Natural bodybuilding goals, let's get real here

[DroppingPlates]

Take a look at this dude's pics and profile...6'0 208, whether he is natty or not...
This is where your "promise land" lays
http://www.modelmayhem.com/720848

No way he could be a nattie

[Firemuscle]

This is were you are completely WRONG, retard.

Steroids LET you keep muscles. When you're on gear, you can slack with the diet, slack with the training and so on... Why the fuck do you think movie actors and these Guidos take steroids?? Because they don't want to bother working out hard, 4 times a week, have the diet in check all time and lose the conditioning and muscle from the day that you stop??

Surely, THIS kind of steroid muscle will go away quickly when you stop and is only the "bloat", so to speak, but training on steroids let's you add a lot more freedom to training, diet and so on than training naturally.

And if you start to get fat, add some GH, Tren or ECA.

 I know that this is how it is when you're on gear.

 But from what I can see. When you start taking gear, you becoe a slave to it. If you quit using it cold turkey you will fuck yourself up and throw your hormone levels out of whack.

 I was talking bout the fact that if you start using gear, you basically become physically dependent on it. I do not want to be physically dependent on any substance.

 Am I wrong on this? What would happen to the average juicehead if he suddenly went off cold turkey? Nevermind, i'll just look at pics of Crig Titus when he went to prison for that answer.

[DK II]

I know that this is how it is when you're on gear.

 But from what I can see. When you start taking gear, you becoe a slave to it. If you quit using it cold turkey you will fuck yourself up and throw your hormone levels out of whack.

 I was talking bout the fact that if you start using gear, you basically become physically dependent on it. I do not want to be physically dependent on any substance.

 Am I wrong on this? What would happen to the average juicehead if he suddenly went off cold turkey? Nevermind, i'll just look at pics of Crig Titus when he went to prison for that answer.

I can see your point.

Answer is, if you go off cold turkey the worst that will happen is you look like a fucking natural.  

[dyslexic]

Can you imagine if everyone had to come clean about everything? We could just completely eliminate our justice/court systems and attorneys.


It's all about living a lie. Nobody really knows jack-shit (at least not in this world)

[Firemuscle]

I can see your point.

Answer is, if you go off cold turkey the worst that will happen is you look like a fucking natural.  

 Fro what I read about going of gear cold turkey. It sounds like you can also go limp, get shrunken nuts, have LOW natural test levels for a long time afterwards, feel like shit, have low energy, no sex drive, feel weak....

 I don't think you just return to normal when you go off. I think you are fucked up for months or years afterwards if you go off cold turkey. I don't want to put myself in that kind of balance.

[DK II]

Can you imagine if everyone had to come clean about everything? We could just completely eliminate our justice/court systems and attorneys.


It's all about living a lie. Nobody really knows jack-shit (at least not in this world)

Well, if you include ALL addictions, i would say there is not ONE person in the western world without any sort of addiction. Let it be alcohol, recs, sugar or food in general.

[DK II]

Fro what I read about going of gear cold turkey. It sounds like you can also go limp, get shrunken nuts, have LOW natural test levels for a long time afterwards, feel like shit, have low energy, no sex drive, feel weak....

 I don't think you just return to normal when you go off. I think you are fucked up for months or years afterwards if you go off cold turkey. I don't want to put myself in that kind of balance.

To each his own, people are different.

I wouldn't smoke weed, fuck ladyboys and live in a 3rd world country, and i definitely wouldn't want that ugly skinny-fat body of yours.

[Firemuscle]

To each his own, people are different.

I wouldn't smoke weed, fuck ladyboys and live in a 3rd world country, and i definitely wouldn't want that ugly skinny-fat body of yours.

 Why do you care so much about what your body looks like?

 Nowadays I just don't give a shit. Don't you ever have a moment of clarity when you realize that the aesthetics of your body are really NOT that important in the grand scheme of things? To me this lifting thing is just a hobby. When you bring it to obsessive levels it's time to take a step back and ask yourself why the fuck you're doing it.

 Smoke weed, fuck ladyboys and live in a third world country. Now THAT is living the good life brother.

[no one]

you are not natural so stfu dude - if you are you must have the best genetics known to man - we have been over this so many times why you are not natural , it defys logic now go pop a dart in your ass and inject some "natural" propinate 

LOL- TRUTH

[pillowtalk]

Fro what I read about going of gear cold turkey. It sounds like you can also go limp, get shrunken nuts, have LOW natural test levels for a long time afterwards, feel like shit, have low energy, no sex drive, feel weak....

 I don't think you just return to normal when you go off. I think you are fucked up for months or years afterwards if you go off cold turkey. I don't want to put myself in that kind of balance.

Like they say "avoid hang-overs, stay drunk" 

PT

[Firemuscle]

Like they say "avoid hang-overs, stay drunk" 

PT

 Sometimes I like to go on a long camping trip or backpacking journey. And I move around to different countries.

 I don't wanna worry about my next injection while i'm doing all that.

 I prefer freedom.

 The steroid using life sounds a lot like slavery to chemicals to me. No thank you.

 But I guess if ou are just setled down and never do anything adventurous then you don't need to worry about all that.

[TruthHurts]

That's how I felt like 8 years ago.

 Then my mindset changed, and I stopped wanting to look like a bodybuilder. Stopped obsessing over my body.

 Now i'm perfectly happy to just be lean and in shape. I'm perfectly happy to have a good swimmer's build.

 In my opinion. It's just not worth it to chase the drug muscles. And it's constant work and financial investment to maintain it. Gotta keep on buying that food and drugs to maintain the look. Fuck all that. Give me something that I can keep even if I go camping for a week or whatever.

You don't even look "in shape". You do not look like a guy that even trains in any physical capacity. Every swimmers look better than you, runners, cyclists too. The pictures you posed and Stark exposed are of a shitty physique; it's not ripped and it has no muscle.  That's the truth but you probably know this and are trolling.

That's why you chicken out of your own contest and got destroyed by Xerxes.

[Firemuscle]

You don't even look "in shape". You do not look like a guy that even trains in any physical capacity. Every swimmers look better than you, runners, cyclists too. The pictures you posed and Stark exposed are of a shitty physique; it's not ripped and it has no muscle.  That's the truth but you probably know this and are trolling.

That's why you chicken out of your own contest and got destroyed by Xerxes.

 Thanks for the advice Alex.

 I wished I looked as good as you bro  
 
 Last night I fucked a woman hard for 2 and a half hours. If I wasn't athletic I wouldn't be able to perform feats of endurance like that.

[DK II]

You don't even look "in shape". You do not look like a guy that even trains in any physical capacity. Every swimmers look better than you, runners, cyclists too. The pictures you posed and Stark exposed are of a shitty physique; it's not ripped and it has no muscle.  That's the truth but you probably know this and are trolling.

That's why you chicken out of your own contest and got destroyed by Xerxes.

spot on.

Sometimes I like to go on a long camping trip or backpacking journey. And I move around to different countries.

 I don't wanna worry about my next injection while i'm doing all that.

 I prefer freedom.

 The steroid using life sounds a lot like slavery to chemicals to me. No thank you.

 But I guess if ou are just setled down and never do anything adventurous then you don't need to worry about all that.

What the fuck did you think God invented long esters for??  

You have no problem taking your weed onto a camping trip i presume, you need paper, fire, weed to smoke that.

Much easier to make one injection the day before you leave.  

[Firemuscle]

spot on.


What the fuck did you think God invented long esters for??  

You have no problem taking your weed onto a camping trip i presume, you need paper, fire, weed to smoke that.

Much easier to make one injection the day before you leave.  

 I love to smoke weed. But as a matter of fact I havn't smoked weed now in over a month. See, I don't like to do the same thing all the time, switch it up.

 Long esther steroids stay in your system for like a week or 10 days right? That's not a very long time if you're in Western China with a backpack.

 Different stroke for different folks. I have absolutlely nothing against steroid use if people wanna do it. But it just seems like some serious shit to fuck with. It's a commitment because you gotta keep on doing it and doing it, and coming off sounds like it's a challenge to do.

 Smoking weed, the worst that can happen is you'll eat a large pizza and pass out in your clothes. And if I quit smoking weed there is zero withdrawal or side effects. Totally different level.
 

[nosleep]

This is so fucking true, 10000% spot on.


When you are natural you diet and diet, you search for improvements in the mirror every day, you think "ahhh, here i MIGHT have improved a little" and then you meet someone you haven't seen in a few weeks or months and the first thing they say is: "Do you still work out?"....  

And you want to cry, you want to scream "Yeah motherfucker i do, 5 days a week, diet, cardio, everything!!" but you know how they would just think that you are crazy because what they read in the magazines is that Christian Bale bullked up 50lbs of muscle in 12 weeks and had to cut down because he was to big, and that Brad Pitt build 30lbs of muscle for Troy in 6 weeks.

Then you start to realize, you have to get bigger, so you bulk and you feel GOOD!! Your T-Shirt gets small, people tell you "Hey what's up, you got bigger since i last saw you!!" and you bulk and bulk some more, and before you know it people tell you "Do you still work out, you have gotten fat man"...

Now go back to the first paragraph OR enter steroids and see your body transform into what you have been dreaming of for so many years in a matter of weeks.  

THIS HAPPENED TO ME. I got so sensitive to it...i went on roids, never went back. 1 shot of cyp in butt on sunday nights.

[che]

there is not ONE person in the western world without any sort of addiction. Let it be alcohol, recs, sugar or food in general.

I have no addictions

[YngiweRhoads]

I have no addictions

Same.

[cephissus]

I'm addicted to posting

[DK II]

I'm addicted to posting

We all are. 

[DK II]

I'm addicted to caffiene. And working this 9-5 job in this fast paced capitalist shithole has got me addicted to the internet as an escape from reality.

Same here, actually.

Although i have an intense love/hate relationship with internet and mobile phones. They are a necessary evil, and every minute i sit in front of the internet seems like wasted time to me (except watching porn) but when there's a PC with internet in reach, i can't stop surfing, ven if it's the most blatant bullshit i watch.

Everytime i am on vacation, or some trip or abroad and have no internet, i do not even miss it at all. When i come to think of the internet i rather feel happy i don't have a PC, no emails and shit. But then, when i return home, first thing i do is check my mails and getbig.  LOL

[Palpatine Q]

Waaaaaah ......I don't want those big muscles anyway     

[Reeves]

Waaaaaah ......I don't want those big muscles anyway     

If I had Groink's arms...

[PJim]

I'll start. (Yes I know this guy looks like a metrosexual cum guzzling fruitcake, but i'm just using this pic to prove a point) This is the kind of physique you can expect naturally.

 Any more mass and you'll get soft and bloofy.

 As a natural this is the kind of mass you can shoot for while still being cut.

 

I'm not being funny, but I looked better than that at 17 after 6 months of training.

[gh15]

I've honestly never wanted to be big.

 I just want hardness and cuts and vascularity.

 I wouldn't want to be over 200 pounds.

 Yes, it's true. There are guys in this world who DON'T want to be 250 pounds  Shocking huh?

until 1990 no one cared to be 250 lb ,,not to forget frank zane won mr o 185 lol at 5'9 ,,the 250lb idea came later in the end of the 80s into the 90s...it came with high dose of hgh and then later on insulina with higher mega dose of aas,,but in reaility 200lb 6-7% was big numbers back in the day for a 5'9 5'10...those were THE NUMBERS for bodybuilder,,200lb 6% is very big bodybuild,,only now day when the gut is huge and carry 40lb on it ...the cult has changed,,back in the day no one had guts thats why everyone was 40lb lighter which was = 200-210lb offseason for 5'9...

5'9 200lb 6% is very VERY big fella

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