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Re: Genetics of a Pro!!!
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2011, 02:51:13 PM »
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We're talking about the roundness of muscle bellies, Low calf and low lat instertions, symmetrical abs....

Maybe Ronnie's bicep peaks are the result of trenbolona, while Levrone's flat biceps are due to Masterona?

Can drugs give me those things?

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hormones can not give you high peak if you never meant to have high peak ,,that's why we go seo ,,but the important thing in what i wrote that you need to read 100 more times is that hormones is what dictate how well you will do ,,and ONLY hormones and the legitimacy of those hormones,,what you see in picture is lean kid,,LEAN kid,,it doesn't matter what age ,,but if you want to grow right you need to first be lean ,,this is why i give you here my recommendations many time before,,

first get leannnn don't care about scale,, propioneta and trenbolona ace,, gh and masterona,,first get lean ,,get to 6% aftrrrrr you are there no mateter what weight even if 175 lb ...after you are there BLOW UPPP ON NPP,,GH ,,TESTOSTERONA ,,,only after you are lean your body will be able to blwo up right and maintain same level of bodyfat% with little water retention between skin and muscle,,most of the water will go INSIDE the muscle

i don't want it to be argued ,,just do it,,i give you here the way ,,you only need to comply

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Re: Genetics of a Pro!!!
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2011, 02:58:09 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2011, 03:04:33 PM »
Did Levrone ever win an Arnold Classic? I can't remember.

He did - '94 and '96.

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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2011, 03:06:56 PM »
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LOL I wish... always had the width but still chasing the fRANkenlook forehead ;D

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« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2011, 04:11:31 PM »


Guess who  :)

Mulatto genetics!    ;) ;D In this picture he is as skinny as I am, just taller.  His  father was white and of Italian ancestry and his mother was black and American.  He was one of the better, if not the best of the people to populate the Olympia stage in recent years.  I think his physique better from an aesthetic standpoint than Dorian's and vastly superior to Ronaldo Coleslaw.  For the most part he is articulate (his ghetto-isms in his videos aside) and many women find him to be quite handsome.  

Like all bodybuilders of today, he is, or rather was, all drugs.

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« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2011, 04:33:27 PM »
He was born white and turned brown?

Exactly ;D

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Re: Genetics of a Pro!!!
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2011, 04:39:35 PM »
Why is he going to give that poor dog a suplex?

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« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2011, 04:54:48 PM »
Why is he going to give that poor dog a suplex?

LOL!!!!!!

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« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2011, 05:07:44 PM »
its like some of you expected him to have triceps hanging off him from the moment he was born...
sometimes you can only see genetic potential after the person begins working out ... how his muscles repond to the train is the key genetic factor....
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« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2011, 05:39:17 PM »
QFT.



Epic beard and hair. A lean version of this man would dominate hollywood.

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Re: Genetics of a Pro!!!
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2011, 06:13:55 PM »
its like some of you expected him to have triceps hanging off him from the moment he was born...
sometimes you can only see genetic potential after the person begins working out ... how his muscles repond to the train is the key genetic factor....
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« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2011, 07:02:09 PM »
nothign to do with how genetic respond to training,,it is all to do with genetic respond to HORMONES,,training natural get you no where and will ever get you no where,,you will look fit thats where it ends with natural training,,

along the years you have seen many many examples,,i showed you here pictures of many bodybuild top and buttom ,,all the same idea behind ,,no hormones = no bodybuild,,

and just to make it completely clear,, ALOT OF HORMONES ON A REGULAR BASIS TO A POINT YOU WANNA THROW UP FROM HOW MANY HORMONES YOU BEEN TAKING FOR HOW LONG,, a bodybuild that is serious and go places take at the least AT THE LEAST one injection every single day of his life of oil ,,and few injections of gh,,this is before he hit the ifbb pro where it gets very very abusive ,,and i mean VERY

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« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2011, 07:25:27 PM »
drugs are just the finishing 95%

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« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2011, 08:12:04 PM »
Damn, Kev was skinny as hell ! I was bigger than that comin' out between my mother's legs ! Jesus christ almighty !

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« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2011, 08:17:07 PM »
Genetics play a significant role but so does consistency in training and diet, ive done cycles here and there but nothing "major", and by no means am i a pro but if i wanted to be i think i would have the tools to, so i think genetics to training play a more significant role


p.s i cant get it to post the pic straight up and down

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« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2011, 09:02:08 PM »
HERE ya go, Brent ....

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« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2011, 09:15:06 PM »
I think what's important to note here *but is being overlooked) is that ...

LeafyBug,  as seen in a few of his on-stage contest photos .... shows better conditioning and more bodybuilding potential than any IFBB Pro when they were a similar age with a similar amount of training experience.

He makes Kevin in the above shot look like a 'tall drink of water'.

And that includes the likes of Steve Reeves and most any other well known pro when he was Leaf's age.

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« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2011, 09:18:30 PM »
I think what's important to note here *but is being overlooked) is that ...

LeafyBug,  as seen in a few of his on-stage contest photos .... shows better conditioning and more bodybuilding potential than any IFBB Pro when they were a similar age with a similar amount of training experience.

He makes Kevin in the above shot look like a 'tall drink of water'.

And that includes the likes of Steve Reeves and most any other well known pro when he was Leaf's age.
UHhhh yea right.... Kevin at 23

Leaf at 23


I'd say he is light years ahead of me

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Re: Genetics of a Pro!!!
« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2011, 09:51:16 PM »
I think what's important to note here *but is being overlooked) is that ...

LeafyBug,  as seen in a few of his on-stage contest photos .... shows better conditioning and more bodybuilding potential than any IFBB Pro when they were a similar age with a similar amount of training experience.

He makes Kevin in the above shot look like a 'tall drink of water'.

And that includes the likes of Steve Reeves and most any other well known pro when he was Leaf's age.



You'll find plenty of kids with physiques that blow out the physiques of current or past pros matched for age and drug status. Good God, you should see some of the African-American teenagers playing high school football these days. I've never bought into the argument that some pros have used on here that they are just "genetically elite." Too many of these guys looked like twinks before steroids and shrunk down to basically nothing after stopping them. I'd only go as far as to say that they are the most genetically elite of the very few people who are willing to make the "finishing touches" i.e.  pump themselves full of large amounts of illegal drugs and hormones.   I'd liken it to being something like the world's best log cutter...the potential pool of participants is small and being "the best" isn't necessarily the same as being the best in a sport that draws from a large population and is lucrative like, say, soccer or football.  The true genetically elite athletes are not going into bodybuilding. They're playing football and other lucrative sports. Give some of these 240 lb NFL monsters running 4.6 40s a bodybuilder's regimen of constant steroids, GH, and insulin and commit them solely to muscle building and see how they'd look. I bet you'd find plenty of Ronnie Colemans.

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Re: Genetics of a Pro!!!
« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2011, 01:23:16 AM »
Genetics play a significant role but so does consistency in training and diet, ive done cycles here and there but nothing "major", and by no means am i a pro but if i wanted to be i think i would have the tools to, so i think genetics to training play a more significant role


p.s i cant get it to post the pic straight up and down

not with this midsection friend,,gut too big for this level of development,,LOTS of water ,,and you just can not look like that before turning pro ,,if you had 32 inch waist,,for your thickness id say 34 inch waist then yes maybe,,but this is too much gym rat kind of bloat,,too fast usage of too many products from china

i keep tell you fella 200lb 32 inch waist,,if you cant get there then you'll never be professional

200lb 32 inch waist!  that mean 190 lb 31 inch waist...210 33 inch waist...

very few hold these measurements,,the ones who do end up high in bodybuild IF they take enough legit hormones to thicken them up into high competitive level,,

moment you fellas understand that being 240 with 38 inch waist means absolutely nothing unless you are profesional and conditioned,,

notice what happen to all the fellas who are 250 lb 8% ....they go on stage 200..and look like shit! notice it they never place top 10 in any nationality,,, they are all insulina and gh ,,

it has to be build the right way ,,unless you have very good muscle shape and can pull illusion but even then you see phillip heath ,,shame for bodybuild,,never the less he had the muscle shape ,,even though grew it to a fake size as icall it ...he had the muscle shape since he started lean ,,

lean is the key

small waist is the key

wide delts are the key

and phenomenal respond to hormones

maybe if you took your hormones more serious ...you would be having better chance ,,but! according to what i see in picture you already take them very very seriously ,, just too much all over the place,,it all got to be build the right way ,,never compromise being lean to add bloofiness,,it got to be added as lean growth ,,if you cant you wil never see pro card,,and this come only if you have the right legit products ,,you wont grow lean with out hgh ,,never happen ,,you may maintain muscle whiel decreasing bodyfat on trenbolona...but you wil never grow lean as in scale weight/size with out gh

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Re: Genetics of a Pro!!!
« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2011, 01:37:00 AM »
again i will explain this AGAIN,,

i know you don't like dj from this boarding because he is coming off as hood language generation nothginess individual,,but he said one thing that you fellas need to remember ,,when you are getting lean ,,and when you are actually lean it is very easy to grow,,it is very easy to cheat and grow ,,and it is quite hard to get fat,,yes you get blown and gain some water weight but you don't get fat,,

this is important to understand ,,that genetic has nothing to do with success in bodybuildin and getting pro card,,it is how you gain the muscle mass that counts,,

this is why i recommend to everyone to first get lean and then grow lean ,,,this is very very important,,see the common thing to all professional and many top amateur,,,they all were skinny muscular before,,small skinny muscles....leannnnnn,,then blew up

this is very very important to understand friends,,you always seem to forget it ,,and you always seem to look for the dantas that if you really notice are not only bloofy but pure mess of fat and water bloat,,there is a diff between water bloat and fat,,

do not listen to the fat fellas that are on hormones and hold water bloat over fat,,they wil never accumulate to nothing ,,

you need to follow the lean fellas ,,yes the dj type of fellas that when take hormone blown daily to new dimensions,,now true the dj fella is in dream land about his natural status and about what he can achieve now day ,,but if you put him on hormones from the pic of him he keep showing at 150-160....he would blow out of the water into 180-190 with very low bodyfat and be considered serious contender in any competition in the light heavy weight decision


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I'm curious, what do you think I can achieve nowadays? I'm currently sitting at sub-8, and my arm is measuring in at 14.75 inches, and this is a relatively lean and conditioned arm measurement, as I am sitting at a legit sub-8. Do you think that I could hit 16 inches while staying at sub-8?

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Re: Genetics of a Pro!!!
« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2011, 01:44:16 AM »

I'm curious, what do you think I can achieve nowadays? I'm currently sitting at sub-8, and my arm is measuring in at 14.75 inches, and this is a relatively lean and conditioned arm measurement, as I am sitting at a legit sub-8. Do you think that I could hit 16 inches while staying at sub-8?

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Re: Genetics of a Pro!!!
« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2011, 01:47:56 AM »
Guess who  :)

I didn't recoginze him when I see him first.  He was skiny and in good condition already  ;D
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Re: Genetics of a Pro!!!
« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2011, 01:48:28 AM »

I'm curious, what do you think I can achieve nowadays? I'm currently sitting at sub-8, and my arm is measuring in at 14.75 inches, and this is a relatively lean and conditioned arm measurement, as I am sitting at a legit sub-8. Do you think that I could hit 16 inches while staying at sub-8?

no,,you need either to get to normal wieght of 180 ...or use hormones,, there is no natural bodybuild,,ofcourse you can hit 16 inches 8-9% but what are you achiving with that? every other guy thqat touch weight and 15% had 16.5 inch arm...so he will look bigger than you and not fat kind of thick ,,you look too fragile naturaly ,,none of the fellas who you think are naturals are truly naturals,,look at you and look at lay ,,he should be hang just for what he does to kids like you and like genetics = everything fella

there is no natural bodybuild,,not for a very long time,,

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« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2011, 01:57:54 AM »
no,,you need either to get to normal wieght of 180 ...or use hormones,, there is no natural bodybuild,,ofcourse you can hit 16 inches 8-9% but what are you achiving with that? every other guy thqat touch weight and 15% had 16.5 inch arm...so he will look bigger than you and not fat kind of thick ,,you look too fragile naturaly ,,none of the fellas who you think are naturals are truly naturals,,look at you and look at lay ,,he should be hang just for what he does to kids like you and like genetics = everything fella

there is no natural bodybuild,,not for a very long time,,

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Hey gh,

On a scale from 0 to 100%, how well developed is my build as a natural? 100% being the absolute max. I'm 190cm and weighed in at 90kg this morning. Also what would you say my bf% is?

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