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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #50 on: July 14, 2011, 01:49:20 PM »
Haha oh boy, so you like the the same hanging delt look like 99% of the gym rats? Nasser and Ruhl got their monster delts not from training or regular gear, as a GB vet you should know that.


I know my body and i know my delts grow super fast i used to work rear delts and they used to start to overpower my tris
I Dont want that look... plus i feel them plenty on back day
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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #51 on: July 14, 2011, 01:52:15 PM »
I actually did upper body like an hour ago.

warmed up with a 165lb barbell. Dont have a power rack so i clean it and press it above my head. 5-8 slow reps. Two sets of these.

Then i begin with 235lb and work my way down.

235x40
230x25
225x25

Finish my last set with some db flyes. 50lbx10

are those reps for overhead press
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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #52 on: July 14, 2011, 01:57:47 PM »
are those reps for overhead press


Like a military press?

Nope its similar to standing shoulder press. The body stays still and only the arms are moving the weight. Really basic lift.

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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #53 on: July 14, 2011, 01:59:57 PM »

I know my body and i know my delts grow super fast i used to work rear delts and they used to start to overpower my tris
I Dont want that look... plus i feel them plenty on back day

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man they say you one strong mofo but I have never seen your pics, do you got some recent ones to post? (im curious no homo)

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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #54 on: July 14, 2011, 02:00:06 PM »

I know my body and i know my delts grow super fast i used to work rear delts and they used to start to overpower my tris
I Dont want that look... plus i feel them plenty on back day

Wish I had that "problem"  ;D
Without a back double bicep picture I can't judge about your (dis)balance, but something I do notice in general is that some guys look wide in this pose, but it's actually their thick rear delts who overpower their back development. Roellie is the first person who comes to my mind with this issue.



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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #55 on: July 14, 2011, 02:04:28 PM »
leg extension 3x
single leg press2x
front squat2x
hack squat2x

kneeling leg curl2x
db rdl 2x
single leg curl1x

step ups from 18 inch box

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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #56 on: July 14, 2011, 02:17:21 PM »
Like a military press?

Nope its similar to standing shoulder press. The body stays still and only the arms are moving the weight. Really basic lift.

so its standing military presses.. thats a lot of weight for that exercise and reps...
impressive
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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #57 on: July 14, 2011, 02:17:50 PM »
Gonna put up yesterday's shoulder routine for laughs:

I get a 50 pound straight barbell. I do 4 sets of military presses and 4 sets where I switch up my grip and work the front delts. I go very slow and do a lot of pausing in the middle to get a nice burn. Then I go on the hammer strength for back delts, I put 25 pound weights on and do 4 sets on each arm, go very slowly and holding and squeeezing at the apex to get the most of the weight. lol I'm a 145 lb natural bodybuilder watch out kai and wolf I has u in my crosshairz

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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #58 on: July 14, 2011, 02:19:48 PM »
BACK:

Deadz
Corner T-bar rows
Seated rows
Wide pull downs
CG pulldowns
one arm row
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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #59 on: July 14, 2011, 02:22:10 PM »
Wish I had that "problem"  ;D
Without a back double bicep picture I can't judge about your (dis)balance, but something I do notice in general is that some guys look wide in this pose, but it's actually their thick rear delts who overpower their back development. Roellie is the first person who comes to my mind with this issue.



i didnt say it overpowers the back .. Im saying for me if worked directly too much it sticks out and starts t compete with my tri
see
king kamali
rhul
nasser to some point
and jay has that square look
i dont like that look

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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #60 on: July 14, 2011, 02:30:40 PM »
so its standing military presses.. thats a lot of weight for that exercise and reps...
impressive


No its similar to a standing shoulder press. The body is stiff only the arms move the weight. The bar does not go below my head.

This is a standing military press.


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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #61 on: July 14, 2011, 02:38:12 PM »
this

man they say you one strong mofo but I have never seen your pics, do you got some recent ones to post? (im curious no homo)
stop posting recent pics here years ago.... and wont be doing so again  old pics that are here already fine.. basically i look like this but now bigger slightly better hardness with rounder muscle





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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #62 on: July 14, 2011, 02:40:07 PM »
No its similar to a standing shoulder press. The body is stiff only the arms move the weight. The bar does not go below my head.

This is a standing military press.


ok so its from the top of your head to lockout
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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #63 on: July 14, 2011, 02:42:00 PM »
stop posting recent pics here years ago.... and wont be doing so again  old pics that are here already fine.. basically i look like this but now bigger slightly better hardness with rounder muscle







very good, stats in those pics?

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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #64 on: July 14, 2011, 02:42:34 PM »
i didnt say it overpowers the back .. Im saying for me if worked directly too much it sticks out and starts t compete with my tri
see
king kamali
rhul
nasser to some point
and jay has that square look
i dont like that look



I know, but if I were you I would not worry about the delt/tri balance but rather your bi/tri balance, however it's up to you which look to prefer.
I agree that those mentioned pro's have weird delts, Jay excluded. When I saw him in person I noticed that his delts hung a bit.

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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #65 on: July 14, 2011, 02:49:28 PM »
very good, stats in those pics?
those pics are4- 6 yrs  old
i was about 207 - 210 5ft 11
in person i look nothing like i weigh
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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #66 on: July 14, 2011, 02:53:14 PM »
I know, but if I were you I would not worry about the delt/tri balance but rather your bi/tri balance, however it's up to you which look to prefer.
I agree that those mentioned pro's have weird delts, Jay excluded. When I saw him in person I noticed that his delts hung a bit.
my bi tri balance is ok... im ok with it
like i said my delts grow super fast, im not a bber so technically Im not really fussed about rear delts its not ill be hitting a rear double back bicep pose at anytime in my life.. so why go for that square look
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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #67 on: July 14, 2011, 03:05:02 PM »
my bi tri balance is ok... im ok with it
like i said my delts grow super fast, im not a bber so technically Im not really fussed about rear delts its not ill be hitting a rear double back bicep pose at anytime in my life.. so why go for that square look

Man, you have way better genetics than the average getbigger (damn, that includes me). Square or round, you should do a contest, at least once.

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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #68 on: July 14, 2011, 03:11:20 PM »
Man, you have way better genetics than the average getbigger (damn, that includes me). Square or round, you should do a contest, at least once.
thanks man but i love to lift ... i have no desire to b on a stage in underwear flexing...
plus there is no way i could eat like a bber.... or diet.... and neither could i do the other stuff required...
im happy to be healthy being strong and to lift
thats it.
im glad you see what i was trying to say about that square delt look ... i think delts above everything can ruin a physique
if overdeveloped
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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #69 on: July 14, 2011, 03:24:19 PM »
Barbell rows

135 x 10
185 x 10
225 x 5

Rack pull

225 x 10
275 x 7
135 x 15 or so

(already did deadlifts this week, just messing around)

Pullups

About 7-8 at a time stopped when i got to 30 or so

Simultaneous DB curls

25 x 10
30 x 10
35 x 10
40 x 8
25 x 13

That's what I did yesterday anyway.

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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #70 on: July 14, 2011, 03:26:19 PM »
Barbell rows

135 x 10
185 x 10
225 x 5

Rack pull

225 x 10
275 x 7
135 x 15 or so

(already did deadlifts this week, just messing around)

Pullups

About 7-8 at a time stopped when i got to 30 or so

Simultaneous DB curls

25 x 10
30 x 10
35 x 10
40 x 8
25 x 13

That's what I did yesterday anyway.
do you get better gains doing bi curls together rather that alternate?
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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #71 on: July 14, 2011, 04:05:23 PM »
My arms are like 16 inches and haven't grown in years.

I do them together because I don't see the point of doing them separately.  Maybe you can lift a little more weight but that's just because you can concentrate on the arm better.  Does it translate into bigger arms? More soreness? Bigger pump?  I don't think so.  Plus it takes like half the time to do a set.

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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #72 on: July 14, 2011, 04:08:34 PM »
My arms are like 16 inches and haven't grown in years.

I do them together because I don't see the point of doing them separately.  Maybe you can lift a little more weight but that's just because you can concentrate on the arm better.  Does it translate into bigger arms? More soreness? Bigger pump?  I don't think so.  Plus it takes like half the time to do a set.

ok ill it try your way tomorrow for variety
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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #73 on: July 14, 2011, 04:14:49 PM »
Local hero, most people are too quick to jump right into their programs without really warming up correctly or long enough then complain of shoulder injuries. They do a couple of sets of internal/external (if that) and call it good with out realizing that fireing deep sub-scap is just as important to shoulder/labral health as well.

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Re: About to hit shoulders what are you training today?
« Reply #74 on: July 14, 2011, 04:20:46 PM »
You guys doing dozens of sets are nuts.

Back'n'bi's today was:

Pullups x 35 or so, I lost count
BB rows 4x10-6
EZ curls 3x12-6

Took 15 minutes, bugger wasting any more time than that.