Author Topic: Tricking the Doctor (Read 6511 times)

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **on:** June 02, 2011, 05:02:27 PM »

Anyone ever tricked the doc into giving you some test ? i know a few guys who did it. They just went into the doctor after a long cycle and timed it to when they would have lowest test levels and they got tested and came back really scary low and the doc put them right on test therapy and now they get bad ass human grade and also face less penalty if they get caught ordering a couple bottles of gear since they have a script. Im thinking of tricking the doc after my next cycle my damn self.

Primemuscle · « **Reply #1 on:** June 02, 2011, 05:05:42 PM »

Quote from: bigjohn_bluesfan on June 02, 2011, 05:02:27 PM

Anyone ever tricked the doc into giving you some test ? i know a few guys who did it. They just went into the doctor after a long cycle and timed it to when they would have lowest test levels and they got tested and came back really scary low and the doc put them right on test therapy and now they get bad ass human grade and also face less penalty if they get caught ordering a couple bottles of gear since they have a script. Im thinking of tricking the doc after my next cycle my damn self.

Sounds like a plan. I am trying to figure out how to get my doctor to increase my dosage from 150 mg a week to 300 or so. Any ideas?

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #2 on:** June 02, 2011, 05:08:35 PM »

Quote from: Primemuscle on June 02, 2011, 05:05:42 PM

Sounds like a plan. I am trying to figure out how to get my doctor to increase my dosage from 150 mg a week to 300 or so. Any ideas?

well, you really should just be saving the vials and not taking them until you have enough for a cycle... if you already have a prescription for test, my advice would be to increase your own dosage by ordering test online. Also, you could tell the doc that the dose is too small and you need more but you hate to have to obtain it ilegally when you are paying his ass to treat you..

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #3 on:** June 02, 2011, 05:10:32 PM »

im going to try this after my cycle of testosterona and decarona durabolagna

Primemuscle · « **Reply #4 on:** June 02, 2011, 06:51:59 PM »

Quote from: bigjohn_bluesfan on June 02, 2011, 05:08:35 PM

well, you really should just be saving the vials and not taking them until you have enough for a cycle... if you already have a prescription for test, my advice would be to increase your own dosage by ordering test online. Also, you could tell the doc that the dose is too small and you need more but you hate to have to obtain it ilegally when you are paying his ass to treat you..

Since I have low testosterone, it doesn't make sense to stop doing TRT to save the testosterone for a cycle. I actually need the testosterone to keep my levels normal. Speaking of normal, the doctor bases his prescription/dosage on my lab work. Thusly, he is not going to increase my dose as long as my total testosterone in in the normal range.

Obviously, I would either need to find a willing doctor or buy the stuff off the Internet. At least I wouldn't need to buy as much as I would only be adding this to my prescription. One thing I would have to do is remember to cycle off in time for labs. Otherwise, my testosterone would read too high and the doctor would cut my dosage.

delta9mda · « **Reply #5 on:** June 03, 2011, 12:12:01 AM »

Quote from: Primemuscle on June 02, 2011, 06:51:59 PM

Since I have low testosterone, it doesn't make sense to stop doing TRT to save the testosterone for a cycle. I actually need the testosterone to keep my levels normal. Speaking of normal, the doctor bases his prescription/dosage on my lab work. Thusly, he is not going to increase my dose as long as my total testosterone in in the normal range.

Obviously, I would either need to find a willing doctor or buy the stuff off the Internet. At least I wouldn't need to buy as much as I would only be adding this to my prescription. One thing I would have to do is remember to cycle off in time for labs. Otherwise, my testosterone would read too high and the doctor would cut my dosage.

im playing the same game with my doc. right after blood work it done in jack it up to double what he said and then a month out i go back down to his 100mg per wk dose. so far i am normal.

its almost time to start some tren.

DK II · « **Reply #6 on:** June 03, 2011, 02:47:38 AM »

Quote from: bigjohn_bluesfan on June 02, 2011, 05:08:35 PM

well, you really should just be saving the vials and not taking them until you have enough for a cycle... if you already have a prescription for test, my advice would be to increase your own dosage by ordering test online. Also, you could tell the doc that the dose is too small and you need more but you hate to have to obtain it ilegally when you are paying his ass to treat you..

Well, if you just do not take it and your test levels will stay low, the doc is going to up the dose.

CalvinH · « **Reply #7 on:** June 03, 2011, 06:26:53 AM »

After being sick {I mean really sick,5 days in the hospital} I went to the doc while still recovering and was prescribed androgel.

DK II · « **Reply #8 on:** June 03, 2011, 07:17:55 AM »

Quote from: CalvinH on June 03, 2011, 06:26:53 AM

After being sick {I mean really sick,5 days in the hospital} I went to the doc while still recovering and was prescribed androgel.

androgel sucks.

delta9mda · « **Reply #9 on:** June 03, 2011, 07:29:37 AM »

Quote from: DK II on June 03, 2011, 07:17:55 AM

androgel sucks.

yes, you want the real shit. pin it yourself.

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #10 on:** June 03, 2011, 07:41:13 AM »

Quote from: DK II on June 03, 2011, 07:17:55 AM

androgel sucks.

Howard uses androgel, he sucks ~~cocks~~ big time

DK II · « **Reply #11 on:** June 03, 2011, 07:46:13 AM »

Quote from: Schmoe Buster on June 03, 2011, 07:41:13 AM

Howard uses androgel, he sucks ~~cocks~~ big time

Yes, and Howard thinks it is "cool".

That's how much it sucks.

CalvinH · « **Reply #12 on:** June 03, 2011, 07:56:59 AM »

Quote from: DK II on June 03, 2011, 07:17:55 AM

androgel sucks.

It's paid for by my insurance so why not

Primemuscle · « **Reply #13 on:** June 03, 2011, 12:27:10 PM »

Quote from: CalvinH on June 03, 2011, 07:56:59 AM

It's paid for by my insurance so why not

I used Androgel for the first six months I was on TRT. I like test cyp better. For one thing, although my insurance covers Androgel, the co-pay is a lot higher then with test cyp. I also do not believe Androgel was as effective, plus it made my tits more sensitive which probably meant it was upping my estrogen levels. One good thing about it is that it is easy to apply as opposed to sticking a horse needle (22 gauge) in my ass each week.

Since going on test cyp, I've added HCG to keep my one real testicle from shrinking up. I also take a really low dose of Arimidex every third day. The HCG shots are a snap since I use a 30 gauge syringe for that.

delta9mda · « **Reply #14 on:** June 03, 2011, 11:29:41 PM »

Quote from: CalvinH on June 03, 2011, 07:56:59 AM

It's paid for by my insurance so why not

my watson test is paid for by my insurance (i pay 10 bucks per 5ml vial)

delta9mda · « **Reply #15 on:** June 03, 2011, 11:30:38 PM »

Quote from: Primemuscle on June 03, 2011, 12:27:10 PM

I used Androgel for the first six months I was on TRT. I like test cyp better. For one thing, although my insurance covers Androgel, the co-pay is a lot higher then with test cyp. I also do not believe Androgel was as effective, plus it made my tits more sensitive which probably meant it was upping my estrogen levels. One good thing about it is that it is easy to apply as opposed to sticking a horse needle (22 gauge) in my ass each week.

Since going on test cyp, I've added HCG to keep my one real testicle from shrinking up. I also take a really low dose of Arimidex every third day. The HCG shots are a snap since I use a 30 gauge syringe for that.

man up and use a 23g instead. it aint no big deal.

Primemuscle · « **Reply #16 on:** June 04, 2011, 12:35:14 AM »

You do realize that a 23 gauge syringe is actually smaller than a 22 gauge. The fact is that a 23 gauge needle is not as affective with test cyp because the oil is fairly thick and thus hard to push through the finer syringe. Originally, the doctor recommended an 21 gauge needle. I was pinning my thigh and it was not fun. Of course if you are sticking fat as opposed to muscle the syringe goes in easier. I don't have much fat on my thighs or my ass for that matter.

tstmaniac · « **Reply #17 on:** June 04, 2011, 08:36:31 AM »

You can't go wrong with a 23 gauge pin...your not suppose to inject super fast anyways...I use 25 guage for my guads and delts and 23 guage for my glutes

gym**rat · « **Reply #18 on:** June 04, 2011, 10:21:10 AM »

It worked with my Urologist. I have a cyp prescription, 1/2 ml 2x a week. I have 6 full vials backstocked. It is Watson Lab brand. Easy to pull off. Best luck using a Urologist. When I get the script filled the pharmacy asks what kind of pins I want and Nice gig I got going.

Primemuscle · « **Reply #19 on:** June 04, 2011, 12:42:25 PM »

Quote from: tstmaniac on June 04, 2011, 08:36:31 AM

You can't go wrong with a 23 gauge pin...your not suppose to inject super fast anyways...I use 25 guage for my guads and delts and 23 guage for my glutes

I use an 18 gauge needle to fill the syringe. Then I switch it out to the smaller gauge to inject. Works well.

Game Time · « **Reply #20 on:** June 06, 2011, 11:31:20 AM »

The only problem about going thru a doctor is moving. If for some reason you have to switch doctors the new doctor will almost always require testing done under his supervision. AKA you will have to go off, feel like a bag of shit, go thru lots of bloodwork then get put back on lol. They all want to cover their ass.

This has happened to me 2x, the second time I said fuck it bailed and on the appt. I was tired of feeling like a lab rat.

tlc · « **Reply #21 on:** June 07, 2011, 07:20:29 AM »

Are your doctors blind to the hulking mass beneath your shirts and the bulging vascularity of your forearms as they draw some blood?

Game Time · « **Reply #22 on:** June 07, 2011, 12:10:42 PM »

Quote from: tlc on June 07, 2011, 07:20:29 AM

Are your doctors blind to the hulking mass beneath your shirts and the bulging vascularity of your forearms as they draw some blood?

No, the one's I have dealt with know something fishy is going on. That's why switching doctors is such a bitch

CalvinH · « **Reply #23 on:** June 08, 2011, 05:52:16 AM »

Quote from: delta9mda on June 03, 2011, 11:29:41 PM

my watson test is paid for by my insurance (i pay 10 bucks per 5ml vial)

I wasn't offered that option.it was androgel or Viagra

gym**rat · « **Reply #24 on:** June 08, 2011, 06:16:00 AM »

Quote from: CalvinH on June 08, 2011, 05:52:16 AM

I wasn't offered that option.it was androgel or Viagra

My doc pulled the same shit on me. I went back after @ 4 weeks and said I was still feeling like shit and it was wrecking my marriage and the gel was doing nothing. He did another blood test and test levels had not changed, (I never touched the gel for the 4 weeks). Just keep working the doc Calvin. The wrecking the marriage statement seems to work pretty good.