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tbombz · « **Reply #75 on:** July 13, 2011, 12:54:40 PM »

Quote from: lvtolft on July 13, 2011, 12:52:30 PM

I think it is you that does not "get it".
By already stating you "know" there are only 2 possibilities, you are limiting yourself to another possible truth. What could it be? I don't know. But being limiting yourself to possibilities is the worst thing you can do when you want to find an answer.

either things have always been, or they have a beginning.

thats pretty simple, theres no other option.

and that implies either there is an infinite regression, or there was magic.

Swede! · « **Reply #76 on:** July 13, 2011, 12:55:38 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on July 13, 2011, 12:54:40 PM

either things have always been, or they have a beginning.

thats pretty simple, theres no other option.

and that implies either there is an infinite regression, or there was magic.

why? because it "has" to? how do you know?

tbombz · « **Reply #77 on:** July 13, 2011, 12:56:50 PM »

Quote from: Swede! on July 13, 2011, 12:55:38 PM

why? because it "has" to? how do you know?

what other option is there? that nothing ever existed at all?

Dr Dutch · « **Reply #78 on:** July 13, 2011, 12:57:43 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on July 13, 2011, 12:56:50 PM

what other option is there? that nothing ever existed at all?

You got it !

Swede! · « **Reply #79 on:** July 13, 2011, 12:58:49 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on July 13, 2011, 12:56:50 PM

what other option is there? that nothing ever existed at all?

coke was on your table one second, then in your nose the other

cant explain that

OTHstrong · « **Reply #80 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:00:20 PM »

Quote from: Swede! on July 13, 2011, 12:50:53 PM

I dont recall mentioning Im an athetist.I could however if I wanted to claim that an ant up in the sky created everything, but no one happen to have a mushroom trip about it and write it down though

Your argueing like a 6 year old, "I never told you my skin was purple either"...Bro I am certainly not in agreement with Tbombs most of the time, but you're always leaving the subject with a bruised ego resorting to emotional attack...where as Tbombs is sticking to the subject....Just an observation....Tbombs is kicking your ass, hope this helps.

tbombz · « **Reply #81 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:01:45 PM »

Quote from: Swede! on July 13, 2011, 12:58:49 PM

coke was on your table one second, then in your nose the other

cant explain that

one day, hopefully, maybe when your 20-30 years older, youll actually think about these things.

it seems my attempts to get you engaged in this discussion have been futile

Swede! · « **Reply #82 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:02:27 PM »

Quote from: Onetimehard on July 13, 2011, 01:00:20 PM

Your argueing like a 6 year old, "I never told you my skin was purple either"...Bro I am certainly not in agreement with Tbombs most of the time, but you're always leaving the subject with a bruised ego resorting to emotional attack...where as Tbombs is sticking to the subject....Just an observation....Tbombs is kicking your ass, hope this helps.

Owning me by saying

"you can not claim to be atheist but you have to say "i dont know" !"

When I havent said I would say anything besides that?
owning me by pretending that "god" is the answer to questions no one can answer? my "god" you're dumb lol.

and im "attacking" him since the argument wont go anywhere, I know where he stand (pretend world) and he knows where I stand (being Ok not knowing something no one knows)

and If you think I have a "bruised" ego or "emotional" you're even more stupid then I first though lol.

Swede! · « **Reply #83 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:03:18 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on July 13, 2011, 01:01:45 PM

one day, hopefully, maybe when your 20-30 years older, youll actually think about these things.

it seems my attempts to get you engaged in this discussion have been futile

No one Knows, and Im ok with not knowing..

Rami · « **Reply #84 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:05:57 PM »

everything is god if you want to, because you can define god to be anything, 7 billion definitions and counting,

let's say there is an intelligent self aware entity that have power to create large energy fluctuations and created this universe. To some it would be just that, and part of science. And to some that would be god, same thing in the end.

let's say the natural laws within quantum physics randomly created this universe, it would be science. everything is scientifically explainable but probably not all within reach of human understanding and concepts, and so some people chose to call that part of science god.

it's all science no matter what truth.

tbombz · « **Reply #85 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:07:48 PM »

Quote from: Rami on July 13, 2011, 01:05:57 PM

everything is god if you want to, because you can define god to be anything, 7 billion definitions and counting,

let's say there is an intelligent self aware entity that have power to create large energy fluctuations and created this universe. To some it would be just that, and part of science. And to some that would be god, same thing in the end.

let's say the natural laws within quantum physics randomly created this universe, it would be science. everything is scientifically explainable but probably not all within reach of human understanding and concepts, and so some people chose to call that part of science god.

it's all science no matter what truth.

no. in neither of those situations would science be able to explain the happenings.

science cant even explain the human experience.

OTHstrong · « **Reply #86 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:08:35 PM »

Quote from: Swede! on July 13, 2011, 01:02:27 PM

kicking my ass by saying god and god and god? lol

"you can not claim to be atheist but you have to say "i dont know" !"

What does that has to do with Anything if I havent claimed to be an athetist was my point. explain?
Telling me to do something I already know? What point is that? explain?

There are thousands of your post that strongly imply that who ever belives in God is dumb, clearly you don't,.....all of a sudden its "i don't know", well thats good to know you are making progress, but what's most important here is that you keep calling Tbombs bitch, fag, and reffer to him snorting coke,... what does that have to do with the debate at hand?

Swede! · « **Reply #87 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:10:10 PM »

Quote from: Onetimehard on July 13, 2011, 01:08:35 PM

There are thousands of your post that strongly imply that who ever belives in God is dumb, clearly you don't,.....all of a sudden its "i don't know", well thats good to know you are making progress, but what's most important here is that you keep calling Tbombs bitch, fag, and reffer to him snorting coke,... what does that have to do with the debate at hand?

Thats to provoke.

Im ok with people beliving in "god". If that makes them feel better about themself and become happy.
What Im not ok with is claiming you Know "god" created something you dont know.. you Think you do. If you say "I Think god created bla bla" then I have no problem what so ever. Unless its something thats actually Proven ofc.

OTHstrong · « **Reply #88 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:11:04 PM »

Quote from: Swede! on July 13, 2011, 01:10:10 PM

Thats to provoke.

Im ok with people beliving in "god". If that makes them feel better about themself and become happy.
What is not Ok is claiming you Know "god" created something you dont know..

fair enough

tbombz · « **Reply #89 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:12:07 PM »

Quote from: Swede! on July 13, 2011, 01:10:10 PM

Thats to provoke.

Im ok with people beliving in "god". If that makes them feel better about themself and become happy.
What Im not ok with is claiming you Know "god" created something you dont know.. you Think you do. If you say "I Think god created bla bla" then I have no problem what so ever. Unless its something thats actually Proven ofc.

but i never said i knew god created everything

what i know, what we know, is that science can never explain existence

and that god is the only logical explanation for it

lvtolft · « **Reply #90 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:13:15 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on July 13, 2011, 01:12:07 PM

but i never said i knew god created everything

what i know, what we know, is that science can never explain existence

and that god is the only logical explanation for it

You just contradicted yourself! Great job.

Swede! · « **Reply #91 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:13:24 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on July 13, 2011, 01:12:07 PM

but i never said i knew god created everything

what i know, what we know, is that science can never explain existence

and that god is the only logical explanation for it

Quote from: tbombz on July 13, 2011, 12:18:34 PM

what kind of an explanation is God? its the ONLY explanation.

....

And a question that No One Knows doesnt have a explanation.

Swede! · « **Reply #92 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:16:18 PM »

Quote from: Onetimehard on July 13, 2011, 01:11:04 PM

fair enough

First it wasn't fair now its fair

...can't explain that

tbombz · « **Reply #93 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:18:54 PM »

Quote from: Swede! on July 13, 2011, 01:13:24 PM

....

And a question that No One Knows doesnt have a explanation.

just cause nobody knows the explanation doesnt mean there isnt one. in fact, there is always an explanation for everything.

Quote from: lvtolft on July 13, 2011, 01:13:15 PM

You just contradicted yourself! Great job.

there is no condradiction there

OTHstrong · « **Reply #94 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:19:59 PM »

Quote from: Swede! on July 13, 2011, 01:16:18 PM

First it wasn't fair now its fair

...can't explain that

funny guy

fair.....doesn't mean I agree with you, just means your thinking is somewhat rational

Swede! · « **Reply #95 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:20:06 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on July 13, 2011, 01:18:54 PM

just cause nobody knows the explanation doesnt mean there isnt one. in fact, there is always an explanation for everything.

What does that has to do with anything ?

"I never claimed there wasn't a explanation"

americans loves to answer stuff that wasn't brought up

Rami · « **Reply #96 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:20:33 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on July 13, 2011, 01:07:48 PM

no. in neither of those situations would science be able to explain the happenings.

science cant even explain the human experience.

but if a god explained it to you, then it would be come science

tbombz · « **Reply #97 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:21:08 PM »

Quote from: Swede! on July 13, 2011, 01:20:06 PM

What does that has to do with anything ?

"I never claimed there wasn't a explanation"

its a direct reply to your reply.

if there is an explanation, which there always is, then the only logical one is God.

Swede! · « **Reply #98 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:21:55 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on July 13, 2011, 01:21:08 PM

its a direct reply to your reply.

if there is an explanation, which there always is, then the only logical one is God.

nooo, the logical explanation is that NO ONE KNOWS at this moment. We might eventually, we might not. We dont know that either.
Never said we will Never know. We dont know right now.. doesnt matter how much people pretend that they do...

tbombz · « **Reply #99 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:22:23 PM »

Quote from: Rami on July 13, 2011, 01:20:33 PM

but if a god explained it to you, then it would be come science

your assuming god could expain his own omnipotence to anyone else but himself. to god, yes of course its all 'science'. to us, somethings are simply magic.