Macho Man bad heart killed him

[OneMoreRep]

This is a quote from that same report that was posted:

According to the toxicology report, Savage tested positive for alcohol and hydrocodone (an opiate) during the time of his death ... but neither played a role in his death.

In other words, the specialists involved in the production of the toxicology report concluded that neither the alcohol or pain killers used actually played a role in his death.

By deductive reasoning, one can only assume that if the alcohol or drug use didn't lead to his death, that maybe the next probable player in his death might have been that of steroid use.

Of course there are other players that can also have had a hand in his death..

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[dyslexic]

Does anyone here have the "credentials" to say fate and pre-destiny had something to do with it? Everything in the man's life had "something" to do with his 'premature(? how would we know?) death...


Right?

[WillGrant]

This is a quote from that same report that was posted:

In other words, the specialists involved in the production of the toxicology report concluded that neither the alcohol or pain killers used actually played a role in his death.

By deductive reasoning, one can only assume that if the alcohol or drug use didn't lead to his death, that maybe the next probable player in his death might have been that of steroid use.

Of course there are other players that can also have had a hand in his death..

"1"

Yes neither played a role at the time of his death meaning the levels in his blood did not impair his judgement - he was driving at the time remember - but years upon years of pain killer abuse does cause problems - no one knows for sure what lead to his heart attack it will all be assumption - lifestyle in my eyes is the main culprit here eg: Wrestling at that level and all that comes with it so all forms of abuse and stress placed on the body - steroid abuse can not be pointed at as the only cause here.

[OneMoreRep]

Does anyone here have the "credentials" to say fate and pre-destiny had something to do with it? Everything in the man's life had "something" to do with his 'premature(? how would we know?) death...

Right?

Well, since you mentioned it, I know of a certain Jew that actively participates in this forum that might know a jeweler in Israel, who just so happens to have known a very distant cousin of Jesus, who might have some answers as to what fate had in line for the Macho Man.

Again, it's a stretch, but I will see if I can get in contact with that certain Jew.

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[oldtimer1]

We all have heard the stories of people that started smoking when they were 12 and lived to their late 80's.  Is smoking a risk to good health?  Hell, yes. Are all heroin users going to die?  Yes, but some will be because of old age.  The same with steroids.  Steroids increase blood pressure and low density lipids.   Both contribute to heart disease.  Also rapid increases in bodyweight is a strain to the heart whether it's muscle or fat. The heart isn't going to become efficient regarding a 30lb weight drug induced increase in 6 weeks. Since using steroids is such a small subculture there will never be any real studies. 

Users are in denial to justify their use of bodybuilding drugs.  Pro bodybuilding is such a small sub culture of a sport and how many pros have had heart problems?   Where there is smoke there is fire. 

[Largerthanlife]

This is a quote from that same report that was posted:

In other words, the specialists involved in the production of the toxicology report concluded that neither the alcohol or pain killers used actually played a role in his death.

By deductive reasoning, one can only assume that if the alcohol or drug use didn't lead to his death, that maybe the next probable player in his death might have been that of steroid use.

Of course there are other players that can also have had a hand in his death..

"1"

x2 but the ppl here are so fucking ignorant and don't want to accept that something they do could harm then in the long run, big deal.

[Largerthanlife]

We all have heard the stories of people that started smoking when they were 12 and lived to their late 80's.  Is smoking a risk to good health?  Hell, yes. Are all heroin users going to die?  Yes, but some will be because of old age.  The same with steroids.  Steroids increase blood pressure and low density lipids.   Both contribute to heart disease.  Also rapid increases in bodyweight is a strain to the heart whether it's muscle or fat. The heart isn't going to become efficient regarding a 30lb weight drug induced increase in 6 weeks. Since using steroids is such a small subculture there will never be any real studies. 

Users are in denial to justify their use of bodybuilding drugs.  Pro bodybuilding is such a small sub culture of a sport and how many pros have had heart problems?   Where there is smoke there is fire. 

BINGO good post

[LATS]

 i dont think anyone is in denial.. but savage had a partying lifestyle.. he indulged and did so for a long period of time.. could adding gear into the mix contribute.. sure.. butr lets not lose sight of the fact that he and many other wrestlers led a very hard life.. drinking, coke, painkillers, gear ect ect will catch up to ya eventually.. but to say it was gears fault is extremely gullible... many factors here..

[Coach is Back!]

Post up some cases that steroids were a DIRECT cause of death. Post up cases where HRT was a DIRECT cause of death. I'll be waiting. BTW, 30years on and off gear....no problems. Thanks.

[D_1000]

We all have heard the stories of people that started smoking when they were 12 and lived to their late 80's.  Is smoking a risk to good health?  Hell, yes. Are all heroin users going to die?  Yes, but some will be because of old age.  The same with steroids.  Steroids increase blood pressure and low density lipids.   Both contribute to heart disease.  Also rapid increases in bodyweight is a strain to the heart whether it's muscle or fat. The heart isn't going to become efficient regarding a 30lb weight drug induced increase in 6 weeks. Since using steroids is such a small subculture there will never be any real studies. 

Users are in denial to justify their use of bodybuilding drugs.  Pro bodybuilding is such a small sub culture of a sport and how many pros have had heart problems?   Where there is smoke there is fire. 

Very good post.

[sync pulse]

Post up some cases that steroids were a DIRECT cause of death. Post up cases where HRT was a DIRECT cause of death. I'll be waiting. BTW, 30years on and off gear....no problems. Thanks.

I wish there were clinics where you can get doctor supervised cycles.