Steve Wynn: Economy and Nation will not recover until Obama is gone.

[Soul Crusher]

Wow - where have you heard this before? 

[Bindare_Dundat]

but regulations always mean things improve.   

[whork25]

but regulations always mean things improve.   

You need to regulate Wall Street

[Soul Crusher]

You need to regulate Wall Street

did you even listen to the clip? 

and I have been saying this from Day 1 about obama and team dildo refuses to acknowledge the truth - that is - the obama admn is literally like a typhoid mary to the economy. 

[whork25]

did you even listen to the clip? 

and I have been saying this from Day 1 about obama and team dildo refuses to acknowledge the truth - that is - the obama admn is literally like a typhoid mary to the economy. 

I dont think i have ever heard from anyone that Obama should be strong on economy

A republican who is not so much in bed with the big money would be better. Ron Paul comes to mind

[Soul Crusher]

I dont think i have ever heard from anyone that Obama should be strong on economy

A republican who is not so much in bed with the big money would be better. Ron Paul comes to mind

Wynn is a democrat who voted for Obama 

[Kazan]

I dont think i have ever heard from anyone that Obama should be strong on economy

A republican who is not so much in bed with the big money would be better. Ron Paul comes to mind

Quite buying the BS, Dem and Repubs are both in bed with wallstreet money. In most cases dems more so, check the contributions

[whork25]

Quite buying the BS, Dem and Repubs are both in bed with wallstreet money. In most cases dems more so, check the contributions

Im not buying anything i agree with you. When i said Obama was not strong on economy i mean it. Everyone agrees on that even democrats i think.
Ron Poul may be the only politician who is not in bed with Wall Street. Im wondering how they will try to smother his reputation if he gets the nomination.

[OzmO]

Quite buying the BS, Dem and Repubs are both in bed with wallstreet money. In most cases dems more so, check the contributions

Totally agree.  I don't see things getting much better, short of some kind of upheaval or revolution. 

[Straw Man]

Let's review

Obama ran on many things, one of which was health care reform

Wynn voted for Obama and Republicans forced us to pass a shitty watered down version of reform and now he's bitching about healthcare?

I thought all companies were just going to drop their healthcare let their employees go on the federal program and it was going to put the insurance companies out of business (note - United healthcare just released it's earning and second-quarter earnings rose 13 percent, as enrollment gains helped fuel revenue growth and consumers continued to moderate their health care system use - maybe it's those high deductibles that are stopping people from using healthcare which in turn has created more profit for health insurance companies)

In the beginning of that clip he said that Obama should "wrangle" both parties?

Obama has proposed a combination of spending decreases and tax increases and Republicans have said NO to any increase in revenues

The thing that really cracks me up is hearing this guy bitch and moan about being afraid and about "uncertainty"

Since when is it the governments role to create "certainty" for any business.   Business is all about risk and uncertainty.   

Maybe Wynn's business can't make money because people don't have extra cash to blow on gambling (maybe because they have no more equity in their house/ATM machine)

BTW - does anyone remember when Republican Governor Jim Gibbons was floating the idea of a federal goverment bailout of the casino  industry.
Something tells me Wynn would have been all on board for that.  I mean it would have helped create certainty and for some reason that's what he things the governemet should be doing for him

[Soul Crusher]

Obama has no plan.   Even the cbo said "you can't score a speech".

[Straw Man]

Obama has no plan.   Even the cbo said "you can't score a speech".

Obama has offered many variations, all of which include revenue and expenditures (I think right now it's about 75% spendind and 25% revenue)

Repubs have fucked themselves by saying revenues can't be touched

If they truly cared about the country they would be rational enough to realize that we need to attack this from both sides

I guess Obama just needs to "wrangle" them as Wynn has suggested

btw -I don't buy the Repub talking point that the highest 2% are the "job creators"

They just throw that out there are we're all supposed to believe it.

Most jobs are created by small businesses and most of the wealthy people I know don't and have never created a single job in their life

[Soul Crusher]

Show me exactly his plan.  Not vague nonsense.

[OzmO]

The rich got richer from 2008 to now yet our UE is still high. Which suggests when companies get richer it doesnt mean they provide more jobs.

[Soul Crusher]

Yawn.  Complete cliche bs.

[Straw Man]

I suspect that If the Dems didn't pass healthcare legislation that Wynn would be bitching that Obama promised healthcare reform and he'd still be making the excuse that he's afraid to take a risk in his business because of the uncertainty of rising healthcare care costs

He can't take personal responsibility for the failings of his own industry and business and he needs someone to blame

[Soul Crusher]

I suspect that If the Dems didn't pass healthcare legislation that Wynn would be bitching that Obama promised healthcare reform and he'd still be making the excuse that he's afraid to take a risk in his business because of the uncertainty of rising healthcare care costs

He can't take personal responsibility for the failings of his own industry and business and he needs someone to blame

The health bill was the worst of all worlds and ghuess what straw - IS THE OPPOSITE OF OBAMA PROMISED.


1.  LIED ABOUT MANDATE 


2.  LIED ABOUT THE PUBLIC OPTION 

[OzmO]

Yawn.  Complete cliche bs.

In denial again huh?  Your whole BS point about lowering taxes and making it so that companies make more money so they will employ more people falls flat.  

Go ahead and spout some more OB digs.  BFD, the Truth is we a getting fucked from both sides.  

[Kazan]

In denial again huh?  Your whole BS point about lowering taxes and making it so that companies make more money so they will employ more people falls flat.  

Go ahead and spout some more OB digs.  BFD, the Truth is we a getting fucked from both sides.  

Companies are only going to employ more people if their products are in demand and need to make more of them. Unemployment not only hurts the individual it hurts business, smaller pool of consumers. So why are the rich, richer? The tax rates stayed the same they have been for the past what 10 years.

[Straw Man]

The health bill was the worst of all worlds and ghuess what straw - IS THE OPPOSITE OF OBAMA PROMISED.


1.  LIED ABOUT MANDATE 


2.  LIED ABOUT THE PUBLIC OPTION 

newsflash - Obama is not a king.  He has to work with what people in his party will give him and of course has to deal with 100% opposition to anything he is in favor of from the Repubs.

I assume from your bitching you would have been in favor of the public option.   I also assume, that you agree with Steve Wynn in his support of Harry Reid

[Straw Man]

Companies are only going to employ more people if their products are in demand and need to make more of them. Unemployment not only hurts the individual it hurts business, smaller pool of consumers. So why are the rich, richer? The tax rates stayed the same they have been for the past what 10 years.

exactly why the goverment (and the economy) get a return of greater than a dollar for every dollar spent on things like unemployment, public work programs etc.. and get almost nothing in return by giving millionares tax cuts

[Soul Crusher]

In denial again huh?  Your whole BS point about lowering taxes and making it so that companies make more money so they will employ more people falls flat.  

Go ahead and spout some more OB digs.  BFD, the Truth is we a getting fucked from both sides.  

The so called "rich" as defined by you dopes as anyone making over 250k, includes everyone from the plumbing contractor with a few trucks to warren buffet.

Its a complete bullshit statement on your part not in any way connected with the reality of the American economy.  Its classic far left socialist class warfare bs wo an ounce of substance.  A mile wide and an inch thick.  

Have the too big to fail bailed out by bush and obama prospered?   of course!  


Has the small business guy who used to make 350k a year and now makes 250k a year two years later, and now has less business, less employees, and less prospects going forward propered?  You do the math.  

Under your "wwwaaahhhh, the rich, wwaaahh, richer than 2008  wwaaahh,   you dont make the distinction"



        

[Soul Crusher]

newsflash - Obama is not a king.  He has to work with what people in his party will give him and of course has to deal with 100% opposition to anything he is in favor of from the Repubs.

I assume from your bitching you would have been in favor of the public option.   I also assume, that you agree with Steve Wynn in his support of Harry Reid

I have always said - if you have a mandate - you need to have an affordable option for people who can't afford the premiums.  Whether that is a single payor, public option, whatever, you can't mandate people by a product they cant afford.   

[Straw Man]

I have always said - if you have a mandate - you need to have an affordable option for people who can't afford the premiums.  Whether that is a single payor, public option, whatever, you can't mandate people by a product they cant afford.   

I don't recall you being in favor of anyone getting assistance for healthcare

My only recollection is you bitching about any and everything that would involve the government helping people obtain health care

Why don't you tell us about the provisions fo the mandate, the cases where people are exempt or receive assistance if they can't afford it

Help us all understand it better

[Soul Crusher]

I don't recall you being in favor of anyone getting assistance for healthcare

My only recollection is you bitching about any and everything that would involve the government helping people obtain health care

Why don't you tell us about the provisions fo the mandate, the cases where people are exempt or receive assistance if they can't afford it

Help us all understand it better

The so called subsidies are pure shit and not in any way connected with the reality of the american workforce or insurance market in the differing 50 states.


Obama wanted a one size fits all situation which does not work.