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« on: May 16, 2011, 04:32:29 AM »
Nursing Homes Seek Exemptions From Health Law
Rick Scibelli Jr. for The New York Times
Joanna D. Knox says her New Mexico nursing home cannot pay more for employee coverage.
By ROBERT PEAR
Published: May 15, 2011

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/16/us/16nursing.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=all
   


WASHINGTON — It is an oddity of American health care: Many nursing homes and home care agencies do not provide health insurance to their workers, or they pay wages so low that employees cannot afford the coverage that is offered.

Vanessa Valerio, a nursing assistant, says she cannot afford the $25 monthly payment toward insurance at Ms. Knox's facility.

The numbers are stark. Among workers who provide hands-on care to nursing home residents, one in four has no health insurance. Among those who provide care to people living at home, one in three is uninsured.

The new health care law is supposed to fix the problem by guaranteeing access to affordable coverage for all. But many nursing homes and home care agencies, alarmed at the cost of providing health insurance to hundreds of thousands of health care workers, have started a lobbying effort seeking some kind of exemption or special treatment.

Mark Parkinson, president of the American Health Care Association, the largest trade group for nursing homes, says the problem is that reimbursement rates for Medicaid and Medicare, set by government agencies, do not pay them enough to offer their employees medical coverage. “We do not have much ability to increase prices because we are so dependent on Medicaid and Medicare” for revenue, he said.

Mr. Parkinson acknowledged that when nursing homes do offer health insurance to employees, the benefits are often limited. The coverage “is probably not up to what will be required” by the federal law, he said.

Medicaid covers about two-thirds of nursing home residents. States set Medicaid rates, and many states, facing severe budget problems, have reduced payments for nursing homes.

Starting in 2014, the law will require employers with 50 or more full-time employees to offer affordable coverage or risk paying a penalty. For a midsize nursing home, that penalty could easily exceed $200,000 a year. Nursing home executives are urging Congress and the Obama administration to spare them from the penalties.

Vanessa Valerio, 25, a certified nursing assistant who earns $10 an hour at Lakeview Christian Home in Carlsbad, N.M., said she was uninsured because she could not afford the coverage offered by her employer.

The chief executive of the Lakeview nursing home, Joanna D. Knox, said the company used to pay the entire premium for employees. It now requires workers to pay $25 of the $585 monthly premium for individual coverage.

“When we started charging $25 a month,” Ms. Knox said, “many employees dropped coverage.” Of the home’s 200 employees, only 87 have elected it, she said, adding, “I don’t know how we could possibly absorb the additional cost of providing coverage for the other employees.”

Charlene A. Harrington, a professor at the School of Nursing at the University of California, San Francisco, said it would be a mistake for Congress or the administration to relieve nursing homes of the obligation to provide coverage to employees.

“It’s scandalous to have nursing home employees taking care of people when they themselves lack coverage and go without care,” Ms. Harrington said. “If employees have health insurance, they are more likely to be treated for illnesses, less likely to pass on infections to nursing home residents and more likely to get early treatment for occupational injuries.”

The rate of injuries in nursing homes is about twice the rate for all occupations, according to the Labor Department. Back injuries are common among those who lift patients and help them get in and out of bed.

Since the law was signed 14 months ago, the focus of lobbying has shifted. A tumultuous battle over the future of the health care system has given way to more concentrated efforts to undo or rewrite particular provisions.

Mr. Parkinson, a former Democratic governor of Kansas who is now the top Washington lobbyist for nursing homes, is pushing several ideas.

One option would give nursing homes more time to comply with the requirement to offer coverage. Another proposal, according to a list of options prepared by lobbyists for the industry, would waive or reduce the penalties for nursing homes “placed in financial distress as a result of the new mandates and fines.” Alternatively, Mr. Parkinson said, Congress could allow nursing homes to take tax deductions for the penalties, which under the 2010 law are nondeductible.

Home care agencies, which are even less likely than nursing homes to offer coverage to employees, are also seeking an exemption or financial assistance, contending that they would otherwise have to increase charges to their clients, older Americans and people with disabilities.

William A. Dombi, vice president of the National Association for Home Care, said the new law would impose “huge costs” on some of his members, who provide medical and social services to people living at home. In its legislative agenda for 2011, the association recommends that Congress “exempt home care providers from the employer responsibilities” or require Medicaid and Medicare to help defray the costs.

Debbie D. Gantz, administrator of the Sunset Estates nursing home in Purcell, Okla., south of Oklahoma City, said Sunset Estates did not offer health insurance to its employees.

“If I could afford to pay for it, I would,” Ms. Gantz said. “We are a small home. We are not part of a chain. We could not provide health insurance to our employees and still be able to pay all our bills and make the payroll.”

The Paraprofessional Healthcare Institute, a nonprofit group that studies the industry, says that 26 percent of front-line workers in nursing homes and 37 percent of those employed by home care agencies are uninsured.

Under the new law, coverage is deemed unaffordable if an employee’s share of the premium exceeds 9.5 percent of his or her household income. That could often be the case for nursing assistants, who provide the bulk of direct care in nursing homes, for wages that typically range from $10 to $12 an hour. In such cases, employers would be subject to penalties.

Supporters of the law say several provisions will help low-wage workers who are uninsured or have bare-bones coverage. The law will expand Medicaid to cover people under 65 with income less than 133 percent of the federal poverty level, and it will offer subsidies to make insurance more affordable to those with incomes from 133 percent to 400 percent of the poverty level ($24,645 to $74,120 a year for a family of three).

“This assistance could significantly increase coverage among direct-care workers because 80 percent of them have income less than 400 percent of the poverty level,” said Dorie K. Seavey, director of policy research at the Paraprofessional Healthcare Institute.


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Re: Nursing Homes Seek Exemptions From ObamaCare - LMFAO
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2011, 04:38:16 AM »
The chief executive of the Lakeview nursing home, Joanna D. Knox, said the company used to pay the entire premium for employees. It now requires workers to pay $25 of the $585 monthly premium for individual coverage.


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The economically illiterate and blind as a bat obama should have tackled the issue and addressed the reasons why monthly coverage is so fucking high, not do everything imaginable to exacerbate the problems and general reasons driving those high prices. 


Again - leftists like TA, Benny, Straw, Blacken et al keep telling me how smart and intelligent Obama is.  Where?   Please anyone show me one example of his supposed brilliance. 

Stim Bill was supposed to keep UE UNDER 8%  - FAIL

BamaCare was supposed to bring down costs - FAIL   

etc etc.   

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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2011, 05:44:12 AM »
Old article but still relevant.

Corporate Giants at Odds with Health Care Law
 By MICHELLE HIRSCH, The Fiscal Times

March 24, 2011-President Obama’s signature health care reform law just passed its one year anniversary, but many companies have yet to come to terms with what the new law will mean for their operating costs and bottom lines. Large firms flush with low-wage workers will get hit hard because their bare-bones, low-cost employee health insurance policies don’t comply with the new law, which takes effect in 2014.  These companies will have two choices: offer an unlimited insurance minimum, or reduce their workforces. 

So far this year, the Department of Health and Human Services has granted 1,040 waivers to companies, insurers and unions wanting to continue offering enrollees limited health-benefit or mini-med plans, which cap payments at $2,000 annually — a practice which is at odds with the law’s 2011 requirements that companies provide each employee a minimum of $750,000 in yearly coverage, increasing to $1.25 million in 2012, $2 million in 2013, and unlimited in 2014. Examples of exempted organizations are Ruby Tuesday, Jack in the Box, United Federation of Teachers, McDonald’s, Cracker Barrel, United Agricultural Benefit Trust, and Waffle House. 

(The Fiscal Times contacted a number of exempt companies and organizations but all declined to comment.)

McDonald’s Corp. was the first to petition for an exemption this fall after the company threatened to stop offering health insurance for 30,000 employees on mini-med plans. In addition to protesting the coverage cap increase, McDonald’s argued that a new 2011 mandate requiring all insurers to pay out at least 80 percent to 85 percent of all premiums on health care claims would jeopardize the company’s ability to provide the plan if the insurer balked.

The health law might lead large firms that employ multiple wage groups to separate out their employees and push the lower-wage workers toward exchanges, while leaving the health plans of higher-wage workers intact, said Joe Antos, a health economist at the conservative American Enterprise Institute. “But thinking about the McDonald’s story, and others in the same boat, you can’t section off the low-wage workers,” Antos said. 

“Those companies won’t be able to subsidize insurance coverage, these workers won’t get a raise in wages, they’ll lose their health insurance, and many of them won’t be able to buy it in exchanges because it will be significantly more expensive for these workers accustomed to minimal mini-med payments … (workers) will be worse off than they are today.” For that reason, it’s likely that HHS may consider longer-term waivers past 2014, Antos said. Otherwise, it’s possible that these companies will pay the $2,000 per person fine for some workers, and make up the cost by laying off others, he said. 

Though the waivers allow these organizations to avoid steep cost increases and maintain mini-meds temporarily, they don’t answer the bigger question of how large companies with low-wage workers will revamp hiring practices, health care offerings, and overall company operations to accommodate a 2014 federal law requiring large companies to offer full-time employees a more generous benefits package or pay the government a $2,000 fine. 

“It’s reasonable to presume that employers will gradually stop offering health insurance altogether in these situations,” said Austin Frakt, a health economist and professor at Boston University’s School of Public Health. “I don’t see where that revenue would come from to offer a much more generous product, since worker wages are already so low and there’s no room for trade-off there,” he said, adding that the most logical place for these workers to go for insurance would be the state health insurance exchanges.

State health insurance exchanges are government-organized marketplaces where individuals, families and small businesses can seek health insurance by pooling together with others to negotiate quality care and low premium rates.  According to the Congressional Budget Office, about 24 million people will buy coverage through these exchanges by 2019. Between 2014 and 2017, only businesses with 100 or fewer employees can join the exchanges. After 2017, states can raise or eliminate that cap.

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Re: Nursing Homes Seek Exemptions From ObamaCare - LMFAO
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2011, 05:47:11 AM »
Good article.   This is exactly why Obama, and everyone who plans to vote for him, are pofs asswipes intent on collapsing the nation.

We have the most economically inept and ignorant assholes making policy.   Its unbelievable. 

 

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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2011, 07:10:51 AM »
Tell me again why Obama deserves a second term when his signature law turns out to be a massive failure?

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Re: Nursing Homes Seek Exemptions From ObamaCare - LMFAO
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2011, 08:24:16 AM »
i'd kill for $25 monthly health insurance :(

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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2011, 08:26:25 AM »
i'd kill for $25 monthly health insurance :(

I guarantee you she is an obama voter. 

Imagine paying $25 for health insurance and complaining about it?   

Typical liberal thief and parasite.   

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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2011, 08:37:54 AM »
I guarantee you she is an obama voter. 

Imagine paying $25 for health insurance and complaining about it?   

Typical liberal thief and parasite.   


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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2011, 09:20:13 AM »

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/161203-hhs-approves-200-more-new-healthcare-reform-waivers-


HHS approves 200 more new healthcare reform waivers

The Obama administration approved 204 new waivers to Democrats' healthcare reform law over the past month, bringing the total to 1,372.

The waivers are temporary and only apply to one provision of the law, which requires health plans to offer at least $750,000 worth of annual medical benefits before leaving patients to fend for themselves. Still, Republicans have assailed the waivers as a sign of both favoritism and of major problems with the law.


"The fact that over 1,000 waivers have been granted is a tacit admission that the healthcare law is fundamentally flawed," Energy and Commerce Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) said in March. Upton is one of three House committee chairmen who has used new oversight powers to investigate the annual limit waivers.

Administration officials say the law allows the Health and Human Services Department to grant the waivers to avoid disrupting the insurance market before the law overhauls the insurance system in 2014. They say the waivers are granted through a transparent process.

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Re: Nursing Homes Seek Exemptions From ObamaCare - LMFAO
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2011, 09:23:59 AM »
but - obama got osama!

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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2011, 09:28:13 AM »
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/161203-hhs-approves-200-more-new-healthcare-reform-waivers-


HHS approves 200 more new healthcare reform waivers

The Obama administration approved 204 new waivers to Democrats' healthcare reform law over the past month, bringing the total to 1,372.

The waivers are temporary and only apply to one provision of the law, which requires health plans to offer at least $750,000 worth of annual medical benefits before leaving patients to fend for themselves. Still, Republicans have assailed the waivers as a sign of both favoritism and of major problems with the law.


"The fact that over 1,000 waivers have been granted is a tacit admission that the healthcare law is fundamentally flawed," Energy and Commerce Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) said in March. Upton is one of three House committee chairmen who has used new oversight powers to investigate the annual limit waivers.

Administration officials say the law allows the Health and Human Services Department to grant the waivers to avoid disrupting the insurance market before the law overhauls the insurance system in 2014. They say the waivers are granted through a transparent process.


The law is so great that it won't need waivers....Oh, wait.

Waivers=Proof that obamacare is a failure even before it goes in effect

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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2011, 09:30:10 AM »
Worst part is that ObamaCare is causing private insurance to spike and get beyond the grasp of millions of self employed, 1099's, etc. 


Its not even funny any more.  I hope Obama goes to the same place Osama went for what he is doing.   

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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2011, 04:24:46 PM »
I tried to scan the powerpoints from the luncheon I went to last a few months ago put on about the health care bill and its impacts on small businesses but it didnt come out well. Ill try again tomorrow, it really does lay out how this bill is going to hamper and crush some small businesses and how it will have the exact opposite effect on premiums and coverage that it intends to.

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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2011, 04:32:49 PM »
I hate the State.

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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2011, 04:35:19 PM »
lol deicide did you donate to that organization?


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« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2011, 04:37:34 PM »
lol deicide did you donate to that organization?



I have multiple times; it's one of my favourite Libertarian websites...

Your donation keeps www.antiwar.com alive! ;)
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2011, 05:02:27 PM »
LMFAO what benefits have you seen from your donations and the donations of others?

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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2011, 05:06:26 PM »
LMFAO what benefits have you seen from your donations and the donations of others?

Well, the site lives off of grass roots donations...what benefits...hmm, great interviews, articles and the continuation of the site...! :)
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2011, 05:21:07 PM »
Well, the site lives off of grass roots donations...what benefits...hmm, great interviews, articles and the continuation of the site...! :)
LOL I meant towards the end of no wars...

but if you feel you get your moneys worth who am i to say otherwise, keep on keeping on broham

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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2011, 05:24:09 PM »
LOL I meant towards the end of no wars...

but if you feel you get your moneys worth who am i to say otherwise, keep on keeping on broham

Well, no. It's a fair point but it takes more than Libertarian website to end the wars...the American people need to not want to be in the wars too...and I think we are a small minority.
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2011, 05:26:10 PM »
"We". You fled America over a decade ago. You're an American in name only, douche bag. Why hold onto your passport when you clearly despise this country?

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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2011, 05:40:30 PM »
"We". You fled America over a decade ago. You're an American in name only, douche bag. Why hold onto your passport when you clearly despise this country?

I lived in New York last year. I do not despise the country because I hate the government's foreign policy and its corruption.

You would do well working for Fox News.

But I do appreciate your usual infantile demagoguery, I was getting worried there for a second.  ;)
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2011, 05:42:56 PM »
I lived in New York last year. I do not despise the country because I hate the government's foreign policy and its corruption.

You would do well working for Fox News.

But I do appreciate your usual infantile demagoguery, I was getting worried there for a second.  ;)

Fact of the matter is that you couldn't hack it in this country so you've spent the last 15 years drifting from country to country working whatever shit job you can manage while amassing as many useless degrees as you can muster. Career student.

Do you consider yourself a 'citizen of the world' as you gallop around the world and bounce from school to school on daddy's dime?

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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2011, 05:48:18 PM »
Well, no. It's a fair point but it takes more than Libertarian website to end the wars...the American people need to not want to be in the wars too...and I think we are a small minority.
I think the vast majority would prefer to never be at war, its not that simple though.

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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2011, 05:51:31 PM »
Is there anyone not seeking a waiver from bamacare.