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‘Beginning of the end for small fishermen’
Captains issue S.O.S., claiming new rules meant to save the fish are killing their way of life
By Jessica Fargen  |   Sunday, July 3, 2011  |  http://www.bostonherald.com  |  Local Coverage
Photo by Patrick Whittemore


With the height of the New England fishing season getting under way this week, small family fishermen say controversial new rules are destroying their livelihood — forcing them to sell their boats and instead search for work as laborers on larger vessels.

“It’s a death knell. It’s the beginning of the end for small fishermen,” said Rhode Island fisherman Joel Hovanesian, 54, who recently sold his boat.

Plymouth fisherman Stephen Welch, 50, a father of two, said: “We’re in a crisis right now.”

The new rules — put into place one year ago — place hard catch limits that restrict how much groundfish, such as cod and haddock, a fisherman can catch. Fishermen are given allotments of fish and can buy and sell those.

Under the old system, fishermen were allowed a certain number of days at sea.

Figures from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration show larger operations appear to have benefited. Annual revenue for boats larger than 75 feet increased approximately 33 percent in 2010 — up to $800,000, from $600,000 in 2009.

New Bedford Mayor Scott Lang, who, along with the city of Gloucester, sued NOAA over the new rules and recently lost, said he plans to ask the Commerce Department’s Inspector General to investigate.

“New Bedford and Gloucester are letting everyone know we will challenge anything that threatens the culture, history and traditions of our seacoast communities,” he said. “The average fisherman, the family fishermen, are being driven out.”

The fight over fishing rules has stretched all the way to the White House and crossed party lines.

Congressional members of both parties, including Republican U.S. Sen. Scott Brown and Democrat U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, are skeptical about the environmental ties of President Obama’s pick for Department of Commerce secretary, who oversees the nation’s fisheries. Environmental groups have backed the new rules.

“The industry is hurting deeply,” Brown told the Herald this week. “It’s putting people out of business,” he said of the new rules.

NOAA, which regulates fishermen, says the changes are necessary to protect the region’s fish stock. They say it’s too early to tell the impact of the new rules on small-boat fishermen and seacoast communities, but they are studying the issue.

NOAA spokeswoman. Maggie Mooney-Seus said overfishing would have killed the industry had the new rules not been in place.

“We are going to prevent the stocks from deteriorating,” Mooney-Seus said. “Every measure put in place over the last several years is helping to rebuild the stock. If you talk to fishermen they are saying, ‘I’m seeing more fish out there than I’ve ever seen before.’ ”

But locals say they’re struggling to survive.

“It’s very hard,” said Jim Keding, 42, as he stood on a dock in Plymouth Harbor on Friday.

Keding, a dad of two, recently sold his boat, the Zachary Nicholas, because his allotment of 15,000 pounds of groundfish wasn’t enough. In 2009, he brought in 73,000 pounds. “It’s putting us out of business,” said Keding.

Lifelong fisherman Rich Burgess, 57, is selling two of his four boats.

“They just can’t afford to go fishing,” said Burgess, as he cleaned up his boat, the Heidi & Heather, docked in Gloucester Harbor last week. Under the new rules last year, he caught 50 percent less groundfish — cutting his income in half.

Larry Ciulla, owner of the Gloucester Seafood Display Auction, where crews unload the day’s catch, has seen a downturn in the last year.

“There are a lot of boats that just don’t go fishing and that’s sad,” he said. “Each small boat is a business.”

Supporters of the new rules say they have brought stability and reduced wasteful discards of fish.

“What this all amounts to is more flexibility and predictability for fishermen, and the necessary ingredients for recovering groundfish stocks,” Johanna Thomas, director of Pacific and New England regions at the Environmental Defense Fund oceans program, said in an e-mail.

However, according to Tina Jackson, president of the American Alliance for Fishermen and their Communities: “This has been so devastating to communities up and down the East Coast. . . . It’s a bad program. It doesn’t work. It doesn’t save fish stock.”

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HOPE & CHANGE BITCHES! 

OBAMA KILLING OFF ONE INDUSTRY AT A TIME. 

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Sorry buddy fishing numbers world wide are in decline.  If you don't cap it soon we'll have no fish to enjoy at all, or it'll be so costly and unaffordable like lobster.

I feel no sympathy for these people and i applaud this 100%.
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Good than stfu about obama causing job losses. 

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Sorry buddy fishing numbers world wide are in decline.  If you don't cap it soon we'll have no fish to enjoy at all, or it'll be so costly and unaffordable like lobster.

I feel no sympathy for these people and i applaud this 100%.

So, just admit that you are perfectly fine with people being tossed from employment and into povety in pursuit of your eco-marxist agenda. 

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So, just admit that you are perfectly fine with people being tossed from employment and into povety in pursuit of your eco-marxist agenda. 

I'm more than fine with the loss of fishing jobs if it means that fish stocks are not raped and pillaged.  I can't express how happy i am there is now a fishing quota.  That news is good to me brother!
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I'm more than fine with the loss of fishing jobs if it means that fish stocks are not raped and pillaged.  I can't express how happy i am there is now a fishing quota.  That news is good to me brother!

Good - so you admit you want people out of work and on welfare, just like I have said from Day 1 the goal of the eco-communists favor.

At least you are honest about it, my only wish was that it was every member of your family losing thei jobs as opposed to these hard working people.   
 

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Good - so you admit you want people out of work and on welfare, just like I have said from Day 1 the goal of the eco-communists favor.

At least you are honest about it, my only wish was that it was every member of your family losing thei jobs as opposed to these hard working people.   
 

Uh no.  I want people to find work in jobs that don't destroy the environment and/or don't reduce the already depleted fish stocks. 

So happy about this right now.  Great news is here!  Now they need to reign in the drag netters, polluters and huge corporate run fishing boats. 
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Uh no.  I want people to find work in jobs that don't destroy the environment and/or don't reduce the already depleted fish stocks. 

So happy about this right now.  Great news is here!  Now they need to reign in the drag netters, polluters and huge corporate run fishing boats. 

Yeah, funny how almost every industry the eco-marxists like yourself try to shut down. 

You freaks want everyone in tents and under candle light. 
 

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Yeah, funny how almost every industry the eco-marxists like yourself try to shut down. 

You freaks want everyone in tents and under candle light. 
 


Oh the hyperbole! 
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Oh the hyperbole! 

No, the natural and logical result of the policies you enviro freaks advocate.   

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No, the natural and logical result of the policies you enviro freaks advocate.   

No, the over the top statement which is grounded not in reality, but in stupidity. 
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Re: ‘Beginning of the end for small fishermen’ due to new Obama Admn regs.
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"That planning process split the region into pro-fishing and no-fishing camps since it started in 2008, but it pales in comparison to the scope of a federal initiative that’s starting to take shape as a priority of the Obama administration.

The coastal and marine spatial planning process, launched by executive order in 2010, seeks to account for the full range of ocean uses, from wave energy and oil extraction to shipping and recreation. It’s supposed to span broad ecosystems instead of relying on the traditional sector-by-sector approach to regulating ocean activities."

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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2011, 09:09:10 AM »
VIDEO: Dem Mayor Pleads for Obama to Stop New Regulations
Town Hall ^ | 10-18-11 | Town Hall

Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:36:57 AM by joinedafterattack

Mayor Carolyn A. Kirk, Democrat Gloucester Massachusetts, pleads for President Obama to stop new regulations driving small businesses out of business. This Mayor "of the oldest fishing port in America" voted for Obama, went to his inauguration, and says she is now, "Losing Faith in Our Government." Kirk pleads for the President to get personally involved and stop the Commerce Department's overzealous enforcement of fishing regulations (something the Commerce Department Inspector General just slammed NOAA for) and the costly and burdensome regulations brought on by The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's (NOAA) new "Catch Shares" commercial fishing scheme. Kirk reiterates her invitation for President Obama to come to her city to see firsthand the problems NOAA has wrought on her city.


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Re: ‘Beginning of the end for small fishermen’ due to new Obama Admn regs.
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2011, 12:10:12 PM »
I grew up near Gloucester. Obama wants to turn every town into a 3rd world shithole so he can further destroy the country. U fucking libs need to lit on fire.  All he's done is make it easier for the massive ships to operate. Fuck him and the EPA.
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Re: ‘Beginning of the end for small fishermen’ due to new Obama Admn regs.
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2011, 08:15:07 AM »

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Carlos Rafael conducts business on the bridge of the F/V Athena. New Bedford fishing boat owner Carlos Rafael is on of the most influential person on the waterfront. Mr. Rafael who owns over 40 fishing boats is an icon on the waterfront.

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November 21, 2011


This fish story may lack the epic qualities of Ernest Hemingway's 1952 classic“The Old Man and the Sea,” but for New Bedford's Carlos Rafael, the outcome was about the same. In both cases, despite capturing and bringing home a huge fish, powerful circum­stances conspired to deprive the luckless fishermen of a potentially huge reward.

Boat owner Rafael, a big player in the local fishing industry, was elated when the crew of his 76-foot steel dragger Apollo told him they had unwittingly captured a giant bluefin tuna in their trawl gear while fishing offshore.

“They didn't catch that fish on the bottom,” he said. “They probably got it in the mid­water when they were setting out and it just got corralled in the net. That only happens once in a blue moon.”

Rafael, who in the last four years purchased 15 tuna permits for his groundfish boats to cover just such an eventuality, imme­diately called a bluefin tuna hot line maintained by fishery regu­lators to report the catch.

When the weather offshore deteriorated, the Apollo decided to seek shelter in Provincetown Harbor on Nov. 12. Rafael imme­diately set off in a truck to meet the boat.

“I wanted to sell the fish while it was fresh instead of letting it age on the boat,”he said.“It was a beautiful fish.”

It was also a lucrative one. Highly prized in Japan, a 754­pound specimen fetched a record price at a Tokyo auction in January this year, selling for nearly $396,000. These fish can grow to enormous size. The world record for a bluefin, which has stood since 1979, was set when a 1,496-pound specimen was caught off Nova Scotia.

However, when Rafael rolled down the dock in Provincetown there was an unexpected and unwelcome development. The authorities were waiting. Agents from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Office of Law Enforcement informed him they were confis­cating his fish — all 881 pounds of it.

Even though the catch had been declared and the boat had a tuna permit, the rules do not allow fishermen to catch bluefin tuna in a net.

“They said it had to be caught with rod and reel,” a frustrated Rafael said.“We didn't try to hide anything. We did everything by the book. Nobody ever told me we couldn't catch it with a net.”

In any case, after being towed for more than two hours in the net, the fish was already dead when the Apollo hauled back its gear, he said.

“What are we supposed to do?” he asked. “They said they were going to give me a warn­ing,” Rafael said. “I think I'm going to surrender all my tuna permits now. What good are they if I can't catch them?”

No charges have yet been filed in connection with the catch, but a written warning is anticipated, according to Chris­tine Patrick, a public affairs specialist with NOAA who said the fish has been forfeited and will be sold on consignment overseas. Proceeds from the sale of the fish will be held in an account pending final reso­lution of the case, NOAA said. No information on the value of the fish was available Friday.

“The matter is still under investigation,”said Monica Allen, deputy director with NOAA Fisheries public affairs. “If it's determined that there has been a violation, the money will go into the asset forfeiture fund.”

“I think I'm going to sur­render all my tuna permits now. What good are they if I can't catch them?”









Every obamabot deserves to run over by a steamroller for what these thugs are doing to this nation.   

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Re: ‘Beginning of the end for small fishermen’ due to new Obama Admn regs.
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2011, 02:53:16 PM »
‘Beginning of the end for small fishermen’
Captains issue S.O.S., claiming new rules meant to save the fish are killing their way of life
By Jessica Fargen  |   Sunday, July 3, 2011  |  http://www.bostonherald.com  |  Local Coverage
Photo by Patrick Whittemore


With the height of the New England fishing season getting under way this week, small family fishermen say controversial new rules are destroying their livelihood — forcing them to sell their boats and instead search for work as laborers on larger vessels.

“It’s a death knell. It’s the beginning of the end for small fishermen,” said Rhode Island fisherman Joel Hovanesian, 54, who recently sold his boat.

Plymouth fisherman Stephen Welch, 50, a father of two, said: “We’re in a crisis right now.”

The new rules — put into place one year ago — place hard catch limits that restrict how much groundfish, such as cod and haddock, a fisherman can catch. Fishermen are given allotments of fish and can buy and sell those.

Under the old system, fishermen were allowed a certain number of days at sea.

Figures from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration show larger operations appear to have benefited. Annual revenue for boats larger than 75 feet increased approximately 33 percent in 2010 — up to $800,000, from $600,000 in 2009.

New Bedford Mayor Scott Lang, who, along with the city of Gloucester, sued NOAA over the new rules and recently lost, said he plans to ask the Commerce Department’s Inspector General to investigate.

“New Bedford and Gloucester are letting everyone know we will challenge anything that threatens the culture, history and traditions of our seacoast communities,” he said. “The average fisherman, the family fishermen, are being driven out.”

The fight over fishing rules has stretched all the way to the White House and crossed party lines.

Congressional members of both parties, including Republican U.S. Sen. Scott Brown and Democrat U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, are skeptical about the environmental ties of President Obama’s pick for Department of Commerce secretary, who oversees the nation’s fisheries. Environmental groups have backed the new rules.

“The industry is hurting deeply,” Brown told the Herald this week. “It’s putting people out of business,” he said of the new rules.

NOAA, which regulates fishermen, says the changes are necessary to protect the region’s fish stock. They say it’s too early to tell the impact of the new rules on small-boat fishermen and seacoast communities, but they are studying the issue.

NOAA spokeswoman. Maggie Mooney-Seus said overfishing would have killed the industry had the new rules not been in place.

“We are going to prevent the stocks from deteriorating,” Mooney-Seus said. “Every measure put in place over the last several years is helping to rebuild the stock. If you talk to fishermen they are saying, ‘I’m seeing more fish out there than I’ve ever seen before.’ ”

But locals say they’re struggling to survive.

“It’s very hard,” said Jim Keding, 42, as he stood on a dock in Plymouth Harbor on Friday.

Keding, a dad of two, recently sold his boat, the Zachary Nicholas, because his allotment of 15,000 pounds of groundfish wasn’t enough. In 2009, he brought in 73,000 pounds. “It’s putting us out of business,” said Keding.

Lifelong fisherman Rich Burgess, 57, is selling two of his four boats.

“They just can’t afford to go fishing,” said Burgess, as he cleaned up his boat, the Heidi & Heather, docked in Gloucester Harbor last week. Under the new rules last year, he caught 50 percent less groundfish — cutting his income in half.

Larry Ciulla, owner of the Gloucester Seafood Display Auction, where crews unload the day’s catch, has seen a downturn in the last year.

“There are a lot of boats that just don’t go fishing and that’s sad,” he said. “Each small boat is a business.”

Supporters of the new rules say they have brought stability and reduced wasteful discards of fish.

“What this all amounts to is more flexibility and predictability for fishermen, and the necessary ingredients for recovering groundfish stocks,” Johanna Thomas, director of Pacific and New England regions at the Environmental Defense Fund oceans program, said in an e-mail.

However, according to Tina Jackson, president of the American Alliance for Fishermen and their Communities: “This has been so devastating to communities up and down the East Coast. . . . It’s a bad program. It doesn’t work. It doesn’t save fish stock.”

Article URL: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1349376

 


Well, maybe they can get a job at Long John Silvers ;D
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Re: ‘Beginning of the end for small fishermen’ due to new Obama Admn regs.
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2011, 03:06:54 PM »
so obama said take it away ::)

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Re: ‘Beginning of the end for small fishermen’ due to new Obama Admn regs.
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2011, 03:08:57 PM »
so obama said take it away ::)


Have you not been following this issue Mr. "I am informed cuz I watch MSNBC"   ? ? ? 

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Re: ‘Beginning of the end for small fishermen’ due to new Obama Admn regs.
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2011, 03:15:32 PM »
i read what you posted tell me more

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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2011, 03:18:28 PM »
VIDEO: Dem Mayor Pleads for Obama to Stop New Regulations
Town Hall ^ | 10-18-11 | Town Hall

Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:36:57 AM by joinedafterattack

Mayor Carolyn A. Kirk, Democrat Gloucester Massachusetts, pleads for President Obama to stop new regulations driving small businesses out of business. This Mayor "of the oldest fishing port in America" voted for Obama, went to his inauguration, and says she is now, "Losing Faith in Our Government." Kirk pleads for the President to get personally involved and stop the Commerce Department's overzealous enforcement of fishing regulations (something the Commerce Department Inspector General just slammed NOAA for) and the costly and burdensome regulations brought on by The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's (NOAA) new "Catch Shares" commercial fishing scheme. Kirk reiterates her invitation for President Obama to come to her city to see firsthand the problems NOAA has wrought on her city.


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Re: ‘Beginning of the end for small fishermen’ due to new Obama Admn regs.
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2011, 03:21:22 PM »
whats that have to do with him catching the tuna

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Re: ‘Beginning of the end for small fishermen’ due to new Obama Admn regs.
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2011, 03:22:17 PM »
whats that have to do with him catching the tuna

Again fool - its about eh NOAA officials and regulations obama put in to place.  They had to call it in and the obama admn goons swooped in and took his catch. 


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Re: ‘Beginning of the end for small fishermen’ due to new Obama Admn regs.
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2011, 03:24:23 PM »
you have to catch it with a reel that's the law is it not

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Re: ‘Beginning of the end for small fishermen’ due to new Obama Admn regs.
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2011, 03:26:33 PM »
lol.. 3333 is one dumb shit