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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2011, 08:57:48 PM »
super megadosing, 150 is not even a mega dose, why are you telling me to try it when you haven't, there's a guy here who has and he says it makes a difference, you are 0 for 100 as far as I'm concerned


Hengge UR, Stocks K, Wiehler H, Faulkner S, Esser S, Lorenz C, Jentzen W, Hengge D, Goos M, Dudley RE, Ringham G.
STD-Unit, Department of Dermatology and Venerology, University of Essen, Germany. ulrich.hengge@uni-duesseldorf.de
BACKGROUND: Despite highly active antiretroviral therapy (HAART), chronic involuntary weight loss still remains a serious problem in the care of HIV patients. Various alterations in energy metabolism and endocrine regulation have been found to cause loss of lean body mass (LBM) and body cell mass (BCM). Previous studies in HIV-positive men undergoing androgen replacement therapy or treatment with recombinant growth hormone (rGH) have shown partial restoration of LBM, but these treatments have largely been ineffective in eugonadal individuals. STUDY DESIGN: Double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled trial of 89 HIV-positive women and men with wasting assigned to the anabolic steroid oxymetholone [50 mg twice (BID) or three times daily (TID)] or placebo for 16 weeks followed by open-label treatment. STUDY ENDPOINTS: Body weight, bioimpedance measurements, quality of life parameters and appetite. RESULTS: Oxymetholone led to a significant weight gain of 3.0 +/- 0.5 and 3.5 +/- 0.7 kg in the TID and BID groups, respectively (P < 0.05 for each treatment versus placebo), whereas individuals in the placebo group gained an average of 1.0 +/- 0.7 kg. Body cell mass increased in the oxymetholone BID group (3.8 +/- 0.4 kg; P < 0.0001) and in the oxymetholone TID group (2.1 +/- 0.6 kg; P < 0.005), corresponding to 12.4 and 7.4% of baseline BCM, respectively. Significant improvements were noted in appetite and food intake, increased well-being and reduced weakness by self-examination. The most important adverse event was liver-associated toxicity. Overall, 35% of patients in the TID, 27% of patients in the BID oxymetholone group and no patients in the placebo group had a greater than five times baseline increase for alanine aminotransferase during the double-blind phase of the study. CONCLUSIONS: Oxymetholone can be considered an effective anabolic steroid in eugonadal male and female patients with AIDS-associated wasting. The BID (100 mg/day) regimen appeared to be equally effective as the TID (150 mg/day) regimen in terms of weight gain, LBM and BCM and was associated with less, but still significant liver toxicity.
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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2011, 09:25:18 PM »
how much did the aids patients weigh lol? If you're megadosing, you're walking around at 250+ I assume, 150 is not gonna do it at that weight. And stop calling me scarlet knight.

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2011, 09:39:45 PM »
started anadrol+superdrol together today, 20mg sdrol in the am, 100mg abombs in the pm, this should pump shit up
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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2011, 09:49:38 AM »
how much did the aids patients weigh lol? If you're megadosing, you're walking around at 250+ I assume, 150 is not gonna do it at that weight. And stop calling me scarlet knight.

I agree with you but I believe anadrol is one of those few drugs where the dose-response curve flattens out quickly,unlike test for example.
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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2011, 09:56:54 AM »
How can it be, it's not about dose, it's about CONCENTRATION OF THE PRODUCT IN YOUR BLOOD. You would need a high dose for a guy walking around 250 10% just to get any response, stop arguing and use your brain. You have a guy here who has stacked dbol with adrol telling you there is a synergistic effect, you're going off information in an article that pertains to aids patients. Come on use your brain. I'm not here trying to insult you, I'm trying to learn and having you in the way trying to be a guru in every thread makes things difficult. And you're telling me about adrol alone, when my original question was about stacking dbol and adrol.

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2011, 10:54:27 AM »
How can it be, it's not about dose, it's about CONCENTRATION OF THE PRODUCT IN YOUR BLOOD. You would need a high dose for a guy walking around 250 10% just to get any response, stop arguing and use your brain. You have a guy here who has stacked dbol with adrol telling you there is a synergistic effect, you're going off information in an article that pertains to aids patients. Come on use your brain. I'm not here trying to insult you, I'm trying to learn and having you in the way trying to be a guru in every thread makes things difficult. And you're telling me about adrol alone, when my original question was about stacking dbol and adrol.

the only way is to try it for yourself, and you haven't. And studies dont lie. Are you 250 10 percent bf? You dont need to stack it dude..
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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2011, 09:56:45 PM »
started anadrol+superdrol together today, 20mg sdrol in the am, 100mg abombs in the pm, this should pump shit up
Hows the combo working for you lesaucer?

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2011, 12:45:43 AM »
Hows the combo working for you lesaucer?
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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2011, 08:11:18 AM »
Hows the combo working for you lesaucer?

fucking crazy haha, started this along with 1250mg test and 600mg deca on monday, gained 4 lbs so far, muscles are full all the time, with slin added next week I will fcking blow up

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2011, 08:18:33 AM »
Wonder how 10mg of superdrol and 20mg of dbol would work together

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2011, 11:48:56 AM »
fucking crazy haha, started this along with 1250mg test and 600mg deca on monday, gained 4 lbs so far, muscles are full all the time, with slin added next week I will fcking blow up

Why fuck about eh?   ;D

Adding some deca to my own cocktail next week.

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2011, 02:25:41 PM »
starting to get some epic gyno, have to sacrifice some mass gains by using letro and prami tonight.. fucking tits hurts!  :'(

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2011, 04:44:42 PM »
starting to get some epic gyno, have to sacrifice some mass gains by using letro and prami tonight.. fucking tits hurts!  :'(

quit being a bitch and suck it up :) That means the stuff if working :D
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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2011, 05:41:45 PM »
starting to get some epic gyno, have to sacrifice some mass gains by using letro and prami tonight.. fucking tits hurts!  :'(

Why not try 40mgs a day of Nolva? Letro shuts you down bad..

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2011, 07:12:42 PM »
quit being a bitch and suck it up :) That means the stuff if working :D

fuck yes its working haha rhino labs is the shit! no joke.. and basically all my minor acne on back+shoulders is gone, now i know its the tren that does it, for me

im not using nolva because the bro scientists say its not good to use nolva with deca or tren and im on deca.. but you are right i will use adex instead and see if that solve the problem

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2011, 07:15:30 PM »
oh and flinstone, I started humulin-r yesterday, 70ius a day, levrone style baby!  this shit is pumping me up badly! lmao

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2011, 08:41:11 PM »
oh and flinstone, I started humulin-r yesterday, 70ius a day, levrone style baby!  this shit is pumping me up badly! lmao


hell yeah R is the shit cause two or 3 shots a day covers all your meals and it is very easy to control. When cutting I take a couple iu at breakfast and a couple iu in afternoon. Bulking I use 6-8iu with breakfast and 6 iu afternoon. I usually eat a meal within 30 minutes of the shot..then wait 2-3 hours before the next meal. I may give humalog a try again, but its a pain in the ass.
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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2011, 08:42:51 PM »
oh and flinstone, I started humulin-r yesterday, 70ius a day, levrone style baby!  this shit is pumping me up badly! lmao

you get a better pump from it than from humalog ?

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2011, 09:04:06 PM »
oh and flinstone, I started humulin-r yesterday, 70ius a day, levrone style baby!  this shit is pumping me up badly! lmao

from Dave Palumbo..

A: First off, whenever you inject exogenous insulin for performance-enhancing purposes (in an off-season growth scenario), you should always use Humulin-R (since it's fast acting but not too fast). What you're essentially attempting to do is to get a boost of this incredibly anabolic hormone 1-2 times per day max (6-10IU per dose) to help stimulate new growth. The way this occurs is that the large bolus of insulin maximally activates insulin receptors (on the surface of muscle cells) and it forces the large load of consumed macronutrients (protein/fats/carbs) into the muscle cells where they can then be utilized to build and repair muscle tissue. ......

You do NOT want to try to try mimic your own insulin production like a type 1 diabetic would (by taking small shots of a super fast-acting insulin such as Humalog) or else you'll find that you desensitize your insulin receptors (become insulin resistant) because you're constantly flooding the receptors with excess insulin (all throughout the day). When this happens the first response of the cells is to downregulate (reduce) the number of insulin receptors. Less receptors mean less growth. In my experience, I've found that twice (2x) daily dosing of Humulin-R will give you all the growth-promoting benefits without the potential concomitant insulin resistance
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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2011, 09:25:53 PM »
Damn seems exactly like whats happening to me !

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2011, 09:57:41 PM »
you get a better pump from it than from humalog ?

same pump, i only use it because my body stays in anabolic mode for longer than humalog

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2011, 05:23:01 PM »
my body lovvveeesss humulin-rrrr


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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #47 on: July 17, 2011, 10:09:09 PM »
my body lovvveeesss humulin-rrrr


looking gooood man!  8)

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2011, 09:42:45 AM »
my body lovvveeesss humulin-rrrr



Can you post up the protocol you use. Do you pin in the morning or pre workout?

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Re: Anadrol with Dbol
« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2011, 03:46:05 PM »
my body lovvveeesss humulin-rrrr



haha I told you!
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