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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2011, 01:59:08 PM »
not sure but the "decline hammer" (as its labeled) in my gym is the same as the one dj is usin in that video.  best way to isolate the pecs. since i started using it ive got thick full pecs for the first time.

The one in the video looks just like the flat version too.  The decline and flat look almost identical.

Regardless, i'll give the decline another go. 

Does yours have the seatbelt?

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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2011, 02:27:35 PM »
decline... hammer hardly ever used it...maybe twice in my gym its a machine younger guys load with plates.. to show off...
take it from a chest guy its garbage
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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2011, 03:44:32 PM »
decline... hammer hardly ever used it...maybe twice in my gym its a machine younger guys load with plates.. to show off...
take it from a chest guy its garbage
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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2011, 04:04:13 PM »
I have never felt anything using a decline Hammer chest machine, seems its too much on the front delts then anything, only once did i get a good contraction on the pecs and that was using very low to moderate weight

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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2011, 04:06:24 PM »
The one in the video looks just like the flat version too.  The decline and flat look almost identical.

Regardless, i'll give the decline another go. 

Does yours have the seatbelt?

no seat belt

i put the seat low so the hands are up higher

but i used to have it high so the hands were lower


it kinda shifts the focus from lower to center chest.

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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2011, 04:37:22 PM »
yeah we need gh to talk about hand placement when doing hammer machines if it matters at all.. or range of motion at least, for instance when i do shoulder hammer presses i tend to get sore as hell in my upper lats. i know that the pressing movement will activate those muslces as well but i mean like sore as fuck like more than if i did an actual lat workout

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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2011, 04:39:34 PM »
not sure but the "decline hammer" (as its labeled) in my gym is the same as the one dj is usin in that video.  best way to isolate the pecs. since i started using it ive got thick full pecs for the first time.
you dont have  " thick full pecs'  you look like shit

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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2011, 07:30:58 PM »
ughhhh I can do more weight on the hammer than I can barbell

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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2011, 07:36:50 PM »
decline... hammer hardly ever used it...maybe twice in my gym its a machine younger guys load with plates.. to show off...
take it from a chest guy its garbage

Its not garbage but yeah for noobies that just load it with plates its a total waste of energy, however if u know how to feel your chest on it and use a full ROM its totally worth it.  for guys like u however u are more concerned with poundages and it seems like that works for you... for me personally i switch it up but you will rarely catch me on a normal barbell bench its either smith for incline or dumbbells if i really wanna move weight...

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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2011, 07:54:14 PM »
Its not garbage but yeah for noobies that just load it with plates its a total waste of energy, however if u know how to feel your chest on it and use a full ROM its totally worth it.  for guys like u however u are more concerned with poundages and it seems like that works for you... for me personally i switch it up but you will rarely catch me on a normal barbell bench its either smith for incline or dumbbells if i really wanna move weight...
Im a dumbell guy.... I benched today coincidentally and did free weight decline.....i havent benched in 3 months or so...
machine decline has never done anything for me.... barbell ecline i probably do twice a year....
guys like me who are concerned with poundages... wonder where yu got that from/...
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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2011, 07:57:24 PM »
Ask someone who has lifter weights.

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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2011, 08:00:01 PM »
Im a dumbell guy.... I benched today coincidentally and did free weight decline.....i havent benched in 3 months or so...
machine decline has never done anything for me.... barbell ecline i probably do twice a year....
guys like me who are concerned with poundages... wonder where yu got that from/...
strength is relative
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saw jon cena in my gym, benching 80 lbs dumbells....   dude is pretty big.
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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2011, 08:00:33 PM »
1st Place:  Incline Barbell
2nd Place: Incline Smith
3rd Place:  Incline Dumbell
4th Place:  Incline Fly's
Last Place: Incline Hammer



  

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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2011, 08:03:20 PM »
Im a dumbell guy.... I benched today coincidentally and did free weight decline.....i havent benched in 3 months or so...
machine decline has never done anything for me.... barbell ecline i probably do twice a year....
guys like me who are concerned with poundages... wonder where yu got that from/...
strength is relative
mes


i said that because i remember in one of your threads you mentioned working your way up to 200's on flat and 160's on incline, if that isnt being concerned with poundages you may be top 10 percent strongest in the world.

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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2011, 08:18:08 PM »

i said that because i remember in one of your threads you mentioned working your way up to 200's on flat and 160's on incline, if that isnt being concerned with poundages you may be top 10 percent strongest in the world.

no ... my gym goes up to 160's never even seen a 200lb dumbell
145 inclines... 160's flat which i do after inclines not that it matters... if person b max is 100's.. an he uses those for his final set me using 160's or 170's doesnt mean im more intense.. its all relative
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this thread has nothing to do with weight were talking about the effectiveness of different exercises
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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2011, 01:57:17 AM »
Ask someone who has lifter weights.

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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2011, 12:15:34 PM »
yeah we need gh to talk about hand placement when doing hammer machines if it matters at all.. or range of motion at least, for instance when i do shoulder hammer presses i tend to get sore as hell in my upper lats. i know that the pressing movement will activate those muslces as well but i mean like sore as fuck like more than if i did an actual lat workout
not lats...

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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2011, 12:26:51 PM »
you dont have  " thick full pecs'  you look like shit

Hahhaaaa.....let him have his fantasy that he looks like a bodybuilder

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Re: GH15: whats better: incline hammer or incline smith?
« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2011, 04:25:39 PM »
I usually do the hammer incline... and I hit it towards the end, after dumbbells.  I do a few heavy weight sets for about 8, then drop and hit a few sets of 15-20.  These last sets are done like Cutler would, stopping before full contraction.  You can really get a great burn in the upper pecs I find.


I usually do bar inclines also, but either first or second.. and usually without a smith.
I once hammered an incline bench when the bolt was loose.