraid for my family safety

gh15 approved

Families safety!?  Brotha,you think too highly of yourself.. You come on here and bullshit about thing's that most that have done cycles already know.. Or they can get online and find out  themselves.. You have not dropped one jewel,trust me..

[saucetradomous]

he is 5 out of 10 like most othr human beings ,,,his genetic respond to hormones is what dictate how well he does,,and he chose natural route which is lower doses and longer period of usage and longer competetive lives

gh15 approved

that's an oxymoron
face it, according to your own scale you gave awhile back
5'10 180lbs 8% bodyfat is not far off from where jroid competes at which is what 5'8-9 175lbs 5%? that's what 10lbs away from your calculations?

[BIG_STI]

Jrod - I've never seen a guy under 200lbs rowing 315 for reps let alone 355 for reps, in fact i've never seen anyone row 315lbs with good form for reps who wasn't on gear

Although I guess the roach is still claiming 585 squat at 18 years old  

[Deicide]

Families safety!?  Brotha,you think too highly of yourself.. You come on here and bullshit about thing's that most that have done cycles already know.. Or they can get online and find out  themselves.. You have not dropped one jewel,trust me..

GH15 is funny as hell, he is an asset to getbig!

[Tito24]

[OptimusPrime1980]

today, genetics mean absolutely nothing!
you can have the sickest frame in the world, but when you do not have the right connections to the right drugs....
you will not get anywhere...
when you do not have the (hgh) money , you will not get anywhere.
yet a guy with a crappy built but WITH the right connections will blow you out the water ....
he will have money and connections, will blow superior frame out of the water..!
sad, but true...
genetics meant something in 70 's and 80's...
we should have a new class of bb, the up to 5 iu's max of hgh class!
lol.... goodbye phill heath.... will expose those guys in a minute...

[gh15]

that's an oxymoron
face it, according to your own scale you gave awhile back
5'10 180lbs 8% bodyfat is not far off from where jroid competes at which is what 5'8-9 175lbs 5%? that's what 10lbs away from your calculations?

very very VERY far,,this is how little you know about bodybuild,,you know about the drugs you take rather than actual bodybuild,,

the reason im a master of this and known as god is because i know a lot more than the drugs aspect,,and im tellin you here that 5'10 and he is not 5'10 but lets say 5'10..... a 5'10 180 8% look like complete shit complete and utter shit comparing to rodrigez 5% or in the worse case sub 6% at 175 with the low level of water he hold,,he has very low water retention VERY LOW ,,he is 3 lb of water MAXIMUM,,3 lb of water retention is due to genetics ....italians have low water retention in many cases and so are latino fellas...so he has 2-3 lb of water not the typical 5-15 lb of the average hormonized fella..its due to genetic in part and due to the usage of the right hormones and knowing what he is doing,,

so to conclude this infantilian idea of yours...

ill explain once again,,


a fella that is 5'10 -4-5% and almost no water retention  is equivalent to 190-195lb that is 8% ...this is also why you thnk here that my pupil stavio is same size as rodrigez because THEY ARE SAME SIZE ..eventhough rodrigez has much more muscle due to him being in much beter conditon ...so my pupil stavio need to walk 195 to be considered rodrigez size...and thats why you all think they are same size

my pupil stavio sees reality for what it is and know rodrigez hodl more muscle on him because he know how to factor in the water and bodyfat....thats why he keep saying rodrigez is bigger,,,over all they are same size but stavio need to weight 20 lb more to get there...


so again! 175lb 4-5% wipe the day light with 180lb 8% ,,its liek a fella that is a gym rat compared with competetive bodybuilder that just won a show...big huge differences

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[TrueGrit]

Bin Laden's wife?

[gh15]

today, genetics mean absolutely nothing!
you can have the sickest frame in the world, but when you do not have the right connections to the right drugs....
you will not get anywhere...
when you do not have the (hgh) money , you will not get anywhere.
yet a guy with a crappy built but WITH the right connections will blow you out the water ....
he will have money and connections, will blow superior frame out of the water..!
sad, but true...
genetics meant something in 70 's and 80's...
we should have a new class of bb, the up to 5 iu's max of hgh class!
lol.... goodbye phill heath.... will expose those guys in a minute...

very VERY good,,this is right there the truth ,,everyone knows it but for some reason try to pass bodybuild nto for what it is but for what they want the local whore to think it is ,,very strange phenomenon

gh15 approved

[OptimusPrime1980]

very VERY good,,this is right there the truth ,,everyone knows it but for some reason try to pass bodybuild nto for what it is but for what they want the local whore to think it is ,,very strange phenomenon

gh15 approved

yes i know!
i mean i love bodybuilding... really.
but hate stupid liars who act like they are gods genetic gift to the world.
just lift weights and eat properly, and juice! that is it! it's not rocketscience...!
btw, gh15 love your posts....! lol!

[saucetradomous]

very VERY good,,this is right there the truth ,,everyone knows it but for some reason try to pass bodybuild nto for what it is but for what they want the local whore to think it is ,,very strange phenomenon

gh15 approved

Yes genetics mean nothing when you have access to all the right drugs, just ask palumbo.  Good response but shitty fucking frame.  Couldn't obtain a pro card but tried everything under the sun.

[Schmoe Buster]

yes i know!
i mean i love bodybuilding... really.
but hate stupid liars who act like they are gods genetic gift to the world.
just lift weights and eat properly, and juice! that is it! it's not rocketscience...!
btw, gh15 love your posts....! lol!

I couldnt agree more

[gh15]

Yes genetics mean nothing when you have access to all the right drugs, just ask palumbo.  Good response but shitty fucking frame.  Couldn't obtain a pro card but tried everything under the sun.

palumbo abused igf in doses you will not believe along with insulina in doses you will not believe,,he is not good example of bodybuilder,,he is soley drug abuser ,,you still need to lift weight ,,be consistant ,,keep symetry and proportion ,,you still need to be bodybuilder,,drugs is important yes but yuo still need to fuckin do the right thing along the way to get to the top

i never said you can take drugs and do nothing and become professional,,never did i say that,, i said you need to train and be consistant and hav eit all together WITH drugs inorder to make yourself into top competitor that get places,,

drugs are very important but the rest is too,,only thing i made sure is that you fellas know that diet is over rated when you have all you can eat gh buffer and trenbolona ace,,infact you will be walking 6% with most type of diet after long enough time on trenbolona ace and gh on and off

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[saucetradomous]

So if he gets bigger you will say he juices?

No, he could probably put on 3-5 more lbs over the next 5 years but that's about it. 10lbs in a year time would be impossible without assistance at the point he's at.  He hasn't moved from the 175lbs range in 3 years

[Schmoe Buster]

palumbo abused igf in doses you will not believe along with insulina in doses you will not believe,,he is not good example of bodybuilder,,he is soley drug abuser ,,you still need to lift weight ,,be consistant ,,keep symetry and proportion ,,you still need to be bodybuilder,,drugs is important yes but yuo still need to fuckin do the right thing along the way to get to the top

i never said you can take drugs and do nothing and become professional,,never did i say that,, i said you need to train and be consistant and hav eit all together WITH drugs inorder to make yourself into top competitor that get places,,

drugs are very important but the rest is too,,only thing i made sure is that you fellas know that diet is over rated when you have all you can eat gh buffer and trenbolona ace,,infact you will be walking 6% with most type of diet after long enough time on trenbolona ace and gh on and off

gh15 approved

Anyone who doesnt believe this is living with their head up their ass, Im on Trenbolona Ace 100mg per day,Masterona 100mg per day and gh15 approved kigtropina 15iu per day and have gotten ripped just eating as i normally do,no homo diet, no cardio, everyday i look a little bit more ripped, everyday new muscle lines appear, its like everytime you look in the mirror you look better, until ll the doubters have tried this and gotten the results you can shut up the fuck up and go jerk off to jroids pics

[loco]

not 5'6  and 6% ,,5'8 160lb 6% is possibel naturally ,,that zone  7lb for every inch

gh15 approved

I'm 5'6, and I was 160 lbs at 6% bf on stage.  I have never even seen steroids or any other performance enhancing drug in my life.  Strongest thing I ever tried once was Ephedrine when it was still legal, and never took it again because it kept me up all night.

I won my very first natural bb competition, my weight class anyway.  Passed my very first polygraph test before the show and because I won, I had to do a urinalysis test too, which I passed too.  The following year, I won my second competition.

This is why I believe JRod is natural and why I think you are mistaken in your so called limits for naturals.

[saucetradomous]

palumbo abused igf in doses you will not believe along with insulina in doses you will not believe,,he is not good example of bodybuilder,,he is soley drug abuser ,,you still need to lift weight ,,be consistant ,,keep symetry and proportion ,,you still need to be bodybuilder,,drugs is important yes but yuo still need to fuckin do the right thing along the way to get to the top

i never said you can take drugs and do nothing and become professional,,never did i say that,, i said you need to train and be consistant and hav eit all together WITH drugs inorder to make yourself into top competitor that get places,,

drugs are very important but the rest is too,,only thing i made sure is that you fellas know that diet is over rated when you have all you can eat gh buffer and trenbolona ace,,infact you will be walking 6% with most type of diet after long enough time on trenbolona ace and gh on and off

gh15 approved

Obviously he trained.  He came out of prison looking pretty decent assuming he only got 50% of the shit he was normally used to getting.

[OptimusPrime1980]

Yes genetics mean nothing when you have access to all the right drugs, just ask palumbo.  Good response but shitty fucking frame.  Couldn't obtain a pro card but tried everything under the sun.

but he did beat a lot of guys with prettier frames!
he did not make it pro, but those days were much tougher to get a pro card.
today he would be a pro.... sad but true!

[gh15]

Obviously he trained.  He came out of prison looking pretty decent assuming he only got 50% of the shit he was normally used to getting.

palumbo was a drug addict,,nothign to do with training,,everything you can imagine,,he was on hypers,, he was 285lb at 5'9 very ripped and just look akeward cause nothing fit ...he was on lots of seo ,,lots of igf,,lots of hgh ,,lots of insulina,,lot and lots of trenbolona as in 200mg daily for years....he was on lots of narcotics,,he was on many other things from dnp at high doses to anything else in the book ,,he was just drug addict,,thats wy never did any damage ,,thats why never won anything significant

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