Get the leg irons ready - Holder is going to jail for perjury.

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Fast and Furious: Holder To Be Hit With Subpoena
Flopping Aces ^ | 10-11-11 | Curt





Sharyl Attkisson, the same CBS reporter who was screamed at by the White House to stop reporting on the Fast and Furious gun scandal, is reporting today that Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) will be issuing a subpoena to DOJ head Eric Holder:


CBS News has learned a congressional subpoena directed to Attorney General Eric Holder could go out as early as Tuesday, ordering him to turn over documents to lawmakers about when he was aware of a controversial gun smuggling operation known as Fast and Furious.

CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson reports the the subpoena will come from the House Oversight Committee, led by Republican Darrell Issa. It will ask for communications among senior Justice Department officials related to Fast and Furious and “gunwalking.”

The subpoena will list those officials, says Attkisson – more than a dozen of them – by name.
This is the latest salvo after Holder did his best song and dance routine to weasel out of the spotlight:


I cannot sit idly by as a Majority Member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform suggests, as happened this week that law enforcement and government employees who devote their lives to protecting our citizens be considered "accessories to murder."

As I have said, the fact that even a single gun was not interdicted in this operation and found a way to Mexico is unacceptable. Equally unacceptable however, is the fact that too many in Congress are opposed to any discussion of fixing loopholes in the laws that facilitate the staggering flow of guns each year across our border to the South.

While failing to interdict weapons is an unacceptable tactic to stop the flow of illegal weapons, it seems clear that some in Congress are more interested in using this regrettable incident to score political points than in addressing the underlying problem.

Until we move beyond the current political divide where real solutions take a back seat to both political posturing and making headlines on cable news programs...nothing is going to change.

After which Issa laid out a detailed letter explaining why Holder OWNS the Fast and Furious gun scandal:


From the beginning of the congressional investigation into Operation Fast and Furious, the Department of Justice has offered a roving set of ever-changing explanations to justify its involvement in this reckless and deadly program. These defenses have been aimed at undermining the investigation. From the start, the Department insisted that no wrongdoing had occurred and asked Senator Grassley and me to defer our oversight responsibilities over its concerns about our purported interference with its ongoing criminal investigations. Additionally, the Department steadfastly insisted that gunwalking did not occur.
Once documentary and testimonial evidence strongly contradicted these claims, the Department attempted to limit the fallout from Fast and Furious to the Phoenix Field Division of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF). When that effort also proved unsuccessful, the Department next argued that Fast and Furious resided only within ATF itself, before eventually also assigning blame to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Arizona. All of these efforts were designed to circle the wagons around DOJ and its political appointees.

To that end, just last month, you claimed that Fast and Furious did not reach the upper levels of the Justice Department. Documents discovered through the course of the investigation, however, have proved each and every one of these claims advanced by the Department to be untrue. It appears your latest defense has reached a new low. Incredibly, in your letter from Friday you now claim that you were unaware of Fast and Furious because your staff failed to inform you of information contained in memos that were specifically addressed to you. At best, this indicates negligence and incompetence in your duties as Attorney General. At worst, it places your credibility into serious doubt.

And just over the weekend more news came out about those guns:



This arsenal uncovered by police in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, in April turned out to include weapons
from the ATF's ill-fated Fast and Furious operation. (Associated Press)
(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...



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SWAT is going to be called on him.

um.. his security detail will

um er...

I think michelle mentioned the flag during that whitey tape.

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BREAKING - FNC: Eric Holder presser in 30 minutes
FoxNews | October 11, 2011



Breaking on Fox ...



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GET THE LEG IRONS OUT!   

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BREAKING - FNC: Eric Holder presser in 30 minutes
FoxNews | October 11, 2011

Correct, 33.

His FBI just worked with DEA to defeat iran/mex assasination ring.

Holder gets to play the hero today. 

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BREAKING - FNC: Eric Holder subpoenad in 30 minutes
10/11/2011





"Gunwalking" subpoena for AG Holder imminent
CBS News - ‎7 minutes ago‎
CBS News has learned a congressional subpoena directed to Attorney General Eric Holder could go out as early as Tuesday, ordering him to turn over documents to lawmakers about when he was aware of a controversial gun smuggling operation known as Fast ...


Congressional Investigators to Subpoena Holder in Fast and Furious Probe
Fox News - William Lajeunesse - ‎2 hours ago‎
EXCLUSIVE: Congressional investigators probing the failed anti-gunrunning operation Fast and Furious are sending a new subpoena to Attorney General Eric Holder -- seeking communications from about a dozen top Justice Department ...

Congressional Investigators to Subpoena Holder in Fast and Furious ...‎

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Congressional investigators probing the failed anti-gunrunning operation Fast and Furious are sending a new subpoena to Attorney General Eric Holder.
Video: Obama Defends Holder on Fast and Furious
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In-Depth: Source: Congress to issue "Fast and Furious" subpoenas‎ CNN
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I think michelle mentioned the flag during that whitey tape.

Did Obama have his feet on the furniture when she said it?

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Issa Issues Subpoena to Holder in Fast and Furious Investigation (BREAKING)
fox ^ | 10/12/2011 | fn



Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, sent a subpoena Wednesday to Attorney General Eric Holder as part of his investigation into the gun trafficking operation known as "Fast and Furious." "Top Justice Department officials, including Attorney General Holder, know more about Operation Fast and Furious than they have publicly acknowledged," the California Republican said in a statement. "The documents this subpoena demands will provide answers to questions that Justice officials have tried to avoid since this investigation began eight months ago. It's time we know the whole truth." The subpoena seeks, among other things, all communications regarding the operation from 16 top Justice officials, including Holder, his chief of staff, Gary Grindler, and the head of the department's criminal division, Lanny Breuer, as well as correspondence on specific dates to and from the former head of the ATF's Phoenix field division, William Newell. It also asks for all documents and communications referring or relating to the murder of Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Agent Jaime Zapata, including any correspondence outlining the details of Zapata's mission at the time he was murdered. Congressional investigators are demanding information regarding the investigation into the death of U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.


(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...

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Did Obama have his feet on the furniture when she said it?

Seems to me that any politician who tries to sink Holder - when he is leading hte charge to stop these Iranian terrorists - is aiding and abetting the enemy.

I mean, holder is THE GUY who caught them.  He made it happen.  He's searching for the bad guy on the loose now.

And republicans want to focus on some old fialed law enforcement directive that is derived from Bush allowing the drug trade?


I just wish people would let holder save america from the iranians.  Keep america safe!

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Fast and Furious Subpoenas
10:19 am October 12, 2011, by Jamie Dupree



House Republicans today announced that they had sent subpoenas to Attorney General Eric Holder and the Justice Department to gain more information about Operation Fast and Furious, the controversial gun-walking program that allowed weapons to go to Mexican drug gangs.

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) says his Oversight Committee wants some very basic information, described below.

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The subpoena seeks the following:

In accordance with the attached schedule instructions, you, Eric H. Holder Jr., are required to produce all records in unredacted form described below:

1.All communications referring or relating to Operation Fast and Furious, the Jacob Chambers case, or any Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) firearms trafficking case based in Phoenix, Arizona, to or from the following individuals:
a. Eric Holder Jr., Attorney General;

b. David Ogden, Former Deputy Attorney General;

c. Gary Grindler, Office of the Attorney General and former Acting Deputy Attorney General;

d. James Cole, Deputy Attorney General;

e. Lanny Breuer, Assistant Attorney General;

f. Ronald Weich, Assistant Attorney General;

g. Kenneth Blanco, Deputy Assistant Attorney General;

h. Jason Weinstein, Deputy Assistant Attorney General;

i. John Keeney, Deputy Assistant Attorney General;

j. Bruce Swartz, Deputy Assistant Attorney General;

k. Matt Axelrod, Associate Deputy Attorney General;

l. Ed Siskel, former Associate Deputy Attorney General;

m. Brad Smith, Office of the Deputy Attorney General;

n. Kevin Carwile, Section Chief, Capital Case Unit, Criminal Division;

o. Joseph Cooley, Criminal Fraud Section, Criminal Division; and,

p. James Trusty, Acting Chief, Organized Crime and Gang Section.

2. All communications between and among Department of Justice (DOJ) employees and Executive Office of the President employees, including but not limited to Associate Communications Director Eric Schultz, referring or relating to Operation Fast and Furious or any other firearms trafficking cases.

3. All communications between DOJ employees and Executive Office of the President employees referring or relating to the President's March 22, 2011 interview with Jorge Ramos of Univision.

4. All documents and communications referring or relating to any instances prior to February 4, 2011 where the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) failed to interdict weapons that had been illegally purchased or transferred.

5. All documents and communications referring or relating to any instances prior to February 4, 2011 where ATF broke off surveillance of weapons and subsequently became aware that those weapons entered Mexico.

6. All documents and communications referring or relating to the murder of Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Agent Jaime Zapata, including but not limited to documents and communications regarding Zapata's mission when he was murdered, Form for Reporting Information That May Become Testimony (FD-302), photographs of the crime scene, and investigative reports prepared by the FBI.

7. All communications to or from William Newell, former Special Agent-in-Charge for ATF's Phoenix Field Division, between:

a. December 14, 2010 to January 25, 2011; and,

b. March 16, 2009 to March 19, 2009.

8. All Reports of Investigation (ROIs) related to Operation Fast and Furious or ATF Case Number 785115-10-0004.

9. All communications between and among Matt Axelrod, Kenneth Melson, and William Hoover referring or relating to ROIs identified pursuant to Paragraph 7.

10. All documents and communications between and among former U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke, Attorney General Eric Holder Jr., former Acting Deputy Attorney General Gary Grindler, Deputy Attorney General James Cole, Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer, and Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein referring or relating to Operation Fast and Furious or any OCDETF case originating in Arizona.

11. All communications sent or received between:

a. December 16, 2009 and December 18, 2009, and;

b. March 9, 2011 and March 14, 2011, to or from the following individuals: 

•Emory Hurley, Assistant U.S. Attorney, Office of the U.S. Attorney for the District of Arizona;
•Michael Morrissey, Assistant U.S. Attorney, Office of the U.S. Attorney for the District of Arizona;
•Patrick Cunningham, Chief, Criminal Division, Office of the U.S. Attorney for the District of Arizona;
•David Voth, Group Supervisor, ATF; and,
•Hope MacAllister, Special Agent, ATF.
12. All communications sent or received between December 15, 2010 and December 17, 2010 to or from the following individuals in the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Arizona:

a. Dennis Burke, former United States Attorney;

b. Emory Hurley, Assistant United States Attorney;

c. Michael Morrissey, Assistant United States Attorney; and,

d. Patrick Cunningham, Chief of the Criminal Division.

13. All communications sent or received between August 7, 2009 and March 19, 2011 between and among former Ambassador to Mexico Carlos Pascual; Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer; and, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Bruce Swartz.

14. All communications sent or received between August 7, 2009 and March 19, 2011 between and among former Ambassador to Mexico Carlos Pascual and any Department of Justice employee based in Mexico City referring or relating to firearms trafficking initiatives, Operation Fast and Furious or any firearms trafficking case based in Arizona, or any visits by Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer to Mexico.

15. Any FD-302 relating to targets, suspects, defendants, or their associates, bosses, or financiers in the Fast and Furious investigation, including but not limited to any FD-302s ATF Special Agent Hope MacAllister provided to ATF leadership during the calendar year 2011.

16. Any investigative reports prepared by the FBI or Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) referring or relating to targets, suspects, or defendants in the Fast and Furious case.

17. Any investigative reports prepared by the FBI or DEA relating to the individuals described to Committee staff at the October 5, 2011 briefing at Justice Department headquarters as Target Number 1 and Target Number 2.

18. All documents and communications in the possession, custody or control of the DEA referring or relating to Manuel Fabian Celis-Acosta.

19. All documents and communications between and among FBI employees in Arizona and the FBI Laboratory, including but not limited to employees in the Firearms/Toolmark Unit, referring or relating to the firearms recovered during the course of the investigation of Brian Terry's death.

20. All agendas, meeting notes, meeting minutes, and follow-up reports for the Attorney General's Advisory Committee of U.S. Attorneys between March 1, 2009 and July 31, 2011, referring or relating to Operation Fast and Furious.

21. All weekly reports and memoranda for the Attorney General, either directly or through the Deputy Attorney General, from any employee in the Criminal Division, ATF, DEA, FBI, or the National Drug Intelligence Center created between November 1, 2009 and September 30, 2011.

22. All surveillance tapes recorded by pole cameras inside the Lone Wolf Trading Co. store between 12:00 a.m. on October 3, 2010 and 12:00 a.m. on October 7, 2010.

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LMFAO.

Look for these people to be too busy with this Iran thing.
Look for the emails to get lost in a convenient backup.

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LMFAO.

Look for these people to be too busy with this Iran thing.
Look for the emails to get lost in a convenient backup.

Once Holder goes down - the damn will burst.  The Insider Blog who posts on this said the WH is in sheer panic over this. 


you can joke all you like about this since to you this is no biggie at all and you want obama for life, thats cool, but this scandal is going to topple obama and you know it.   

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right, cause we all know that Andy Sipowicz will have Holder writing a confession in 3 minutes, right?


Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit....

It'll be Pardon City.

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If you are so sure... why don't you place money on it?

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http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/12/gunwalker-is-only-the-tip-of-a-scandal-iceberg




Wow!     

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Issa subpoenas Justice Department, Holder for Fast and Furious documents
The Hill ^ | 10/12/11 | Jordy Yager and Daniel Strauss
Posted on October 12, 2011 10:47:50 PM EDT by neverdem

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) subpoenaed Attorney General Eric Holder on Wednesday for documents related to the Fast and Furious gun-tracking operation.

Issa, the chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, contends Holder knew more about the botched operation than he has told Congress. His subpoenas are directed to Holder and other senior officials at the Department of Justice (DOJ).

“Top Justice Department officials, including Attorney General Holder, know more about Operation Fast and Furious than they have publicly acknowledged,” Issa said in a statement announcing the subpoenas.

“The documents this subpoena demands will provide answers to questions that Justice officials have tried to avoid since this investigation began eight months ago. It’s time we know the whole truth.”

The 22-item subpoena seeks documents and communication records between Holder, Deputy Attorney General James Cole, Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer, the U.S. attorney’s office in Arizona, Executive Office of the President employees — including the White House’s associate communications director, Eric Schultz — and nearly 20 other high-ranking officials within the DOJ.

Rep. Elijah Cummings (Md.), the ranking Democrat on Issa’s committee, called the subpoena a “political stunt.”

“This subpoena is a deep-sea fishing expedition and a gross abuse of the committee’s authority,” Cummings said in a statement. “It demands tens of thousands of pages of highly sensitive law enforcement and national security materials that have never been requested before and are completely unrelated to Operation Fast and Furious.”

Under Operation Fast and Furious, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) oversaw the sale of thousands of firearms to known or suspected straw buyers for Mexican drug cartels in the hope of dismantling their gun trafficking routes. But the guns weren’t given proper supervision and most of them disappeared. Two of the guns sold under the operation were found at Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s murder scene in Arizona last year.

Recently released internal Justice Department memos show Holder was notified about Operation Fast and Furious as early as last year, but the DOJ and the White House have said Holder didn’t learn about the operation’s controversial gun “walking” tactics until earlier this year when he requested an internal inspector general (IG) investigation.

Issa and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) have said DOJ is “stonewalling” their efforts by not delivering the documents they’ve requested.

In a recent letter to Holder, Issa said the DOJ has used a “roving set of ever-changing explanations to justify its involvement in this reckless and deadly program.” Issa also said that the delaying tactics have been used “to circle the wagons around DOJ and its political appointees.”

The DOJ has said that it doesn’t want to jeopardize its prosecutions of straw buyers being tried with evidence gathered from Fast and Furious. As a result, the department has declined to turn over some documents but instead has offered them for in-camera review.

At a press conference on Tuesday announcing the DOJ’s disruption of an alleged assassination plot, Holder said that the agency had complied with Issa’s requests for documents in the past and planned to turn over any requested material in the future.

“We have sent thousands of pages of documents up to the Hill,” said Holder. “We’ll look at the subpoenas. I’m sure we will undoubtedly comply with them. But what I want the American people to understand is that in complying with those subpoenas and dealing with that inquiry, that will not detract us from the important business that we are here to do at the Justice Department, including matters like the one that we have announced today.”

The Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Mike Rogers (Mich.), said he didn’t think the timing of the alleged bomb-plot disruption was meant to detract attention from the Fast and Furious issue.

“The timing of this was designed around the case itself, I can clearly tell you that,” Rogers said Tuesday night on Fox News. “The arrest of the individual started the clock ticking for arraignment. And so, what you saw today was a result of our judicial clock, not necessarily a political clock.”

Holder and Republican lawmakers have repeatedly clashed in recent weeks. Several members have called for him to resign, while the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Lamar Smith (R-Texas), is pushing for an independent counsel to investigate the attorney general.

On Wednesday, Judicial Watch announced it had filed a lawsuit against DOJ and ATF, which oversaw the botched gun tracking operation — to obtain documents and communication records between the ATF’s former acting director, Kenneth Melson, and DOJ officials regarding Fast and Furious.

Melson was removed as head of the ATF in August.

“Given their dissembling, Justice and ATF are apparently in cover-up mode,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said in a statement. “We think it is important that an independent investigation of this scandal take place, and our lawsuits are a good way to do it.”

Issa has issued a number of subpoenas since taking over as chairman of Oversight after Republicans won back the House in 2010.

He issued his first, more narrow, subpoena to the DOJ for documents and communications dealing with the Fast and Furious case in March.

In February, Issa issued his first subpoena of documents relating to Bank of America’s VIP mortgage program through the Countrywide Financial Corp., in an attempt to determine whether members of Congress received preferential treatment from the bank in return for their legislative support.

In March, he issued a subpoena for documents pertaining to the then-general counsel of the Securities and Exchange Commission’s (SEC) relationship and financial dealings with Bernie Madoff.

In August, he subpoenaed the National Labor Relations Board for documents relating to its case against Boeing.

— This story was posted at 10:40 a.m. and updated at 4:10 p.m. and at 7:55 p.m.

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http://www.breitbart.tv/how-did-obama-know-about-fast-and-furious-before-holder




Busted!!!!

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http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Furio


Good video   

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If you are so sure... why don't you place money on it?

Bump

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Hillary's smoking gun--the next segment in State Department's role in Gunwalker
By Anthony Martin, Conservative Examiner



.."We have to recognize and accept that the demand for drugs from the United States drives them north, and the guns that are used by the drug cartels against the police and the military, 90 percent of them come from America."

The person who spoke the words quoted above was Hillary Clinton. The year was 2009 in an interview with Lara Logan of CBS News, just prior to a trip to Mexico City to meet with Mexican officials concerning gun and drug smuggling. The statement shows that not only was the State Department heavily involved in the Gunwalker scandal, as reported earlier today, but Secretary of State Hillary Clinton herself was at the forefront of pushing the false assertion that '90% of the guns used by Mexican drug cartels come from the United States.' It has only now been discovered the extent to which Clinton was involved.

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This is, in essence, Hillary's smoking gun, the bombshell proof that she was personally involved in what became known as the Project Gunwalker scandal--an illegal scheme that was concocted in order to claim that draconian new gun restrictions and gun bans were needed in the United States, given that 'most of the guns criminals use in Mexico come from America.'

As previously reported, the meme parroted by Barack Obama, Eric Holder, Janet Napolitano, and Hillary Clinton concerning the number of American guns used by criminals in Mexico was patently false, and they knew it was false. This is precisely why the Obama Administration concocted the scheme in the first place. If the facts do not prove that 90% of the guns come from the States, then make sure those numbers can be proved correct by walking the guns straight across the southern border directly into the hands of criminals.

Thus, the State Department, the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security, the ATF, the FBI, ICE, and a host of other federal agencies went to work to send thousands of guns across the border, deliberately placing them in the hands of the cartels.

And despite the Administration's claim that this was done only in order to trace the guns to criminals so that they could be found, arrested, and prosecuted, not a single arrest was made resulting from Gunwalker in spite of the fact that at the very least, 2500 guns were sent to Mexican criminals by the U.S. government.

One month after Hillary's trip to Mexico, Barack Obama visited with Mexican President Calderon, where he stated once again,

“This war is being waged with guns purchased not here, but in the United States. More than 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that line our shared border.”

This was a blatant, barefaced lie.

But where did this notoriously false assertion originate? Mike Vanderboegh has uncovered the source. It came from none other than rabid anti-gun Senators Dianne Feinstein and Dick Durbin, both Democrats, who stated in a hearing during March of 2009:

Durbin said: "According to ATF [the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives], more than 90 percent of the guns seized after raids or shootings in Mexico have been traced right here to the United States of America." Feinstein added: "It is unacceptable to have 90 percent of the guns that are picked up in Mexico used to shoot judges, police officers, mayors, kidnap innocent people and do terrible things come from the United States, and I think we must put a stop to that."

The problem, however, is that when both NPR and Fox News--one liberal, one conservative--put that 90% figure to a fact-check, it came up sorely lacking. The actual number was closer to 17% at the most, according to Fox. And even NPR, after a contentious interview with an Obama Administration official, totally debunked the 90% claim, although they could not determine the exact number. And as Pajamas media later discovered, the correct figure was a mere 8%.

This prompted Vanderboegh to state the following:

So, not 17 percent, says the NPR expert, but not 90 percent either. This is doubleplus ungood for the administration. The Secretary of State said 90 percent. The President said 90 percent. The Senators said 90 percent. NPR is not FOX. Even their supporters watch NPR, so does most of the media elite and nattering nabobs, as Spiro Agnew once called them. 90 percent has been discredited, at least in part. According to my sources, this did not go over well with Hillary. Not at all.

Documents and data made available from this time period in the scandal also show that the big question among Administration officials was how to push for massive new gun control and 'assault weapons' bans without paying a heavy political price for it...more evidence that from the start the entire scheme was not about catching criminals but restricting the Constitutional rights of American citizens.



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Continue reading on Examiner.com Hillary's smoking gun--the next segment in State Department's role in Gunwalker - National Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/hillary-s-smoking-gun-the-next-segment-state-department-s-role-gunwalker#ixzz1alN2ymxY

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Eric Holder’s ‘fast and furious’ demise
By: Michael Dorstewitz
Source: BIZPAC ReviewDate: October 14, 2011


http://www.bizpacreview.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.details&ArticleId=48741&returnTo=michael-dorstewitz



“Fast and furious” isn’t just the name of a flawed government gun-running scheme. It’s also turning out to be the speed of U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder’s fall from grace.

Pressure for Holder to resign has been mounting daily amid growing evidence that he knew details of the failed gun-running operation almost from its inception. Fast and Furious was a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives scheme that ultimately resulted in firearms being supplied to Mexican drug cartels. Those same guns later killed two U.S. agents and at least 200 Mexican citizens.

Holder testified under oath before Congress that he first knew of the operation at about the same time as the general public. When memos and emails surfaced suggesting that he knew of the details much earlier, the attorney general first stated he “misunderstood the question,” then later corrected himself to say he doesn’t read all his memos. If it hasn’t already done so, Congress is expected to issue a subpoena for Holder’s appearance soon.

Although Holder maintains his innocence, his detractors say he’s been lying about his knowledge and participation from the start. So which is it? Although we may never learn the truth with certainty, an examination of his character may tell us what is probable.

Holder’s mettle was first tested by the New Black Panther case, which left-wing lawyer-turned-publisher Bartle Bull called "the most blatant form of voter intimidation I've ever seen." It involved nightstick-toting Black Panther members harassing white voters at a poll during the 2008 presidential election. When winning the case became a mere formality, Holder dropped the prosecution. Later, a Justice Department lawyer testified that the matter was terminated because the suspects were black and their victims were white. Perhaps it’s time for our attorney general to review the last four words in the Pledge of Allegiance: “and justice for all.” He would also do well to research the writings of Martin Luther King Jr., who envisioned a colorblind society.

When the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now was caught red-handed engaging in voter registration fraud, Holder’s Justice Department chose to sit on the sidelines, leaving prosecution to individual states. When evidence of ACORN’s fraud became irrefutable, Congress prohibited ACORN or any group associated with it from receiving federal funding. Holder’s Justice Department later lifted the ban to allow the group to continue receiving funds for contractual obligations already made. That pretty much includes everything ACORN would have received before the ban. One can’t help but recall that the attorney general’s boss, Barack Obama, was once deeply associated with ACORN. That begs the question: “What influence did that association have on the decision to take it easy on ACORN?”

Commenting on the Fast and Furious case, U.S. Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz., said, “It seems like this is the Moe, Curly and Larry show. And we're looking for Larry.” It’d be too easy to say we’ve found our “Larry” in Eric Holder. Instead, I’ll refer to the attorney general’s own remarks. When speaking on race relations, he once accused us of being “a nation of cowards.”  I have to believe that he imagined himself looking in the mirror when he said those words.

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October 14, 2011 8:19 AM

"Grenade-walking" part of "Gunwalker" scandal

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/14/earlyshow/main20120395.shtml?tag=contentBody;cbsCarousel

(CBS News)  There's a new twist in the government's "gunwalking" scandal involving an even more dangerous weapon: grenades.


CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson, who has reported on this story from the beginning, said on "The Early Show" that the investigation into the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF)'s so-called "Fast and Furious" operation branches out to a case involving grenades.

Sources tell her a suspect was left to traffic and manufacture them for Mexican drug cartels.

Police say Jean Baptiste Kingery, a U.S. citizen, was a veritable grenade machine. He's accused of smuggling parts for as many as 2,000 grenades into Mexico for killer drug cartels -- sometimes under the direct watch of U.S. law enforcement.


For more on this investigation, visit CBS Investigates.

Law enforcement sources say Kingery could have been prosecuted in the U.S. twice for violating export control laws, but that, each time, prosecutors in Arizona refused to make a case.

Grenades are weapons-of-choice for the cartels. An attack on Aug. 25 in a Monterrey, Mexico casino killed 53 people.

Sources tell CBS News that, in January 2010, ATF had Kingery under surveillance after he bought about 50 grenade bodies and headed to Mexico. But they say prosecutors wouldn't agree to make a case. So, as ATF agents looked on, Kingery and the grenade parts crossed the border -- and simply disappeared.

Six months later, Kingery allegedly got caught leaving the U.S. for Mexico with 114 disassembled grenades in a tire. One ATF agent told investigators he literally begged prosecutors to keep Kingery in custody this time, fearing he was supplying narco-terrorists, but was again ordered to let Kingery go.

The prosecutors -- already the target of controversy for overseeing "Fast and Furious," wouldn't comment on the grenades case. U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke recently resigned and his assistant, Emory Hurley, has been transferred. Sources say Hurley is the one who let Kingery go, saying grenade parts are "novelty items" and the case "lacked jury appeal."

Attkisson added on "The Early Show" that, in August, Mexican authorities raided Kingery's stash house and factory, finding materials for 1,000 grenades. He was charged with trafficking and allegedly admitted not only to making grenades, but also to teaching cartels how to make them, as well as helping cartel members convert semi-automatic rifles to fully-automatic. As one source put it: There's no telling how much damage Kingery did in the year-and-a-half since he was first let go. The Justice Department inspector general is now investigating this, along with "Fast and Furious."



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THIS IS YOUR PRESIDENT AND AG YOU FOOLS! 

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In Holder Subpoena, Issa Also Probes White House Press Aide
By Jonathan Strong
Roll Call Staff
Oct. 14, 2011, 5 a.m.
 




 House Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) made headlines this week by issuing a subpoena for documents from Attorney General Eric Holder about a botched weapons investigation, but Holder is apparently not Issa’s only target.

A little-noticed provision of the subpoena targets the White House, specifically naming Eric Schultz, a communications aide who was hired in May to respond to media inquiries on oversight matters.

Issa issued the subpoena as part of his investigation into a program called Fast and Furious, which whistle-blowers have described as allowing assault weapons and military-grade sniper rifles to transfer into criminal networks.

The subpoena demands “all communications” to or from Holder and 15 other top Justice Department officials on Fast and Furious, as well as every weekly update memo to Holder on any topic over a nearly two-year period. Issa contends that Holder may have learned about the program much earlier than he has acknowledged, and the California Republican been conducting a blitz of media interviews making that point.

The subpoena also requires Holder to produce “all communications between and among Department of Justice (DOJ) employees and Executive Office of the President employees, including but not limited to Associate Communications Director Eric Schultz, referring or relating to Operation Fast and Furious or any other firearms trafficking cases.”

“We know there were communications that did go to the White House on Fast and Furious. We’ve been told that they were personal communications that just happened to occur. We wanted an official assurance on that,” Issa told Roll Call on Wednesday, jokingly referring to Schultz as “my friend.”

But a GOP source familiar with the committee’s investigation said there was more to the request.

“The question is whether the White House has been instructing the Justice Department on what [documents] to release,” the source said.

The source added that recent allegations by a CBS reporter that Schultz yelled at her over her coverage of Fast and Furious in part prompted Issa’s questions on the matter, but the source maintained that the inquiry is unrelated to Schultz’s communications with reporters.

“This investigation is focused on discussions and communications among officials and not their interactions with outside parties, including reporters,” the source said.

This source noted that “there’s nothing necessarily inappropriate about the White House playing some role” but added that the documents produced by the subpoena will provide a fuller picture of what interaction is taking place.

A lawyer close to the Obama administration said it would not be unusual for the Justice Department to keep the White House informed of how it is responding to Issa’s document demands or to give the White House a heads-up before documents involving White House personnel are sent to Congressional investigators. 

But Democrats familiar with the investigation scoffed at the idea that a member of the White House communications staff is telling the Justice Department how to respond to Issa’s document demands.

Other portions of the subpoena also appear to reach beyond Holder’s involvement in the program.

For instance, the subpoena demands that the Justice Department provide all photographs of the crime scene of the slaying of Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agent Jaime Zapata and “surveillance tapes recorded by pole cameras inside the Lone Wolf Trading Co. store between 12:00 a.m. on October 3, 2010 and 12:00 a.m. on October 7, 2010.” Both the store and Zapata’s slaying have been linked to the Fast and Furious operation.

Oversight and Government Reform ranking member Elijah Cummings assailed Issa’s document demands. “This subpoena is a deep-sea fishing expedition and a gross abuse of the committee’s authority,” the Maryland Democrat said. “It demands tens of thousands of pages of highly sensitive law enforcement and national security materials that have never been requested before and are completely unrelated to Operation Fast and Furious. Rather than legitimate fact-gathering, this looks more like a political stunt.”

JonathanStrong@cqollcall.com | @j_strong

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Fast and Furious Demonstrates ‘Ruling Class,’ Country Divide
Pajamas Media ^ | October 14, 2011 | AWR Hawkins



The good ol' boys feel immune to the mortal danger that Gunwalker caused.

Apart from CBS News, the mainstream media has essentially ignored “Fast and Furious.” Instead of reporting on the illegal sale and transport of more than 2,000 guns, the hundreds of deaths in Mexico that resulted, and the nearly sixty Fast and Furious weapons that have been recovered at crime scenes in the United States, they have simply continued business as usual: fulfilling their self-appointed role as defenders of the ruling class.


There is no other ready explanation for why a supposedly “free press” looks the other way when “the DHS, IRS, DEA, ATF, ICE, and the Obama Justice Department” are all named under oath as being tied to Fast and Furious in one way or another. The same media personalities that still get a sparkle in their eye when talking about Watergate staunchly refuse to report on what could and should be the biggest scandal in the last fifty years.

As I type, the talking heads on MSNBC are clearly more worried about Michele Bachmann’s promise to reinstate “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” should she win the presidency than they are with ascertaining who oversaw the sale of the weapons used to kill U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

Ultimately, the mainstream media ignores Fast and Furious for the same reasons they report the supposed racism of the Tea Party. They don’t want to do anything that might undermine the ruling class and usher in a changing of the guard.

For the record, members of the ruling class can be found in both parties. Those in the Republican Party are of the “establishment” stripe, while those in the Democratic Party are proud to count Barack and Michelle Obama, Eric Holder, the Kennedys, and Senator John Kerry among their numbers.

Angelo M. Codevilla alluded to this bipartisan nature of the ruling class:

America’s real divide is certainly not between the Republican and Democratic parties. Rather, on one hand, there is a class of people who dominate both parties as well as academe and the media.


It should come as no surprise that John Kerry is mute on Fast and Furious or that Chris Matthews has yet to mention it. Obama only talks of it in response to questioners, and even then all he does is defend other members of the ruling class from charges of being involved. In response to a post-press conference question on October 6 regarding Holder’s misleading statements to the congressional investigators, Obama said:

With respect to … Fast and Furious, I think I’ve been very clear that I have complete confidence in Attorney General Holder in how he handles his office. … He’s indicated that he was not aware of what was happening in Fast and Furious; certainly I was not. And I think both he and I would have been very unhappy if somebody had suggested that guns were allowed to pass through that could have been prevented by the United States of America.

Of course, 90% of what the president said in defense of Holder consisted of fluff or falsehoods — there’s tangible evidence that Holder knew about Fast and Furious at least as early as July 2010. Yet that doesn’t matter to Obama. What matters is defending the other members of the ruling class, of which Holder is one (for the time being).

Consider the words of Arizona Sheriff Paul Babeu of Pinal County. He is not a member of the ruling class, and looks upon Holder and the rest of those involved in Fast and Furious with rationality:


It is insanity that they [ATF/DOJ] could try and rationalize this and still withhold and try to cover up information that implicates them.

He went on to say that those who were involved should “absolutely” be labeled and charged as accomplices to the murders associated with the operation.

The members of the ruling class feel themselves sufficiently insulated from the physical dangers of Fast and Furious, and they are quick to provide alibis to spare themselves political danger as well. On the other hand, those charged with the duty of living in the real world and facing the threat of being shot with a gun that Attorney General Eric Holder, U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke, or the ATF’s William Newell knew about aren’t easily appeased with the excuses and contradictions that characterize the good ol’ boys club on this one.

Fast and Furious demonstrates a chasm between the ruling class and the people. And the quickest way to bridge that chasm is to follow Sheriff Babeu’s recommendation and start filing charges.



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i'm not sure i'm comfy with these bush-era tactics taht were employed, but i'm not about to question the judgment of top law enforcement.

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i'm not sure i'm comfy with these bush-era tactics taht were employed, but i'm not about to question the judgment of top law enforcement.

ITS NOT THE SAME TACTIC MORON!  WTF is wrong w you?