Can we say the quality of "music" has decreased over the past 20 years?

[wes]

Wrong muscularny,todays music really really does blow dead dogs.

[Cliff Clavin]

yes we can say that...

i feel sorry for the youth thinking todays music is relevant or lasting...90-95% is garbage in every way...

[DroppingPlates]

Regarding "hit music" absolutely, but not regarding electronic music

[muscularny]

Wrong muscularny,todays music really really does blow dead dogs.

in 30 years from now people will praise todays music and bash whatever the music then will be

in 30 years from now all presidents of the past 10-15 years will be hailed as heros regardless of what people say of them now. Ever talk to a old fuck about Regan? Go back and see the bickering that was going on while he was in power, if you dont you will think his approval rating during his presidency was 150%.

[Parker]

You guys don't know where too look for real music.

Or for awesome music clips for that matter. 

I was laughing my ass off with this crazy vid...


Quality of music just like the quality of everything has gone down. The quality of people as wellhas gone downhill as well.

Since the 80s, Corp. have been ever increasingly greedy and tryig to find the next best thing, they will sign and market people or create a new artist---and the fact that everyone wants to be a star doesn't help the situation...

[Palpatine Q]

LOL @ DJ 181  posting his little mixtape of songs he thinks are "gems",trying to impress us.

they are actually middle of the road crap that we have ALL heard before. your taste in music sucks

[Roger Bacon]

Yes, and on my way back from the gym I was thinking...

If I get in a fucking wreck because I'm frantically searching for a song that's not annoying as piss I'm going to sue the fuck out of all these fucking radio stations.

[ManBearPig...]

for every type of music you used to like or that you think is "awesomes and todayz suckz", there's a present day equivalent that's going to be just as praised.

for example:  the talking heads were awesome because they had a lot of awesome songs, but some of their songs just suck shit and are painful to listen to.

hell, if anything today's music is better because it is so competitive, and no one's buying records anymore, so live performance is just as, if not more important than it used to be.  the last concert i saw was kings of leon, and even though they have ZERO personality (didn't say hi or bye, never spoke between songs, just rifled off their set and left), their sound was spot on.  and you old farts all must have stories of horrible stage performances by bands you worshipped as a kid.  "back then", you were told that bands were awesome and you took it as granted.  now , if you have 5,000 bands that you are told are awesome, your bullshit detector will go off and you'll listen to what you like.

example: most of us can agree that neil young is a rock icon for many reasons; but his last performance i saw he was just walking around and playing his one note solos and letting the amp's feedback do most of the work.  time to hang it up stud, you ain't what you used to be.

[#1 Klaus fan]

LOL @ DJ 181  posting his little mixtape of songs he thinks are "gems",trying to impress us.

they are actually middle of the road crap that we have ALL heard before. your taste in music sucks

Meltdown.

[Griffith]

The main difference is that before, you needed a really good voice.

Today that's not always important if you have the looks or image that can be promoted, or more importantly just a good team behind you, writing the songs, creating the music, creating your image and promoting you.

[Jussup]

I share the overall impression of "music" going downhill, particularly when it comes to mainstream music.
Having said, awesome "subgenres" have evolved that didn't exist 20 years ago. For me, being a metal head  - with much appreciation for the "classics" like Priest, Maiden - "symphonic metal" is one of those new most awesome subgenres with bands like Therion, Haggard, Epica - true art.

[dj181]

[gh15]

Again read what I wrote, every generation makes the same claims about the up and coming generation, remember, at one point in the late 40's early 50's people where making fun of people who need a phone in their house.

So again, I ask you to educate yourself and not be late to the party all the time by simply stating what you think and feel for the moment, (remember it took you years to appreciate tren, all along stating what you felt based on nothing other than thinking you know it all). Study history and you will see the yelling and screaming about the new up and coming generation has been going on as long as humans have been around.

Last but not least, nothing is going to change back to how things where, people can cry kick and scream on blogs and on youtube. Things will get worse in the eyes of the older people while the younger people will just trek along and get with whatever new sites, programs and whatever else is thrown at them.

Adapting is better then turning stale, so people stop crying and get with the program, because AT the end of the day you will anyway have to get with it, you might as well do it from the get go.

very very good posting,,i wish it was true...

see the problem is this generation is not like the others before it ,,the others before it had their problems and were nto accepted by the oldies to begin with ...but! every generation brought something to the world...this one brought nada..remember im talking about something you can feel touch emotional something that can touch your spirit ...this generation did nothing of the such ...absolitly nothing of the such

your post is very nice and i like it ,,but! i wish it was true i realy do ,,nothing to do with trenbolona,,i always knew it was amazing drug but i decided not to give it out at the beggining due to personal reasons same as with insulina...i just didnt want newbes to do stupid shit until i said fuck it ill say it just as it is ...and wotn hide a thing,,

now..  this generation not only did nothing but it also regressed our world backwords...yes we are more advanced in electronics...but we are very very seperated mentally and emotionally ,, not too many friends and im not talking buds here im talkin friends,,everyone to his own ,,just drive on the road and you will see how fucked up people became..alot diff than what it used to be alot diff,,

things like face book ruined familys ,,girls cheated guys cheated ,,people just want sex ,,all materialistic,,and no it wsnt always like this,,its been like this only last 15 years..since 1993-1994 it started to penetrate and 1995-96 its hen the cancer started to spread...  

all the advancement are not real advancments...they are just easy way to lve life for humans ,,,it doesnt advance us ,,we are still dot in space ,,only very emotionless money hungry islolated dot in space,,

its really hard to explain it on here ,,much easier in real life when you with me and i can show you this,,

why would a fella like palin daughter want to change her pretty face and cut her chin bone? why? because looks is only thing that matters,,

why rodrigez want to be bodybuilder and lie about natural status to achieve something? becauss look is only thing that matters

why is dj from this boarding going on the nerves of groink from this boarding and talking ebonics every single time? because thats what he knows from this fucked up generation of wanna be hood getto gangster shit,,he wasnt born like this ,,he was born into this generation!  thats the reason groink doesnt like him becaus of this way he talk not becauses of his physiqe...you fellas dont get it

why do you think brian williams is the joke of tv when tom brokow was the master of tv....? because people lost respect to the news....because they see unqualified whores on fox news that have no idea about news making and only thing how good their fake push up bra cleavage look on tv and if they mentioned their local dat football payer or hocky player that they about to marry and then divorce after 6 months of fucked up marriage since they didnt know eachother and didnt marry from love....

you see where im geeting at?

there are so many examples its not even funny,,if it was funny i would laugh but its very sad,,we are going backwords...yes electronicaly we advance yes you can post online in a second ,,but! the teens of today are emotionless creaturs,,they have crocodile tears,,they do not enjoy sex ,,they just cum! they do not thikn about anything but how to lose weight when it come to girls and how to fit in with generation nothingness that is all about how much more fake one can look,,it goes for guys too ...and they do hormones not for bodybuild but for look ,,,

it is way more complicated than just generational differences and old people thing this and that,,im young,,im young  in age and atleast 20 years younger in my mental age and spirit ,,im stuck at 19-20 so im young when it comes to  spirit so this is just how it is ,,i was there in the 80s and i am here in 2011 and 2011 is very very bad,,very very very bad,,really nothign to write home about ...about anything

and i garentee you this generation will go down as the worst generation in history

gh15 approved

[gh15]

LOL @ a drug dealer steroid guru gimmick being all high and mighty branding the entire generation after him as if he himself is a huge success and we should all follow his example

lol at the retard that thought he was 14% when he was 9-10....

you lol for many reasons in life,,

i state truth and it sometimes hurts ,,but you are part of this generation fo losers that even when i told you the truth about how low bodyfat you were you still didnt think you were less than 14% ,,why? because your generation is so fucked ,,so plastic surgery fucked,, so hormonal fucked,,so look fucked that you really only look at perfect air brush magazine as reality and really dont think they are decent unless they look like the magazine to the t ....see sarah palinfucked up daughter and any other americano whore around ,,most of them atleast

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[oldtimer1]

Yes the quality has gone down hill.  Music is engineered in the studio.  A real band can't reproduce it live.  That's why all these pop stars sing with a "band" that's playing along to tracks.  They could never sing live without their voice auto tuned adjusted with a reverb.  When you see the current pop stars sing it is lip synced to about 80% of the song.  

Real music coming from a real band sounds fantastic but people are so use to factory engineered music that it sounds bad to them.  Even wedding bands are playing to recorded tracks.  The drums are real and the singing.  Everything else is mainly for show.

Where are the new rock bands today?  They are few and hard to find.  In the 60's, 70's and part of the 80's there were still exciting rock bands breaking on the scene.  Now fast forward to 2000's they are practically non existent.

When I go to hear live music now I go to see a Jazz icon like David Sanborn.  All of the music is live and from real muscians.  I wouldn't pay a penny to see someone like Usher lip sych to factory recorded engineered band playing.

I will say one thing about American Idol love the show or hate it.  It shows kids that really can sing.  The pop stars of today would be embarrashed to sing next to one of these kids.  Could you imagine a current pop star singing live with just an acoustic guitar?  I bet  two out of the current 25 pop stars could do that.

[gh15]

The main difference is that before, you needed a really good voice.

Today that's not always important if you have the looks or image that can be promoted, or more importantly just a good team behind you, writing the songs, creating the music, creating your image and promoting you.

thats why....nothign is memorable,,thats why song doesnt stay on top long,,thats why i cant name even one song of puff dady beside his remake of every breath you take which is not his....and wass horrible by the way...thats why i cant name any song of anyone now day ,,and trust me i follow and try to follow ,,its just garbage ,,

you got 1 thats is decent on 1000 that are horrid!  ,,pink is decent,,she can write and play and write decent songs,,but in the 80s she wouldnt even make top 10,,still she is ok for this generation ,,she got talent,,not even close to the masterpiecs of the past but for this generation its ok

gh15 approved

[gh15]

hahaha meltdown

FYI I said 11% not 14, and I dont give a fuck about palin or magazines or plastic surgery, you're talking random gibberish and I give it as much weight as I give a fly

Xerxes approved

thats the problem ,,you dont know right from left,,you are delusional,,the exact definition of one! part of generation nothingness,,thats just how it is

gh15 approved

[gh15]

I know right from left, I am not delusional in any way shape of form. You are talking out of your ass and expect me to be bothered because you have a "cult following" here, rofl

I hope that one day, I can be a former thong wearing oiled up drug dealing steroid addict like you

Xerxes approved

lol,, i dont expect youi to be bothered thats the thing!!,, this generation is not bothered by anything lol thats the exact problem lol dont you get it

gh15 approved

[_bruce_]

Music is dying!

[Ex Coelis]

a lot of overweight old men lamenting their growing irrelevance to the world

[dj181]

[YngiweRhoads]

for every type of music you used to like or that you think is "awesomes and todayz suckz", there's a present day equivalent that's going to be just as praised.

for example:  the talking heads were awesome because they had a lot of awesome songs, but some of their songs just suck shit and are painful to listen to.

hell, if anything today's music is better because it is so competitive, and no one's buying records anymore, so live performance is just as, if not more important than it used to be.  the last concert i saw was kings of leon, and even though they have ZERO personality (didn't say hi or bye, never spoke between songs, just rifled off their set and left), their sound was spot on.  and you old farts all must have stories of horrible stage performances by bands you worshipped as a kid.  "back then", you were told that bands were awesome and you took it as granted.  now , if you have 5,000 bands that you are told are awesome, your bullshit detector will go off and you'll listen to what you like.

example: most of us can agree that neil young is a rock icon for many reasons; but his last performance i saw he was just walking around and playing his one note solos and letting the amp's feedback do most of the work.  time to hang it up stud, you ain't what you used to be.

Good post. Most here don't seem to get that the music industry is dead, but music is thriving. The internet killed off the corporations and corporate music, but saved music itself by letting millions of musicians have a voice that would have until now, remained virtually unheard. The quality of musicians and musicianship out there is incredible. Today's musicians can get their music out to a large number of listeners without having to have corporate backing.

The net is the place to find quality music, period. Live shows have increased a thousandfold as that is how musicians currently make their living. Pop is, and always will be garbage. It's dumbed down music for women, mostly.

I'm one of the 'old farts' who happens to be very active in the current music scene. Like it or not, the music industry has evolved due to file sharing and the ease of access of new music. I for one, speaking as a working musician, think  that's a good thing.

[gh15]

Good post. Most here don't seem to get that the music industry is dead, but music is thriving. The internet killed off the corporations and corporate music, but saved music itself by letting millions of musicians have a voice that would have until now, remained virtually unheard. The quality of musicians and musicianship out there is incredible. Today's musicians can get their music out to a large number of listeners without having to have corporate backing.

The net is the place to find quality music, period. Live shows have increased a thousandfold as that is how musicians currently make their living. Pop is, and always will be garbage. It's dumbed down music for women, mostly.

I'm one of the 'old farts' who happens to be very active in the current music scene. Like it or not, the music industry has evolved due to file sharing and the ease of access of new music. I for one, speaking as a working musician, think  that's a good thing.

you know why live shows increased? because no one make records anymore lol ,,its waste no one buy it ,,the all record busines changed to gettign money from some moron of generation nothingess listen to you for 24 second before he get distructed by his weekly girl changing the chanel of tv to jersy licous or something,, people dont buy music ,,very very rare are the ones hwo buy cds,,there are some but minority and also not on regular basis ,, thats why live show because thats the only way to make money now day ,,since no one make record and no one has new material that is worth something,,every one rerun what they had before in a live show to make money becausee generation nothingess do like its beers and booz and they do like live shows because whores are there and its hook up place or place to go with the whore so later you come and nail her in the car after the live show ...if you listen to those shows though,,majority of the new bands cant even play ,,they just dont play well together ,,threy know 3 chords ,,they just having a show lol

what happened to music is shamful and disgusting ,,
ofcourse there is always diamonds among the shit but thsoe diamonds are very very rare now day and they are in a silent over kill minority ,,and even they dont have anymore music to play with ,,

music is dyin g,,been dying 15 years ,,final death will happen within 10 years ,,all will be remake like today only to a larger degree,,music is truly on the verge of death,,it alwys will be around...but it will be like the ring on the door ,,the dorr bell  ,,just something you walk around and listen to ,,,kinda like you hear the song friday im inlove in fridays restaurants all the time,,thats what music will become ,,elevator crap...and friday im inlove is great song BUT i jsut gave example for what music will become as in approach ,,elevator  attention type


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[YngiweRhoads]

you know why live shows increased? because no one make records anymore lol ,,its waste no one buy it ,,the all record busines changed to gettign money from some moron of generation nothingess listen to you for 24 second before he get distructed by his weekly girl changing the chanel of tv to jersy licous or something,, people dont buy music ,,very very rare are the ones hwo buy cds,,there are some but minority and also not on regular basis ,, thats why live show because thats the only way to make money now day ,,since no one make record and no one has new material that is worth something,,every one rerun what they had before in a live show to make money becausee generation nothingess do like its beers and booz and they do like live shows because whores are there and its hook up place or place to go with the whore so later you come and nail her in the car after the live show ...if you listen to those shows though,,majority of the new bands cant even play ,,they just dont play well together ,,threy know 3 chords ,,they just having a show lol

what happened to music is shamful and disgusting ,,
ofcourse there is always diamonds among the shit but thsoe diamonds are very very rare now day and they are in a silent over kill minority ,,and even they dont have anymore music to play with ,,

music is dyin g,,been dying 15 years ,,final death will happen within 10 years ,,all will be remake like today only to a larger degree,,music is truly on the verge of death,,it alwys will be around...but it will be like the ring on the door ,,the dorr bell  ,,just something you walk around and listen to ,,,kinda like you hear the song friday im inlove in fridays restaurants all the time,,thats what music will become ,,elevator crap...and friday im inlove is great song BUT i jsut gave example for what music will become as in approach ,,elevator  attention type


gh15 approved

Bullshit. You're on the money about touring to make a living but the rest of your post implies you don't attend many live shows and have no idea of the great music that's out there these days.

Now we have to work like everyone else, instead of sitting back and selling a bunch of records we have to play live to make a living. Wah wah wah.

The era of the mega band is over. The era of the working musician is here.

[Tom]

the big money nowadays at least for the major superstars isn't record/dvd sales, it's all about concerts and tours.

every generation has good music and crap music, i just hate now that the standard "pop" music on radio stations is either loud screaming and not even singing ( what happened to just standing there and singing and telling a story?) or it's "so called catchy hooks/beat" where it all sounds the same and you can't make out the words!