Bachmann conversations with God- Recorded at her church 2006

[OzmO]

Obama, Romney, Rick Perry (and his national day of prayer), Ron Paul, etc., all of whom believe in God, have conversations with God, etc.  

You really think voters who were inclined to vote for Bachmann, will now vote for Obama?  (Assuming she makes it out of the primary.)

I don't think she will make it as the GOP Presidential Candidate, I don't think you believe she will either, maybe you do.  She's going to lose votes in the primary, that's where it will cost her.  I don't see moderate republicans voting for her.

Now, in a national election, repubs will vote for her regardless, Don't know about independents.  Likely not.   

 I'm not really following how voters make that change based on her religious convictions, when those convictions mirror everyone else.  And when the vast majority of the public identifies themselves as Christian.  Being a committed Christian is an asset, not a liability, in a national political race.  

And don't underestimate this woman.  I think she will be a serious player in the primaries/caucuses.

   
I agree about it being an asset, don't get me wrong, i just think not with a church Speech  like that. 

[Soul Crusher]

People are going to vote based on econommics mostly.

[tonymctones]

Oz, you know that she was probably asked to speak about this by the church right?

you say that the difference is one was asked and the other wasnt...

do you think she just said screw it im going to go up and grab a mic and start talking?

ORRRRR

do you think the church asked her to speak?

[Dos Equis]

I don't think she will make it as the GOP Presidential Candidate, I don't think you believe she will either, maybe you do.  She's going to lose votes in the primary, that's where it will cost her.  I don't see moderate republicans voting for her.

Now, in a national election, repubs will vote for her regardless, Don't know about independents.  Likely not.   
   
I agree about it being an asset, don't get me wrong, i just think not with a church Speech  like that. 

Which viable primary candidate doesn't share her views?  That's where I'm not following you.  Unless you're saying people will not vote in the primary at all because they watch a clip of Bachmann talking about her faith.  

I still think Romney is the front-runner, but I definitely believe Bachmann can win.  Just look at her poll numbers since announcing.  She has a great message.  She has a great background.  She's a good speaker.  She's tough and classy.  She's smart.  And most importantly, she has liberal hacks in a tizzy, so she must be doing something right.  

[Dos Equis]

People are going to vote based on econommics mostly.

Yep. 

[Dos Equis]

Oz, you know that she was probably asked to speak about this by the church right?

you say that the difference is one was asked and the other wasnt...

do you think she just said screw it im going to go up and grab a mic and start talking?

ORRRRR

do you think the church asked her to speak?

Good point.  Most guest speakers at churches are invited to speak. 

[OzmO]

Which viable primary candidate doesn't share her views?  That's where I'm not following you.  Unless you're saying people will not vote in the primary at all because they watch a clip of Bachmann talking about her faith.  

I still think Romney is the front-runner, but I definitely believe Bachmann can win.  Just look at her poll numbers since announcing.  She has a great message.  She has a great background.  She's a good speaker.  She's tough and classy.  She's smart.  And most importantly, she has liberal hacks in a tizzy, so she must be doing something right.  

Anyone still can win at this point.  What she did in that church won't be the sole reason of course, just a potential one to add to others.  

What viable candidate spoke in a church like her?

[OzmO]

Oz, you know that she was probably asked to speak about this by the church right?

you say that the difference is one was asked and the other wasnt...

do you think she just said screw it im going to go up and grab a mic and start talking?

ORRRRR

do you think the church asked her to speak?

Then did all those candidates do as she did?

[tonymctones]

Then did all those candidates do as she did?

what did she do oz, admit her belief...

a belief that they all hold?

[OzmO]

People are going to vote based on econommics mostly.

I agree, they will vote against OB

[OzmO]

what did she do oz, admit her belief...

a belief that they all hold?

For me there is a difference from proffessing it in a church the way she did versus the way it's used in a campaign. 

[tonymctones]

For me there is a difference from proffessing it in a church the way she did versus the way it's used in a campaign. 

LOL so somehow to you the idea that the other guy holds the same belief is ok, the fact that they voice their belief is ok

its just the venue in which they do it that is somewhat distasteful to you?

[Dos Equis]

Anyone still can win at this point.  What she did in that church won't be the sole reason of course, just a potential one to add to others.  

What viable candidate spoke in a church like her?

I don't know which ones spoke in a church, but I do know they all believe the same thing she does, and have publicly said many of the same things. 

What I'm trying to get at is which primary candidate you think she will lose votes to, when they all share the same views? 

[OzmO]

LOL so somehow to you the idea that the other guy holds the same belief is ok, the fact that they voice their belief is ok

its just the venue in which they do it that is somewhat distasteful to you?

Yeah, the way,the venue and the intention.  Not only distasteful, but borderline zealotry.  iMO.

[OzmO]

I don't know which ones spoke in a church, but I do know they all believe the same thing she does, and have publicly said many of the same things. 

What I'm trying to get at is which primary candidate you think she will lose votes to, when they all share the same views? 

She won't lose because of what she did in church, but she will lose votes because of it and in addition to other things that will come up.

[Dos Equis]

She won't lose because of what she did in church, but she will lose votes because of it and in addition to other things that will come up.

Lose votes to who? 

[OzmO]

Lose votes to who? 

Other repubs running for president    Who else?

[tonymctones]

Yeah, the way,the venue and the intention.  Not only distasteful, but borderline zealotry.  iMO.

not that i care b/c like i said earlier she isnt a viable candidate anyway.

but what was her intention? and what about the way did you find distasteful?

[Dos Equis]

Other repubs running for president    Who else?

Ozmo that's the point I'm trying to make.  You're saying she will lose votes because of her religious views, when every other viable candidate has the same views. 

[OzmO]

Ozmo that's the point I'm trying to make.  You're saying she will lose votes because of her religious views, when every other viable candidate has the same views. 

I am not saying that she will lose votes because of her religious views.  I am saying she will lose votes because speaking the way she did in her church will make her look like a zealot in some people's eyes. 

[Soul Crusher]

For what? 

[OzmO]

not that i care b/c like i said earlier she isnt a viable candidate anyway.

but what was her intention? and what about the way did you find distasteful?

When someone takes the opportunity to tell a group of people what she told them makes her a borderline zealot in my eyes.  now, I don't know enough about her to call her a zealot, but those clips point in that direction.  I wouldn't vote for her.  And to top it off, if it's correct, that church believing the pope is the anti- Christ tells me it's a church of nut jobs.  

[Dos Equis]

I am not saying that she will lose votes because of her religious views.  I am saying she will lose votes because speaking the way she did in her church will make her look like a zealot in some people's eyes. 

Kinda going in circles, but to which candidate? 

What she said is what Christians say all the time.  That's classic church-speak.  We (those who regularly attend church) talk like that in church all the time. 

[Soul Crusher]

Again.  Ozmo - you care more about this than pelosi advocating for illegals from the pulpit?   Lmao.

[OzmO]

Again.  Ozmo - you care more about this than pelosi advocating for illegals from the pulpit?   Lmao.

That's about the stupidest attempt to put words in my mouth  I have ever seen.  Or at the very least a cheap knock off of a retarded spin.  by the same silly CT er logic so are you.