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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2011, 12:48:36 PM »

Why the hell would u keep running, fuck i would run off the course straight into the woods or somthing and try to find any body of water to clean myself off.  A good placing in a race is not in any way worth the shame you will have to live with your whole life.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2011, 12:50:37 PM »
Why the hell would u keep running, fuck i would run off the course straight into the woods or somthing and try to find any body of water to clean myself off.  A good placing in a race is not in any way worth the shame you will have to live with your whole life.

I agree but those that don't bother with the restroom are some of the best and fastest long distance runners

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2011, 12:51:14 PM »
Were you underwater?


You do realize that- that time translates into 1hour 50min if she was a male, knock another 7 min off for the extra .85 and you have a time of just over 1 40. my half marathon time (although i suck cosidering i am over 200 lb with abs ;D at only 5,9) was 1.55.

Marathons are about 45 apart from male and female on average

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2011, 12:54:52 PM »
You do realize that- that time translates into 1hour 50min if she was a male, knock another 7 min off for the extra .85 and you have a time of just over 1 40. my half marathon time (although i suck cosidering i am over 200 lb with abs ;D at only 5,9) was 1.55.

Marathons are about 45 apart from male and female on average


pay HFF and Les no mind.

They keep busting my fat ass that my time is saying 2 hour 14 min for a half. I ran with my running app open on my phone. The distance was 13.85 miles in 2 hour 14 min...

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2011, 01:00:40 PM »
pay HFF and Les no mind.

They keep busting my fat ass that my time is saying 2 hour 14 min for a half. I ran with my running app open on my phone. The distance was 13.85 miles in 2 hour 14 min...
oh,lol

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2011, 01:05:27 PM »
You do realize that- that time translates into 1hour 50min if she was a male, knock another 7 min off for the extra .85 and you have a time of just over 1 40. my half marathon time (although i suck cosidering i am over 200 lb with abs ;D at only 5,9) was 1.55.

Marathons are about 45 apart from male and female on average


Suuuuuuuure.....using that logic and applying your math, she practically becomes Kenyan.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2011, 01:07:08 PM »
I ran two half marathons once upon a time.  The first one I was in good shape and ran 1:40.  The second I was in not so good shape and ran 1:51.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2011, 01:10:14 PM »
How do you combine running with heavy lifting? Or don't you ?

I run almost every day, but not fast, nor for a long distance (5-9 kilometers) and lift 4 times a week (2xchest/back/quads and 2xarms/shoulders/calves). When I prepared for the marathon, I ran a lot more, for much longer distances, but my lifts suffered and I lost a lot of muscle. Very difficult to combine, at last for me.

It works ok when running shorter, and the running is very effective for keeping BF low. But I do not get big in this way :-). My max bench is about 125 kg and I guess that's the limit for me when training like this.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2011, 01:13:04 PM »
My last 1/2 marathon was run uphill, in knee deep quicksand, wearing a 50 lb backpack and gas mask, in 100F weather and the distance was a little over 17 miles according to my forehead-mounted iPad.

I finished in 1:30.

And I don't even have legs.

Suck it Spinster.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2011, 01:20:06 PM »
great thread

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« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2011, 01:23:16 PM »
My last 1/2 marathon was run uphill, in knee deep quicksand, wearing a 50 lb backpack and gas mask, in 100F weather and the distance was a little over 17 miles according to my forehead-mounted iPad.

I finished in 1:30.

And I don't even have legs.

Suck it Spinster.

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only the tall dork can call me spinster

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2011, 01:24:42 PM »
pay HFF and Les no mind.

They keep busting my fat ass that my time is saying 2 hour 14 min for a half. I ran with my running app open on my phone. The distance was 13.85 miles in 2 hour 14 min...

I'm not sure that speed qualifies as running...

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2011, 01:25:42 PM »
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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2011, 01:42:33 PM »
only the tall dork can call me spinster

"Height-challenged" bigot post reported.

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« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2011, 03:49:50 PM »
"Height-challenged" bigot post reported.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2011, 04:59:22 PM »
This isn't for me, but a friend.
Buddy has a marathon in 2 weeks- he is concerned about whether or not he should carb load, and if so how?
Also he says  "I guess what I'm most interested in, is the idea of doing a short intense workout 24-48 prior to the race which will trick my body into preparing for stress, thus making my body hold more carbs. Has anyone tried this or something similar and if so what were the results?"

Carb load = yes, begin 72 hours out, wean off about 8-12 hours out to clear digestive system. Don't run on an empty stomach. Include an increase in water consumption to make sure he's fully hydrated, especially if he lives in warm weather. Increase vitamin/mineral/electrolyte consumption so you don't flush the system clean.

You don't give specifics on the size/weight of your buddy, but there is a saturation point with carb loading. Water has to be taken in with the carbs. I wouldn't recommend any intense physical activity within a 48 hour time window.  Keep the blood moving and work on some stretching. NEVER underestimate the need for good shoes/gear. If he hasn't used Gu in his training, DO NOT use it in the race until you know how your stomach will react. Gu will draw a lot of water into your stomach.

There are many different ideas on water/sport drink intake during a race (water only for me). Look online and calculate what's needed based on his weight. If he hasn't practised drinking water on the run, he will need to walk at the water stations or run the risk of semi-drowning himself. After the race, use sport drinks or diluted fruit juice to replenish, then use water, ibuprofen and stretching to start flushing out soreness. Schedule a walk for the following day to move the soreness out of the muscles.

PM if you need more info. I probably have 20 fulls and 40 halfs under my belt.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2011, 05:10:38 PM »
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« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2011, 05:11:39 PM »
Carb load = yes, begin 72 hours out, wean off about 8-12 hours out to clear digestive system. Don't run on an empty stomach. Include an increase in water consumption to make sure he's fully hydrated, especially if he lives in warm weather. Increase vitamin/mineral/electrolyte consumption so you don't flush the system clean.

You don't give specifics on the size/weight of your buddy, but there is a saturation point with carb loading. Water has to be taken in with the carbs. I wouldn't recommend any intense physical activity within a 48 hour time window.  Keep the blood moving and work on some stretching. NEVER underestimate the need for good shoes/gear. If he hasn't used Gu in his training, DO NOT use it in the race until you know how your stomach will react. Gu will draw a lot of water into your stomach.

There are many different ideas on water/sport drink intake during a race (water only for me). Look online and calculate what's needed based on his weight. If he hasn't practised drinking water on the run, he will need to walk at the water stations or run the risk of semi-drowning himself. After the race, use sport drinks or diluted fruit juice to replenish, then use water, ibuprofen and stretching to start flushing out soreness. Schedule a walk for the following day to move the soreness out of the muscles.

PM if you need more info. I probably have 20 fulls and 40 halfs under my belt.

chopped says some good stuff here. I tried gu a few times before the race. I only drink water when I have to during. Stay away from the gatoraid if you ask me. The first half I drank at mile 10, I had to stop at mile 12 in the porta potty and it didn't agree with me.

Again, I set my alarm for like 1am after a big run to stretch the muscles and walk around the house. I use a race type fanny pack. Keep ibuprofen, gu gel.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2011, 05:13:11 PM »
I hope he the shoes he's running are good ones. If he's using shoes he's ran 300 miles or more, he's gonna be a hurting unit. I have to get new running shoes every  three months. Best if he gets new ones to put at least 50 miles in them before the big run.

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« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2011, 05:16:19 PM »
I hope he the shoes he's running are good ones. If he's using shoes he's ran 300 miles or more, he's gonna be a hurting unit. I have to get new running shoes every  three months. Best if he gets new ones to put at least 50 miles in them before the big run.
do you go to a running shop?
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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2011, 05:21:00 PM »
do you go to a running shop?

I did. When I first started running, I got an expensive pair of nike shox. I kept getting horrific shin splints. Surprisingly, there is a runners store near me, so I went there. They watch me walk and run in place. Suggested asics duomax. Get the same ones every 3 months. Never an injury.

I did find out there is a runners store in Hartford called fleetfeet.

http://www.fleetfeetsports.com/

I've heard it's one of the best stores that caters to runners. They put you on a treadmill and monitor your strides, how you land on your feet, etc and make suggestions for running shoes. I'm gonna check it out soon when I get up to Hartford.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2011, 05:28:25 PM »
shox are a nightmare for running

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« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2011, 05:29:24 PM »
shox are a nightmare for running

they suck..I didn't know shit, not that I really do now.

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Re: With regard to running a marathon- input needed
« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2011, 07:16:46 AM »
I run almost every day, but not fast, nor for a long distance (5-9 kilometers) and lift 4 times a week (2xchest/back/quads and 2xarms/shoulders/calves). When I prepared for the marathon, I ran a lot more, for much longer distances, but my lifts suffered and I lost a lot of muscle. Very difficult to combine, at last for me.

It works ok when running shorter, and the running is very effective for keeping BF low. But I do not get big in this way :-). My max bench is about 125 kg and I guess that's the limit for me when training like this.

NN
You think it's the running itself or could you gain if you eat more cals or more protein ?