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Re: Greg Plitt - i'll have some of what he's on please !
« Reply #125 on: October 08, 2011, 08:55:30 AM »
OK, thanks, DEVON.

I can't argue with your last post because I don't have access to their  most recent tax returns, but I do know that Greg does make a lot of money.

And further .... I do believe that guys such as Greg who win these NPC Physique titles will eventually surpass the incomes of their bodybuilding counterparts simply due to the fact that physique title builds are or will be more acceptable to the general public ..... and henceforth to the supplement industry which wants to expand their market and profit line.

It could have been possible that the NPC saw the handwriting on the wall and thereby initiated Men's Physique comps for this very reason.

It definitely won't happen overnight, but it's definitely gonna happen.

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« Reply #126 on: October 08, 2011, 09:00:32 AM »
no, they wont surpass it because there's so many more of them. Their total income probably already surpasses that of pro bbers, but the top individual pro bbers will most likely always make more money than the top fitness guys.

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« Reply #127 on: October 08, 2011, 09:06:06 AM »
AND ... I gotta add this!

Competitors such as GREG are supposedly too muscular to win Physique contests and too small to win bodybuilding events.

At present there appears to be no venue available for GREG or guys with similarly exceptional builds to get a Pro Card.

I think that may be an open void or an open  opportunity for the NPC/IFBB too consider as a future sanctioned event.

It would mean one more contest within a restricted time frame, but all these sanctioned events don't have to be held together over the same weekend.

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Re: Greg Plitt - i'll have some of what he's on please !
« Reply #128 on: October 08, 2011, 09:13:59 AM »
APPLY, I don't think "more or less" would make any difference at all simply due to the fact that 'competition' reduces the 'more' to a single overall winner who reaps the award regardless of how many competitors compete.

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Re: Greg Plitt - i'll have some of what he's on please !
« Reply #129 on: October 08, 2011, 09:44:10 AM »
AND ... I gotta add this!

Competitors such as GREG are supposedly too muscular to win Physique contests and too small to win bodybuilding events.

At present there appears to be no venue available for GREG or guys with similarly exceptional builds to get a Pro Card.

I think that may be an open void or an open  opportunity for the NPC/IFBB too consider as a future sanctioned event.

It would mean one more contest within a restricted time frame, but all these sanctioned events don't have to be held together over the same weekend.
and bbing probably started out as a physique show and turned into a freak show as decades grew and the "sport',more people inclined to look more like greg and as it progressed by the culture and substances used it pushed builds like these away,now 50 yrs later they created a new class,it brings more money to the npc due to the open bbing end of things slightly regressing for 'talent'.

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« Reply #130 on: October 08, 2011, 10:09:56 AM »
NJ. I personally believe that you are 100% accurate with your  "bodybuilding  started out as a physique show" statement ..... and I have stated so on numerous ocassions.

In that regards ... you are precisely correct.

And over all these years the concept of 'bodybuilder' has changed immensely due to the physical achievements  the relatively few have been able to accomplish.

So the 1960's definition of a bodybuilder has been changed to 'physique contender' (physique'er??) while today's current definition is nothing anyone back then could even imagine.

So I think we are in agreement ... but I fail to understand what you mean by "it brings more money to the npc due to the open bbing end of things slightly regressing for 'talent'."

A clarification would be appreciated.

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Re: Greg Plitt - i'll have some of what he's on please !
« Reply #132 on: October 08, 2011, 12:02:10 PM »
NJ. I personally believe that you are 100% accurate with your  "bodybuilding  started out as a physique show" statement ..... and I have stated so on numerous ocassions.

In that regards ... you are precisely correct.

And over all these years the concept of 'bodybuilder' has changed immensely due to the physical achievements  the relatively few have been able to accomplish.

So the 1960's definition of a bodybuilder has been changed to 'physique contender' (physique'er??) while today's current definition is nothing anyone back then could even imagine.

So I think we are in agreement ... but I fail to understand what you mean by "it brings more money to the npc due to the open bbing end of things slightly regressing for 'talent'."

A clarification would be appreciated.
i ran off there sorry on that statement ,,i guess what i meant betwwen physique and bikini,fitness,thats adds a lot more competitors and how much is an npc card now?that is a lot of money to stage shows,hire guest posers,the money goes somewhere ?it also makes local shows go on for hours on end through all the classes now.

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Re: Greg Plitt - i'll have some of what he's on please !
« Reply #133 on: October 08, 2011, 12:05:40 PM »
N0T IMPRESSIVE F0R A R0ID USER. 6 FEET 195. 0NE INCH TALLER THAN ME 0N DRUGS AND 0NLY HAS 10 LBS 0F LEAN MUSCLE MASS 0N ME IN PR0P0RTI0N T0 HEIGHT AND WEIGHT.
STFU, it's not so much how he weighs but how he looks. Flex was competing in the NPCs at 195 at 5'10...and he was winning Pro shows at 216-224...

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« Reply #134 on: October 08, 2011, 12:15:07 PM »
STFU, it's not so much how he weighs but how he looks. Flex was competing in the NPCs at 195 at 5'10...and he was winning Pro shows at 216-224...
and labrada,benfatto,demey,,guys who appeared lighter but carried crazy lean muscle on there respective frames.

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« Reply #135 on: October 08, 2011, 12:27:56 PM »
and labrada,benfatto,demey,,guys who appeared lighter but carried crazy lean muscle on there respective frames.
exactly, Milos, Charles Chairmonte...

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Re: Greg Plitt - i'll have some of what he's on please !
« Reply #136 on: October 08, 2011, 01:05:29 PM »
APPLY, I don't think "more or less" would make any difference at all simply due to the fact that 'competition' reduces the 'more' to a single overall winner who reaps the award regardless of how many competitors compete.

models don't really work like this, ck isn't gonna go hire plitt to model underwear because he wins a contest, sagi kaliv is not the physique champ of ifbb is he? It's a matter of supply and demand, there's many more guys walking around looking like fitness models than like pro bbers, so when a mag wants a fitness model they have more leverage, why hire plitt when there's 10 guys at your door that look like him and come cheaper

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« Reply #137 on: October 10, 2011, 06:04:39 AM »
OK, thanks, DEVON.

I can't argue with your last post because I don't have access to their  most recent tax returns, but I do know that Greg does make a lot of money.

And further .... I do believe that guys such as Greg who win these NPC Physique titles will eventually surpass the incomes of their bodybuilding counterparts simply due to the fact that physique title builds are or will be more acceptable to the general public ..... and henceforth to the supplement industry which wants to expand their market and profit line.

It could have been possible that the NPC saw the handwriting on the wall and thereby initiated Men's Physique comps for this very reason.

It definitely won't happen overnight, but it's definitely gonna happen.

I'm not taking up for pro bodybuilding at all but do you really think the day will come when a mens physique winner will have a greater supplement contract then Mr O?

There is also some misconception that fitness modeling payouts are comparable to high end fashion. This is akin to saying Ava Cowan commands that same rate as Gisele ( yes many fitness girls actually believe these numbers aren't that far off)

  Know what the covershot of Muscle & Fitness pays?  Take a guess.

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Re: Greg Plitt - i'll have some of what he's on please !
« Reply #138 on: October 10, 2011, 06:22:07 AM »
no, i don't mean his stack. i don't give a rats ass if he's 'natural' or not. i want some of whatever makes this #girl so mentally positive. he'd be a millionaire if he could bottle taht stuff.

i'm a glass half empty kinda guy.. his fucking glass is running over and about to cause another great flood  :D







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Re: Greg Plitt - i'll have some of what he's on please !
« Reply #139 on: October 10, 2011, 06:47:53 AM »
This fucking retard has no job, probably lives on moms and dads money, and bubbles crap like how great working out in the morning is.

Yeah, it's awesome if you do it like him and get home afterwards to take a nap.

Hardly!

He's an ex-Army Ranger and a West Point grad. In addition, he's a model and part-time actor.

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« Reply #140 on: October 10, 2011, 09:00:03 AM »
AND ... I gotta add this!

Competitors such as GREG are supposedly too muscular to win Physique contests and too small to win bodybuilding events.

At present there appears to be no venue available for GREG or guys with similarly exceptional builds to get a Pro Card.

I think that may be an open void or an open  opportunity for the NPC/IFBB too consider as a future sanctioned event.

It would mean one more contest within a restricted time frame, but all these sanctioned events don't have to be held together over the same weekend.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Have you seen the mens physique at the Arnold Amature this year?
Check it out. Those are some swole up jokers.

It's not Greg's size or lack of that is so unique; It's his remarkable shape and aesthetic appearance year round.

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« Reply #141 on: October 10, 2011, 11:48:48 AM »
DEVON, I gotta say that you discuss this stuff well and intelligently (ditto with APPLY), but you do leave room for argument and discussion.

I have no idea what a bodybuilder is paid for a cover shot now-a-days but my first guess would be nada or  ... nothing at all.

I guess I make the above assumption for the following reason.

At one time Mike Menzer was a good friend of mine and we had a four to five hour discussion about the world of bodybuilding and one of the topics we talked about was, "How much do the bodybuilders get paid for the use of their photos in the magazines?" (It could have have been for 'photos' and/or 'articles' which some of the guys never did actually write.)

At this time Mike's photos were used in just about every issue and one day he visited Joe's office and asker to be compensated for that fact.

Joe, being the business-man that he was, ended up not paying Mike but instead he offered  Mike a full page ad in the magazine in which Mike could sell a small training booklet that Mike, himself, would have to put together.

Mike ended up sort of agreeing and got to work putting a small training  booklet together and a few month's later he went to the post office to see if he had any mail only to find a note to report to the P.O. front desk.

He left that post office with three(?) bags full of mail with checks enclosed for his training booklet and that single day was the day that convinced him that bodybuilding was a profitable venture.

(Any GetBigger still got one of those?)

Sorry ... Just a little b it of history there.

So to the best of my knowledge ... bodybuilders were not paid for the use of their photos back then simply because the fact that those photos were published in a national magazine was 'pay' enough.

And as far as I know ... Mike was the first bodybuilder who benefited financially as a result of the free ad offered by Weider.

I could be wrong in the above statement  and it would be interesting to hear if anyone knows another version of the 'facts'.

It would also be interesting to know when Mr Weider started offering financial contracts and who received them.

I have heard that there were a few $40,000/year contracts but those discussions have been long forgotten so that figure may not be accurate.

But I do recall situations where Guest Posers made NPC contest apperances free of charge (excluding air-fare and acommodations) providing that the Weider logo was placed on the poster as a sponsor.

These Guest Posers were under contract with the Weider organization, but I have no idea if such Weidert contracts exist today or who's involved or what the pay is.

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Re: Greg Plitt - i'll have some of what he's on please !
« Reply #142 on: October 10, 2011, 12:02:36 PM »
NJ, I don't know if I fully understand ya but I have feeling that you may not be aware of the following.

It used to cost about $15,000 to $25,000 to promote a local NPC contest.

That figure would include the NPC sanction fee, the venue fee, the trophies, guest poser travel and acommodations which included meals, officials' fees and meals, advertising, and other related expenses.

And all those expenses were/are the sole responsibility of the promoter. The NPC does not contribute financially towards the promotion of any contest as far as I am aware. The contest promoter assumes all financial responsibility.

ANd ... Contests go on for hours but promoters outside of the national contests are not obligated to promote every event that the NPC sanctions ... (Unless this has changed recently).






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Re: Greg Plitt - i'll have some of what he's on please !
« Reply #143 on: October 10, 2011, 12:25:43 PM »
And, "YES!" ... I do think that there is a distinct possibility that the top Physique title holders will eventually receive comparable pay (or better than) to the top bodybuilder contenders.

I say this because of the general public's attitude towards competitive bodybuilding events and possibly their general acceptance of the  physique contenders.

And I do think that the national magazines will eventually agree and offer physique title holders lucrative contracts in an effort to appeal to more of the general public and increase their bottom line.

I say "more of the general public" and not "all" .... because there will always be haters and those individuals who display their hatred due to just plain jealousy.

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Re: Greg Plitt - i'll have some of what he's on please !
« Reply #144 on: October 10, 2011, 01:02:06 PM »
Sorry, i'm back!

"  .... so when a mag wants a fitness model they have more leverage, why hire plitt when there's 10 guys at your door that look like him and come cheaper

APPLY ... Another interesting and intelligent  statement  as shown above (Thanks!) .... the old Supply and Demand 'trick'.

It's difficult to argue this one with ya because you are possibly correct ....

but (and this is possibly my only reliable rebuttlel) ....

There may be ten (10) Greg-Look-a-Likes at that door but do they have the charisma or the desire that will get them inside that door!!?

Greg has the package (NOT that "package") full of desire and charisma that opens doors automatically and gets inside while others who have similar looks .... get turned away.

So there may be ten look-a-likes but the 'look' is not the only thing that makes one a success in this fitness/bodybuilding/physique business.

But I do see your way of thinking whenever I get the opportunity to spend time with the family in Los Angeles ...... and meet guys and gals who have the look ... but not the charisma nor the desire nor the willingness to spend most of their waking hour to be a success in Hollywood.

BTW .... the last time I saw a magazine stand within the past two months ... I saw Greg on the cover of three national magazines.

At this point I don't know if we agree or not, but it's always interesting to discuss this stuff and see how it eventually does work out.






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Re: Greg Plitt - i'll have some of what he's on please !
« Reply #145 on: April 23, 2012, 11:38:43 AM »

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Re: Greg Plitt - i'll have some of what he's on please !
« Reply #146 on: April 23, 2012, 01:42:36 PM »
Hardly!

He's an ex-Army Ranger and a West Point grad. In addition, he's a model and part-time actor.

HAHA yeah right so is every tom dick and harry gymrat!!!!!

For an ex Army Ranger and West Point grad he sure has aimed high by being another fitness "guru" moron. 

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« Reply #147 on: April 23, 2012, 01:45:47 PM »
He should write a book about his time as a Ranger.

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« Reply #148 on: April 23, 2012, 11:48:57 PM »
HE's walking proof that you don't need to be a bloated 250+ lb bodybuilder to make it in fitness industry.
All you need is a gimmick and some 6 pack abs ....like this dude.
He's making way more off silly photoshoots and promoting some weak supps than any G4P struggling bodybuilder

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« Reply #149 on: April 24, 2012, 05:07:04 AM »
HAHA yeah right so is every tom dick and harry gymrat!!!!!

For an ex Army Ranger and West Point grad he sure has aimed high by being another fitness "guru" moron. 

So, what are YOUR achievements?