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Re: pm question answered
« Reply #125 on: May 25, 2011, 08:40:09 PM »
Who's Mike Arnold?

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« Reply #126 on: May 25, 2011, 09:03:19 PM »
"I've been trying to figure out who Gh15 is, but it's difficult because it's not just one person...at least 3 people are attached to the account. One of them may very well be a pro, but regardless, GH15 has a very blatant agenda....and in my opinion, he is (or one of the 3 is) a drug dealer. In a nutshell, here is GH15 in his own words:

no 3 people no 5 people no 10 people ,,1 single individual ,,ifbb pro ,top tier and great champion of bodybuild,,


* He moderates over at "Get Big" and has Admin powers. ,, gh15 has no moderating powers on getbig.com ask ron and bobbie can tell you that too,,

* He is a current pro. He is the truth and the way. He is the "God of Hormones"....all other are liars and will mislead you. ,,that is correct ,,the only god of hormones original right here talking to you and fixing your balonie why i bother? because ill put you as example for my power,,  not all liars ,,many are not all! read the bible carefuly next time dont make up balonie

* He claims anyone can turn pro, but they have to use the right drugs in the right way. correct! 100% correct,,90% of individuals can turn pro if given right legit products including dose and know how to take them  and how to stay consistant with bodybuild

* He claims that all pros use the same exact drugs in the same exact manner. ,,lie,,we use same products not always exact same manner and not always same doses it depend on our sizes and heights,,you lie once again you filth narc

* He claims that only he knows what the pros do and how others can get there to....but you must listen to him and do exactly as he tells you regarding drug use, or you will not succeed. wrong again ,,never askd to listen to me UNLES  you want to be sucesful in top bodybuild,,again you twist the truth

* He claims that almost all drug sources are complete garbage and almost no one knows where to get good quality drugs, which are 100% essential for success. no i always call my elfs the best sources ,, my elfs are group that is approved by gh15,, many sources are garbage and they create no ones such as your sorry ass with bunk products like ip.... but there is quite a good group elf approved and gh15 approve them ,,my elfs are highly knowledgable bodybuilders spread among steroid boards and highly respected member with very high iq ,,i chose them specificaly for their experience and they never dissapont me ,,you yourself wanted to be an elf and was DENIED!  


Since GH15 is the ONLY one who knows what needs to be done to go pro, knows what every pro uses, claims that all pros use the exact same drugs in the same fashion at all times, and that almost every drug source is garbage, it would stand to reason that GH15 would be very consistent in his drug recommendations. The problem is, GH15's drug recommendations change with the wind. He has done a complete 180 several times concerning what "all" pros do and what "needs" to be done in order to go pro. NO,,I STILL CLAIM EQUIPONA IS GREAT DRUG BUT EQUIPONA IS BUNK IN MANY TIMES DUE TO POOR QUALITY OF RAW ,,IT IS NOT PASTY IN MANY TIMES AND IT GET IN POWDER AND THAT IS NOT LEGIT EQ,, EVEN IF IT GET TO YOU LIQUID IT IS IN MANY TIMES LOW QUALITY ,,VET IS VERY GOOD BUT MY PUPILS ARE DESERVE PRIME KNOWLEDGE TO WHATS THE BEST TO USE THAT IS AVAILABLE AND LEGITIMATE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY SO THEY DONT END UP LIKE YOU A NARCOTIC ADD ..WHAT IS THE RIGHT DRUG AT THE RIGHT TIMING OF PREP,,IT IS HIGHLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS AND THAT IS WHY I KEEP CHANGIN PRODUCTS BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAS ITS PLACE  BUT IT COMES IN DIFFERENT TIMES IN THE PREP,,

It doesn't matter if his recommendations have changed a half a dozen times, you better believe the only thing that matters is what he says now! It doesn't matter if one year "ALL" pros use only Test, Tren, Mast, and EQ....and the next year it is Test, Deca, and D-bol....he is always right and everyone else is wrong. You see, GH15's recommendations are based on what he is selling (ooops) ...and the various reasons and excuses he has guive as to why his recommendations have changed over the years are hilarious and so far fetched one can only laugh. As a side note, just recently he was telling everyone you could NOT go pro unless you used grams of EQ all year round, but now it is no longer essential because "There is no longer any high quality EQ in circulation", according to him....or should we say he is no longer selling EQ...or because it is no longer as profitable for him. Anyone with any connection to AAS use in this sport immediately realizes how incredibly stupid it is for him to say he doesn't recommend EQ because there is no good EQ left....when it reality it is one of the most common and easy to obtain AAS in the world!  NO ,,EQ IS NOT SO EASY TO GET WHEN IT COME TO LEGIT ONE,,YOU ARE A NARCOTIC ADDICT! YOU HAVE NO CLUE TO WHAT PURE EQ IS AND HOW LOW THE QUALITY IS NOW DAY FOR THE USE OF IT NEEED TO BE IN VERY HIGH MG NOW DAY TO SEE THE 600MG RESULTS YOU SAW BACK 15 YEARS AGO ...  EQ IS IN MAJORITY LOW GRADE NOW DAY ,,IF YOU HAVE GOOD COOK WITH GOOD CONECTION YOU CAN STILL GET IT IN HGIH QUALITY BUT MOST DO NOT,,GH15 RECOMENDATION NEVER CHANGED,,THE PRODUCTS CHANGE DEPENDENT ON THE INDIVIDUAL NEEDS,,COMPETETIVE BODYBUILD AT HIGHER BODYFAT LEVELS NEED TRENBOLONA AND TESTOSTERONA WITH GH INORDER GO GET SOMEWHERE ,,IF THEY ARE OLDER THEY WILL NEED IT EVEN MORE,,TESTOSTERONA NANDROLONA AND DIANABOLA ARE MORE USED BY YOUNGER FELLAS WITH ALREADY LOW BODYFAT AND FAST METABOLIZM ,,,AGES 20-28 IS THE AGES,, TODAY MOST FELLAS THAT ARE COMPETETIVE GO THE NEEDLE ROUTE AND STUCK WITH TRENBOLONA TESTOSTERONA GH AND MASTERONA AS A CULPRIT  WITH NPP IN AND OUT AND OFCOURSE THE GH USAGE IS FEW MONTHS ON FEW MONTHS OFF,,YOU NED TO READ THE BIBLE AND NOT JUST TWIST REALITY ,,YOU NEED TO REALY READ IT AND NOT MAKE UP THINGS ALONG THE WAY BECAUSE GH15 TAKE SPACE IN YOUR HEAD ,,IF YOU QUPTE SOMETHING QUOTE IT RIGHT,, MAKE SURE YOU DO NOT LIE TO THE FELLAS YOU WRITE TO BECAUSE EVEN IN THE MUSCULAR DEVELOP BOARDING GH15 IS WORSHIPPED AND IS READ RELEGIOUSLY,,SO THATS THAT

GH15 speaks ONLY in all or nothing fashion....everything is black or white....he exagerates excessivley, and he lies. NEVER LIED NOT EVEN ONCE! ,,I TALK IN BLACK AND WHITE BECAUSE THIS IS BODYBUILD ,,IF YOU HAD A CLUE AND DINDT LIE ABOUT IT YOU TOO WOULD SAY IT ,,BODYBUILD IS A GAME OF DRUGS ,,IT IS CONSISTANCY IN TAKING THOSE DRUGS ,,AND! WITH OUT TRENBOLONA AND GH YOUR CHANCES AT BECOMING TOP ARE VERY VERY LOW,,WITH OUT NPP TRENBOLONA TESTOSTERONAAND GH YOUR CHANCE AT GETTING ANYWHERE NOT ONLY PRO CARD ARE ZERO ,,and im not talking about all the stimulants and narcotics involved you flith of earth


GH15's contradictions are immense. He preys on and targes the young, naive, the uneducated...those whose dream it is to go pro and will do anythng to get there. He then "guides" these ignorant and passionate men in instructing them as to exactly what they "need" to take and how to take it if they want to make it as pros....and regardless of what drugs he is recommending at the time, it is ALWAYS massive dosages of several drugs at once....even for beginners. I am not kidding. GH15's recommendation to beginners is that they take "grams" of various different steroids all year round for years straight. Needless to say, this is horrible advice to young men wanting to maximize their BB'ing potential and longevity in the sport. He does not take health into consideration and quite frankly, his recommendations are likely to lead to significant health problems in a relatively short period of time. ,,not alwys massive doses,,not always ,,it depends,,you do neeed massive testosterona doses to gain the size you need to inorder to play with us big boys,,you also need massive gh doses inorder to be able to work all that testosterona ,,and most importantly you need to come lean enough so the blow up can happen right! with npp gh and testosterona while masterona is yoru anti estrogen ,,always been this way always will be with the top

It does not matter if you present undeniable evidence showing he is wrong about something....he will immediately discount you and call you a liar. He has threatened to "end the careers" of some who have challenged him in public, including msyelf. Whenever he is cornered with irrefutable evidence which contradicts his claims...he proclaims his infalibility and says that you are a destroyer of the truth and a stain on the industry. More so, he has admin powers over on his board, "Get Big", and if anyone begins to make him look bad in any way, will use them to erase and alter posts whenever necessary...whatever it takes to maintain his cred. He refuses to debate with anyone on any baord, unless they do it over on "his" site.,,its not my site i have no power of administrator or moderator ,,i never want one,,im god of hormones for you and thats how you will know me ,, im never wrong period

He attacks many in the industry...even you (many times, in fact) spreading lies and flashood about various people...and it all centers on his primary agenda, which is to sell as many drugs as he can. Why does he attack you, Layne? It's simple...he attacks "all" natural BB'rs (especially you). He repeatedly claims NO ONE can get as big as you or any of the larger natural pros without drugs. He makes these claims because to admit otherwise would be to admit someone can get decently big without drugs...and that realization would challenge his proposition that NO ONE can gain any meaningful amounts muscle without drugs. In the end, that might cause him to lose customers who would otherwise be lead to believe drugs are 100% necessary to get bigger than a fitness model....so he continually spreads the lie that all decent sized natural BB'rs use drugs. ,,i attackeed many including so call naturals because they lie,,they lie to make the rent! this is not nice and they ruin kids life ,,my pupils are generation they did not ruin or in other word didnt completely ruin because i rehabilitated them and made them true bodybuild,,the end

Because your the biggest name in natural BB'ing, due to your various accomplishments...he especially wants to attack you and make you out to be a liar. If he can do that...he leaves his followers with no hope of achieving their dreams without drugs. huh? bigest name in bodybuild? i assume he talk about some natural probably skippi ,,they all hormonized   and make money on peptides selling and on advice they write as fake naturals so goolibles on internet ,,usless to even repond


Remember, if GH15 can get his followers to believe that no one can gain any respectable amount of muscle without drugs....that all pros use the exact same drugs in the exact same dosages and in the exact same manner.....that only he knows what that is....and that if you don't do exactkly what he says, you stand no chance of ever achieving your dreams....what choice does that leave someone who has been sucked into this bullshit? Of course.....the next step is that these "followers" naturally pm GH15 and ask for "help" on where to go to get what they need. Mission accomplished."

gh15 got his pupils to adore him for a simple reason ,,he told them the truth ,,trust me when gh15 die all of my pupils will remember me ,,all of them ,,all next generations will know who was telling the truth ,,when mike arneld is gone of bodybuild like i promise,,there will be a little article saying it and mayb epalius will say gh15 strike again! but thats going to last about 2 day with generation nothingess,,maybe 2 hours...

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Re: pm question answered
« Reply #127 on: May 25, 2011, 11:08:05 PM »
Fuck the haters.

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Re: pm question answered
« Reply #128 on: May 26, 2011, 05:49:54 AM »
Because your the biggest name in natural BB'ing, due to your various accomplishments...he especially wants to attack you and make you out to be a liar. If he can do that...he leaves his followers with no hope of achieving their dreams without drugs. huh? bigest name in bodybuild? i assume he talk about some natural probably skippi ,,they all hormonized   and make money on peptides selling and on advice they write as fake naturals so goolibles on internet ,,usless to even repond

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« Reply #129 on: May 26, 2011, 08:14:57 PM »
First off, thanks for all your posts and insight on this board.

I'm quite positive you get a ton of pm's, I'd greatly appreciate a reply, it would help me out. I've been lurking and reading for quite a while.

I'm 24, at 6'1 197 10-12%, need to put on some size and I'm done playing with phs (hdrol ran it twice). This crap ain't taking me anywhere and I need to fill out.

All i know is what some ifbb figure and bikini chicks (gf) take, which doesn't help me out. I'm fking frustrated trying to maintain a physique without losing size pussyfooting around phs and natty bs supps. All you've mentioned about the tapuerwers, not being able to live out as much as i could, and buying worthless bs supps, I've done it. I was too naive and I've believed in a lot of bs from this industry, up until I woke up about 6 months ago. 

I'd appreciate your insight, to take my time building quality and maintaining the streamlined physique, could you suggest me an initial cycle? Not rushing into "balonieing." If it tells you anything what I look up to, Zane, Bannout, Haney and Dexter Jackson are dream physiques.

A goal physique down the road (years from now) would be 1999 Dexter's physique. I'd love to step on stage.

Again appreciate your input,

Thanks

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this is exactly what you need to do for what you want,, i leave diet up to you ,,i leave training up to you,,this is the drug regimen you need to follow,,

you start with trenbolona ace 150mg every 2 day and testosterona propioneta 50mg every 2 day,,gh 5 iu a day  you go like this 8 week ,,

after 8-12 week you should be 6-7% ,,

this is when you add npp and increase doses of testosterona to the grams inaddition to adding gh and take it up to around 7.5-10 iu for the look your desire


the testosterona should be at 1 gram a week preferably 1200mg a week of either sustanona or enantato what matter is that it is legit testosterona and not bunk!   if it is legit you will know it because you will thicken up very very  fast when low bodyfat and lean ,,you will grow by the week very fast,,trenbolona shoudl still be taken 150mg  every 2 day ,,npp should be at 100mg every 2 day ,,masterona should be at 75-150 mg every 2 day depending on your sensetivity to oestrogen

that is it ,,you go this way another 2 months,,

after about 6 months you are ready to enter competition of npc at state levels ,,about 6 months of serious hormone taking ,,sometime it can take up to a year with really average individuals but they all look great and turns heads right and left

good luck to you,,

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« Reply #130 on: May 26, 2011, 08:18:08 PM »
Gh15 this is my first pm question. I'm 28 years old been running cycle since about 22 years old. I was having a lot of success running long ester test only it gave me the look I was looking for. I usually get up to about 215 with 10-12 percent bf. I'm a gym rat not looking for bodybuilding size. Im 6'0 bye the way.

Well lately when I run test I get bloofy. I notice my face gets chubby I get very bloated just from 500mg of test. I don't like the look. Im thinking about running masteron for a few weeks. I have a bunch on the way masteron prop. I want to get my estrogen levels in check and melt off a bit of b.f.
How does this sound

Master prop 1-15 150mg eod
sustanon human grade 500mg ew 3-15

Im hoping the masteron will help me get my bf done a bit lower before I start the test. I don't have the money for much else.


Thank you!


i like masteron when bodyfat is already 8% or lower because thats when it impact the most and really give contribution when mega pounding the testosterona like any bodybuild does,,btu what you wrote is ok ,,it should help


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« Reply #131 on: May 26, 2011, 08:25:46 PM »
You have to understand that 99% of people here on Gb will never step foot on a BB stage!! They would love to have the Bloofy bloated look that a lot of pros have! The detail,, etc that you and a lot of the early pro's is gone!! It's all about size nowadays!! You of all people have to realize this!! These folks just wanna get huge to impress there friends and the odd passerby!! The stage is the last thing they ever want to do!! I see you get a little upset when they don't understand what you're saying...well,, they don't!! They don't care about stage!! Just Bigness!!

By the way,, your post are very informative!! Keep'em coming!!

what do you mean they dont,,my pupil stavio is driving himself nuts over some middle east look for already 2 years he is pondering and wondering,,he is all about quality ,,if he get too fat he get depressed like a woman on her period ,, many many want quality still ,,quality = size,,

but ok yes some dont want compete they want size and bloofiness only ,,ok its all good as long as they dont follow thsoe money eaters who tell them balonie

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« Reply #132 on: May 26, 2011, 08:28:52 PM »
Was Dorian weak?

Thanks.

far from it,,very strong,,but also average genetic that knew his hormones to the absolit t ,,he was and still is master of pharma drugs,,he is real good with that

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« Reply #133 on: May 26, 2011, 08:30:01 PM »
I was just wondering if you think its a must to run an anabolic with t3? I'm not really worried about muscle loss because i doubt it will be enough to worry about after a couple runs of clen/t3. I'm more concerned about getting lean. After I'm going to start using the protocols you have outlined in the Bible. Thanks for your time.

you want to have hormones in blood when running t3,,

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« Reply #134 on: May 26, 2011, 09:45:05 PM »
Meh...I say fuck off, ZIONIST.  ;D
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« Reply #135 on: May 26, 2011, 09:47:34 PM »
what do you mean they dont,,my pupil stavio is driving himself nuts over some middle east look for already 2 years he is pondering and wondering,,he is all about quality ,,if he get too fat he get depressed like a woman on her period ,, many many want quality still ,,quality = size,,

but ok yes some dont want compete they want size and bloofiness only ,,ok its all good as long as they dont follow thsoe money eaters who tell them balonie

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True bodybuilders get like this, I know you're not happy sitting at 12%bf, gh15, anything over that is crap

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« Reply #136 on: May 26, 2011, 11:05:39 PM »
hello gh15,
what hormones do you reccomend for Israeli bodybuilder? It is my understanding that us people are not meant to be huge but usually do end up with good quality physique aka Sagi Kalev vs the shit type Ukranian fella Steve Kuclo.. I want quality and size without ruining my physique. I think you would be impressed by some of the physiques down here because they absolutely destory the American generation nothingness that you see in American gyms.

and by the way.. you have many followers when I visited gyms in Israel, lots of gym rats talk about the fella gh15,  your reputation is godly half way around the world my friend. Even on the Jewish day of rest "Shabbat", people still use computer to read your postings when technology is forbidden that day lol.

  you are held in high regard with the Jewish people ..VERY high.  take care my friend

if you think this pm will cause problems you should leave my name out though. lots of racist fucks on this sight.

take care

 i couldnt give a flying fuck about the racists,,the owner of the site is a proud jew,,

israeli bodybuilder do best with trenbolona ace ,,cycling testosterona ,,equipona/nppiona and masterona ,,those are the products they look best on in a combo fo all 4,, you have there amit something i think and ofcourse sagi which is your best bodybuild aside from eli hana which is all seo but still he started it there that filthy thief lol but he is jew so he is ok  ,,also you have many israeli good bodybuilders i noticed,,yes isreal is becoming a good place for bodybuilding,,they also have good suppliers ,,some good ug suppliers too,,they do well and ofcourse human grade can be purchased too and teva  do the hgh and can get if smart... so yes israel bodybuilders do well now day

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Re: PM Questions Answered
« Reply #137 on: May 26, 2011, 11:06:47 PM »
From MD board today:

Quote from: Shawn Ray;2600582
"Would you consider having Nasser El Sonbaty on a round table discussion or on your radio show?"
Shawns reply: No, he is incredibly Negative and disenchanted with this industry. To sit and listen to him would be painful and depressing.
Nothing good to say about the people, the sport or the industry.
As he would say,"Read my book."
Appearently has a lot to say much of which I'd take with a grain of salt as the Truth is very elusive when he opens his mouth.

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« Reply #138 on: May 26, 2011, 11:12:39 PM »
fellas,, im exploded with pms,,you got to give me atleast 30 days from time yuo send pm ,,its hard to answer it all ,,and sometime i just feel liek being here and just hav fun ,, i answer within 30 days no need to worry ,,if i forget you i wont next time

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« Reply #139 on: May 26, 2011, 11:15:57 PM »
ill answer it all ill go and check it later,,just too many pms i skip some then it come to bite me in the ass,, ill answer it all dont you worry

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Re: pm question answered
« Reply #140 on: May 26, 2011, 11:22:48 PM »
i still find it hard not to use an oral  :(

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« Reply #141 on: May 26, 2011, 11:24:03 PM »
gh15,

I have a few questions I haven't seen you post an answer to these

1. What needle gauge do you recommend for IM injections in the ass ? Also what gauge should we use for GH/slin to the shoulder ?

22-25,, 1-1.5 inches  for gh and insulina use insulin needle 28-31 1/2 inch ...can be less than half inch between 1/4 and 1/2 inch...1/2 inch is to put it deeper in muscle but can do both since hgh can be also under skin

2. When fully injected the AAS, should we leave the needle in for about 30secs-1minute to fully disperse everything and should we pull out fast or slow after the injection ?

everything with injections should be done slowww and stable,,,sloooow and stable ,,injection should last a good 2 min ,,you should have pull back plunger to see if blood come in ,,if yes then injection begin from the start,,by blood i mean deep dark blood ,,also you need to inject slow especialy the more cc you inject,, no matter even if cook is the best in the business still inject slow becauswe there is such a thing as injection pain if not knowing how to inject

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« Reply #142 on: May 26, 2011, 11:27:04 PM »
you can use oral ,,just make sure you dont base your build on orals,,orals are ok just use them wisely ,,and always be in check with your estrogen ,,you cant completely eliminate estrogen but you cant have it sky high either,,you need to have it at balance and the right balanc FOR YOU ,,masterona gets the job done ,,it is such a good drug that within hours you will notice estrogen drop and you get drier...so then it depends... if you get dry enough to the level you want and have neough masterona you can add dianabol and anapolon to your cycles and blow up the right way ,,rememebr we dont want too many aromatizing products unless we have enough masterona to fight estrogenic sides which can be ugly on high testosterona and dianabolona...

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« Reply #143 on: May 26, 2011, 11:30:12 PM »
ill answer it all ill go and check it later,,just too many pms i skip some then it come to bite me in the ass,, ill answer it all dont you worry

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« Reply #144 on: May 27, 2011, 09:24:11 AM »
this is the last time gh15 is going to write this,,since i know everyone come to read gh15 first thing i expect you to read this and not asking me the same dumb question about this same subject in 5 hour,, i cant answer 20 pms about same exact thing it is waste of my time,, if i write something here it is holy ,,i tell you how we did it at the prime time of bodybuild,,

stop refering me to other boarding ,,i dont care what is there,,most individual on steroid boarding are living a lie and gain money from the sell of peptide and pct balonies and have agendas right and left ...like danta,, like lay nortom,, like the ron herise,, like other profesionals that sell products such seo and the such ,,

when i write here is for the last time in regarding this specific question ,,YOU READ IT,, IF YOU COME HERE FROM DIFF BOARDING YOU READ IT AND THEN UNDERSTAND IT ,,dont make account here just to ask me same thing again and again ,, i tlel you how it is done and i wrote it many times!

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we grow because we are lean! we grow because we are LEAN ,,WE GROW BECAUSE WE START THE GROWING PROCESS LEAN ! ,,IT IS IMPORTANTO TO UNDERSTAND ALL TOGETHER NOW...WE GROW BECAUSE WE ARE STARTING FUCKIN LEANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NN

OUR MISSION IS TO FIRST BECOME LEAN THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANTO THIGN IN COMPETETIVE BODYBUILD ,,TO GET AS LEAN AS YOU CAN AND THEN TO TRIGGER THE BOMB ,,this is very important to understand

1. we never go off hormones,,never ever NO MATTER WHO KEVIN ME CHIWAWI WHICH LOVED HORMONES LOVED HORMONES HE WAS SWIMMING IN THEM ,,TO THE MORE ABUSERS OF THE TIME SUCHAS DORIAN AND LIAR PRIEST ETC ,, WE NEVER GO OFF HORMONES,,


NOW ,, WE GET AS LEAN AS WE CAN FIRST ,,WE USE SPECIFIC PRODUCTS SUCH AS TRENBOLONA ACE,,HIGHLY IMPORTANT DRUG IN OUR REGIMEN ,,IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE WILL GO AND PAY EXTRA JUST TO HAVE THE BEST QUALITY AND WE WILL GO THROUGH HELL INORDER GO GET THE BEST QUALITY ,,THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER,, THEN WE ADD IT TO TESTOSTERONA IN LOW DOSE RELETIVLEY TO OUR SIZE... WE USE BOTH WITH HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE INORDER TO LOSE BODYFAT WITH OUT DOING ANY CARDIO AND WITH EATING PRETTY MUCH NORMAL PERSON DIET WITH MORE BALANCE OFCOURSE BUT A NORMAL PERSON DIET WHICH DOESNT INCLUDE 8 MEAL A DAY ,,AND THE DIF IS WE TAKE HIGH PROTIEN AND TRY TO KEEP IT GENERALY MORE HEALTHY AS IN SUSHI ,,AND GOOD MEATS BUT OVER ALL WHATEVER WE WANT IS OK AS LONG AS DONT SIT AND DRINK OIL AND BUTTER ALL DAY LONG



2. WHEN WE ARE READY TO GROW ,,AND IT IS ALWAYS WHEN WE ARE 6-7% WE BRING IN THE HIGH DOSES OF THE RIGHT DRUGS,,

THOSE DRUGS INCLUDE TESTOSTERONA LONG ESTER OR SUSTANONA IT GOES INTO THE GRAMS ,,THEN NPPIONA WHICH IS HIGHLY HIGHLY IMPORTANT DRUG THAT GIVE YOU THE THICKNESS YOU WANT FROM WITHIN THE MUSCLE NTO ONLY THE OVER ALL THICKNESS OF THE PHYSIQE BUT THICKNES OF INDIVIDUAL MUSCLES,,W ADD IT TO THE TRENBOLONA WHICH IS ALWAYS THERE IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW IT IS ALWYS THERE BECAUSE THIS IS OUR ANABOLIC FAT BURNER OF CHOICE ,,NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IT KEEP YOU BURNING FAT AND IF ALREADY VERY LOW BODYFAT IT KEEP YOU THERE WHILE GROWING!,,AND OFCOURSE THE MUTATION INTO THE MID 200S AKA 220 230 240 ONLY HAPPEN WITH HIGHER DOSES GH ,,USUALLY 15 + WITH EVERY PROFESIONAL WHO IS WORTH A SECOND LOOK ,, THE INSULINA IS THERE TOO ...SOME USE MORE SOME USE LESS ,,THIS GENERATION USE MORE AND YOU SEE IT IN THE POOR QUALITY PHYSIQES BUT! THE ONLY ! REASON FOR THE NASTY MUTATIONS YOU SEE AROUND IS SEVERE SEVRE ! ABUSE OF GH AND INSULINA ALONG WITH TRENBOLONA TO KEEP THE NASTY FACTOR ,,AND THE NASTY FACTOR IS PART OF ANY BODYBUILD WHO MAKE DAMAGE ,,SEE JASON IN 2009 O ,,SEE KAI ,,SEE ANY ONE OF THE 90S LEAD BY THE MURDERER WHO WAS SEVERE ABUSER OF TRENBOLONA !


now ,,diuretic,,diuretic is bodybuuld best friend ,,you will nevr be shrinked wraped into your skin with out water betwen the abdominal tunels unles you are on diuretic ,,thats why we have kidny problems among the ones who have no idea what they do and bodybuild who dont know their drugs well,,this is what causes the problems THE CONSTANT USAGE OF DIURETIC ,,we all do it ,,if we say we dont WE LIE,,


that is it friends,,i wrote it here prety clear,,read it many times before askin same questions again ,,

doses are high when it come to big size,,it always been this way ,,250 lb 5'8 is SWIMMIUG ON HORMONES AND MEGA DOSES OF THEM ! 5'10 210 ...isi using less but still swimming in hormones... again im talking conditioned bodybuild 6% 7% nto 15% ,,we all swim in hormones ,,when you talk about fellas who use little doses they are usualy 5'10 180-185lb on stage ...they also the ones who use lots of bunk stuff

there is a big hush hush around this because bodybuild does not want you to look like him ,,if you do then what make bodybuilder special? you got that right absolitly nothing,,IF YOU KNEW THAT DRUGS IS EVERYTHING AS IN 90% OF THE EQUIATION ...THEN WHAT MAKE THE BODYBUILD SPECIAL ,,HE JUST BECOME ANOTHER DRUG ABUSER ,,AND YOU FRIEND WILL FIND IT OUT YOUR OWN WAY ,,AND WHEN YOU DO YOU WIL BE FULL OF ANGER ,,AND YOU WILL THINK VERY LOW OF THOSE LIZARDS,, BUT YOU TOO WILL PROBABLY LIE,,THIS IS WHAT I TRY TO STOP ALONG THE YEARS,, AND I THINK I DID QUITE OK ,,THE LIES HAVE REDUCED ALONG THE SPECTRUM,,THEY ARE STILL THERE WITH THE SO CALL NATURALS AND STIL THERE WITH THE PUSHERS OF SUPPLEMTNS AND OTHER AGENDAS,,BUT THE LIES REDUCED DRAMATICALY FROM EARLY 2000S

good luck to you ,,be smart !

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Re: in regarding to pm floods
« Reply #145 on: May 27, 2011, 09:33:25 AM »
this is the last time gh15 is going to write this,,since i know everyone come to read gh15 first thing i expect you to read this and not asking me the same dumb question about this same subject in 5 hour,, i cant answer 20 pms about same exact thing it is waste of my time,, if i write something here it is holy ,,i tell you how we did it at the prime time of bodybuild,,

stop refering me to other boarding ,,i dont care what is there,,most individual on steroid boarding are living a lie and gain money from the sell of peptide and pct balonies and have agendas right and left ...like danta,, like lay nortom,, like the ron herise,, like other profesionals that sell products such seo and the such ,,

when i write here is for the last time in regarding this specific question ,,YOU READ IT,, IF YOU COME HERE FROM DIFF BOARDING YOU READ IT AND THEN UNDERSTAND IT ,,dont make account here just to ask me same thing again and again ,, i tlel you how it is done and i wrote it many times!

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we grow because we are lean! we grow because we are LEAN ,,WE GROW BECAUSE WE START THE GROWING PROCESS LEAN ! ,,IT IS IMPORTANTO TO UNDERSTAND ALL TOGETHER NOW...WE GROW BECAUSE WE ARE STARTING FUCKIN LEANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NN

OUR MISSION IS TO FIRST BECOME LEAN THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANTO THIGN IN COMPETETIVE BODYBUILD ,,TO GET AS LEAN AS YOU CAN AND THEN TO TRIGGER THE BOMB ,,this is very important to understand

1. we never go off hormones,,never ever NO MATTER WHO KEVIN ME CHIWAWI WHICH LOVED HORMONES LOVED HORMONES HE WAS SWIMMING IN THEM ,,TO THE MORE ABUSERS OF THE TIME SUCHAS DORIAN AND LIAR PRIEST ETC ,, WE NEVER GO OFF HORMONES,,


NOW ,, WE GET AS LEAN AS WE CAN FIRST ,,WE USE SPECIFIC PRODUCTS SUCH AS TRENBOLONA ACE,,HIGHLY IMPORTANT DRUG IN OUR REGIMEN ,,IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE WILL GO AND PAY EXTRA JUST TO HAVE THE BEST QUALITY AND WE WILL GO THROUGH HELL INORDER GO GET THE BEST QUALITY ,,THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER,, THEN WE ADD IT TO TESTOSTERONA IN LOW DOSE RELETIVLEY TO OUR SIZE... WE USE BOTH WITH HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE INORDER TO LOSE BODYFAT WITH OUT DOING ANY CARDIO AND WITH EATING PRETTY MUCH NORMAL PERSON DIET WITH MORE BALANCE OFCOURSE BUT A NORMAL PERSON DIET WHICH DOESNT INCLUDE 8 MEAL A DAY ,,AND THE DIF IS WE TAKE HIGH PROTIEN AND TRY TO KEEP IT GENERALY MORE HEALTHY AS IN SUSHI ,,AND GOOD MEATS BUT OVER ALL WHATEVER WE WANT IS OK AS LONG AS DONT SIT AND DRINK OIL AND BUTTER ALL DAY LONG



2. WHEN WE ARE READY TO GROW ,,AND IT IS ALWAYS WHEN WE ARE 6-7% WE BRING IN THE HIGH DOSES OF THE RIGHT DRUGS,,

THOSE DRUGS INCLUDE TESTOSTERONA LONG ESTER OR SUSTANONA IT GOES INTO THE GRAMS ,,THEN NPPIONA WHICH IS HIGHLY HIGHLY IMPORTANT DRUG THAT GIVE YOU THE THICKNESS YOU WANT FROM WITHIN THE MUSCLE NTO ONLY THE OVER ALL THICKNESS OF THE PHYSIQE BUT THICKNES OF INDIVIDUAL MUSCLES,,W ADD IT TO THE TRENBOLONA WHICH IS ALWAYS THERE IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW IT IS ALWYS THERE BECAUSE THIS IS OUR ANABOLIC FAT BURNER OF CHOICE ,,NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IT KEEP YOU BURNING FAT AND IF ALREADY VERY LOW BODYFAT IT KEEP YOU THERE WHILE GROWING!,,AND OFCOURSE THE MUTATION INTO THE MID 200S AKA 220 230 240 ONLY HAPPEN WITH HIGHER DOSES GH ,,USUALLY 15 + WITH EVERY PROFESIONAL WHO IS WORTH A SECOND LOOK ,, THE INSULINA IS THERE TOO ...SOME USE MORE SOME USE LESS ,,THIS GENERATION USE MORE AND YOU SEE IT IN THE POOR QUALITY PHYSIQES BUT! THE ONLY ! REASON FOR THE NASTY MUTATIONS YOU SEE AROUND IS SEVERE SEVRE ! ABUSE OF GH AND INSULINA ALONG WITH TRENBOLONA TO KEEP THE NASTY FACTOR ,,AND THE NASTY FACTOR IS PART OF ANY BODYBUILD WHO MAKE DAMAGE ,,SEE JASON IN 2009 O ,,SEE KAI ,,SEE ANY ONE OF THE 90S LEAD BY THE MURDERER WHO WAS SEVERE ABUSER OF TRENBOLONA !


now ,,diuretic,,diuretic is bodybuuld best friend ,,you will nevr be shrinked wraped into your skin with out water betwen the abdominal tunels unles you are on diuretic ,,thats why we have kidny problems among the ones who have no idea what they do and bodybuild who dont know their drugs well,,this is what causes the problems THE CONSTANT USAGE OF DIURETIC ,,we all do it ,,if we say we dont WE LIE,,


that is it friends,,i wrote it here prety clear,,read it many times before askin same questions again ,,

doses are high when it come to big size,,it always been this way ,,250 lb 5'8 is SWIMMIUG ON HORMONES AND MEGA DOSES OF THEM ! 5'10 210 ...isi using less but still swimming in hormones... again im talking conditioned bodybuild 6% 7% nto 15% ,,we all swim in hormones ,,when you talk about fellas who use little doses they are usualy 5'10 180-185lb on stage ...they also the ones who use lots of bunk stuff

there is a big hush hush around this because bodybuild does not want you to look like him ,,if you do then what make bodybuilder special? you got that right absolitly nothing,,IF YOU KNEW THAT DRUGS IS EVERYTHING AS IN 90% OF THE EQUIATION ...THEN WHAT MAKE THE BODYBUILD SPECIAL ,,HE JUST BECOME ANOTHER DRUG ABUSER ,,AND YOU FRIEND WILL FIND IT OUT YOUR OWN WAY ,,AND WHEN YOU DO YOU WIL BE FULL OF ANGER ,,AND YOU WILL THINK VERY LOW OF THOSE LIZARDS,, BUT YOU TOO WILL PROBABLY LIE,,THIS IS WHAT I TRY TO STOP ALONG THE YEARS,, AND I THINK I DID QUITE OK ,,THE LIES HAVE REDUCED ALONG THE SPECTRUM,,THEY ARE STILL THERE WITH THE SO CALL NATURALS AND STIL THERE WITH THE PUSHERS OF SUPPLEMTNS AND OTHER AGENDAS,,BUT THE LIES REDUCED DRAMATICALY FROM EARLY 2000S

good luck to you ,,be smart !

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gh15 I never undertood the "constant use" of diuretics...you said that in a lot of past and present posts.

What do you mean by this? Use it everyday to look dry?

How do you use it?

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Re: in regarding to pm floods
« Reply #146 on: May 27, 2011, 09:40:13 AM »
good post.

esp about growing lean. GH + the right compounds + cals in = lean tissue. you have to be LEAN for this to work. 5-6%. you won't get fat doing it like this. just put on slabs if lean. if you think your getting fat it's just the water from the GH. cut your carbs out for a day or two and 36-48 hours and you'll see it's only water. you won't need a diuretic to push the water out your body will release it on it's own.

GH/tren/prop/mast + cals @6%bf = freakshow in 3 months
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Re: in regarding to pm floods
« Reply #147 on: May 27, 2011, 09:46:08 AM »
Legit Deca can replace npp ?
(as it's really hard to find legit npp)

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Re: in regarding to pm floods
« Reply #148 on: May 27, 2011, 09:50:37 AM »
Legit Deca can replace npp ?
(as it's really hard to find legit npp)

no. not by a long shot. npp is a very special compound. once you try it you'll know why. it's the closest compound that comes near mimicking the effects of GH in terms of the kind of fullness it gives you. it literally blows your muscle up from the inside out.

tren = grainy density

npp = roundness and fullness of the muscle belly.
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Re: in regarding to pm floods
« Reply #149 on: May 27, 2011, 09:56:28 AM »
no. not by a long shot. npp is a very special compound. once you try it you'll know why. it's the closest compound that comes near mimicking the effects of GH in terms of the kind of fullness it gives you. it literally blows your muscle up from the inside out.

tren = grainy density

npp = roundness and fullness of the muscle belly.
Very interesting.