gh15 what do you think of franco.

[PJim]

LOL at the folks who thinks the pros of yesteryears were on minimal doses.

[Coach is Back!]

LOL at the folks who thinks the pros of yesteryears were on minimal doses.

Never said that, but at least they trained and trained hard. Bodybuilders today just 'workout"....if that.

[BILL ANVIL]

Never said that, but at least they trained and trained hard. Bodybuilders today just 'workout"....if that.

qft.

cold hard truth right there

[whitewidow]

No - but still huge amounts, see Figo's post this is what I meant.

your probably right. point is they didnt have to. Back then the muscle beach crew worked out way harder than any of the pros do today. they would do abs for 1-2 hours. JUST ABS

[whitewidow]

They used alot of dbol , they did have test and used small doses, Deca was very popular but was not abused. primo was very popular and so was halotestin. no HGH/slin no other funky igf-1 peptides. No high tech anti estrogens. If the pros had the drugs todays pros have access to they would look like a mess. Drugs back then were all coming from the pharmacy. Imagine if they were using HGH/slin and megadosing they woukd be all way freakier than todays pros due to how much work ethic they had. Franco and arnold and the rest of the gang worked out everyday for hours! True gym rats. Guys today are super lazy compared to the golden years. they have ruined the sport and given BB a bad rap. I admit Franco got a gift when he got won the 81 mr.olympia. he was best through 75-79.

[gh15]

They used alot of dbol , they did have test and used small doses, Deca was very popular but was not abused. primo was very popular and so was halotestin. no HGH/slin no other funky igf-1 peptides. No high tech anti estrogens. If the pros had the drugs todays pros have access to they would look like a mess. Drugs back then were all coming from the pharmacy. Imagine if they were using HGH/slin and megadosing they woukd be all way freakier than todays pros due to how much work ethic they had. Franco and arnold and the rest of the gang worked out everyday for hours! True gym rats. Guys today are super lazy compared to the golden years. they have ruined the sport and given BB a bad rap. I admit Franco got a gift when he got won the 81 mr.olympia. he was best through 75-79.

wow...this posting is 75% on spot,, not bad,,
gh15 approved

[cephissus]

They used alot of dbol , they did have test and used small doses, Deca was very popular but was not abused. primo was very popular and so was halotestin. no HGH/slin no other funky igf-1 peptides. No high tech anti estrogens. If the pros had the drugs todays pros have access to they would look like a mess. Drugs back then were all coming from the pharmacy. Imagine if they were using HGH/slin and megadosing they woukd be all way freakier than todays pros due to how much work ethic they had. Franco and arnold and the rest of the gang worked out everyday for hours! True gym rats. Guys today are super lazy compared to the golden years. they have ruined the sport and given BB a bad rap. I admit Franco got a gift when he got won the 81 mr.olympia. he was best through 75-79.

 

do you even work out?

[Figo]

how do you know

cause Larry said so!

lol

[Figo]

They used alot of dbol , they did have test and used small doses, Deca was very popular but was not abused. primo was very popular and so was halotestin. no HGH/slin no other funky igf-1 peptides. No high tech anti estrogens. If the pros had the drugs todays pros have access to they would look like a mess. Drugs back then were all coming from the pharmacy. Imagine if they were using HGH/slin and megadosing they woukd be all way freakier than todays pros due to how much work ethic they had. Franco and arnold and the rest of the gang worked out everyday for hours! True gym rats. Guys today are super lazy compared to the golden years. they have ruined the sport and given BB a bad rap. I admit Franco got a gift when he got won the 81 mr.olympia. he was best through 75-79.

theyd look just as shit, theyd be taking todays stuff then, if it was available

the larry scott thing, in the 90's, scott said he didnt do drugs, only took dbol once didnt like it..... and he took 15mg........   these guys were taking handfuls of the shit at a time. why? because it wasnt illegal, it wasnt "wrong", this was pre 1982, it wasnt immoral, or "cheating".

like Larry Scott was some kind of genetic wonder that grew on blairs protein and gironda secret exercises and prostaglandin bs, just because someone is blond with blue eyes and competed in the 60's in california, doesnt make them saints, or holier than thou

fuck, this is like trying to tell people wrestling isnt "real"

[Figo]

LOL @ "mega doses". Sure they took their share but "mega doses" is a little extream. You guys seem to forget or just don't know, that back then drugs really were the finishing touches and actual training still was king. Unlike GH15 and the other of this day.

Never said that, but at least they trained and trained hard. Bodybuilders today just 'workout"....if that.

LOL at the folks who thinks the pros of yesteryears were on minimal doses.

you did say they were on "finishing touch" doses. I take that to mean small, am I wrong?

[Cleanest Natural]

The difference in how they looked back then is also in the QUALITY of the drugs .. today's stuff is so so quality wise

[suckmymuscle]

look.. I posted this many times and people laughed at me

Arnold would pop between 200 and 400 mg legit dbol daily... laugh all you want but it is thuth

  This is simply not possible. Dbol is an alpha-alkylated steroid, which means it passes through the liver at least twice before being broken down. No Human liver could survive this for more than a week or so. Maybe a hypopotamus' liver.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Van_Bilderass]

  This is simply not possible. Dbol is an alpha-alkylated steroid, which means it passes through the liver at least twice before being broken down. No Human liver could survive this for more than a week or so. Maybe a hypopotamus' liver.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Again you show how little experience you have. I have seen the above done with my own eyes. And I haven't even seen a case of jaundice. Heart burn and headache were the side effects.

Now, the 7500mg of dbol per day that Dr Kerr mentioned is something that's BS.

[Van_Bilderass]

Never said that, but at least they trained and trained hard. Bodybuilders today just 'workout"....if that.

If it's true that some guys like Arnold trained for 4 hours a day, 6 days a week then it wasn't hard training. The intensity or density, whatever you want to call it, simply cannot be high. Train your legs as hard as you can for 4 hours and you wont be back the next day, nor the next week. Big chance of ending up in the ER with rhabdo instead.

[Cleanest Natural]

I have seen plenty of people take 200 mg and more daily in addition to other stuff ...

[suckmymuscle]

Again you show how little experience you have. I have seen the above done with my own eyes. And I haven't even seen a case of jaundice. Heart burn and headache were the side effects.

Now, the 7500mg of dbol per day that Dr Kerr mentioned is something that's BS.

  Again, VanBilderASS, 400 mg of d-bol is not possible for continued use. Sure, you can take this amount one day and survive. You can take it for 2 or even 3 days, and even though you will probably suffer from jaundice and become very sick, you will survive. But continuously? No. Just no. Period. End of discussion. The liver of a Human Being would be cirrhotic after a couple weeks taking this amount of d-bol daily. It is simply not possible. Period...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Cleanest Natural]

  Again, VanBilderASS, 400 mg of d-bol is not possible for continued use. Sure, you can take this amount one day and survive. You can take it for 2 or even 3 days, and even though you will probably suffer from jaundice and become very sick, you will survive. But continuously? No. Just no. Period. End of discussion. The liver of a Human Being would be cirrhotic after a couple weeks taking this amount of d-bol daily. It is simply not possible. Period...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

arnie seems to have "survived"

[whitewidow]

do you even work out?

Not as much as I used to a few years back. I still workout but not nearly as many hours per month. I hit one body part a day really hard for an hour and thats it. I used to over-train . I actually think Im gaining better doing the one body part a week for an hour. I will always have a great physique due to all the years I put in and all the sports I played. I even have one marathon under my belt and thats 26.2 miles took me lil more than 3 and a half hours. I do chest monday, legs tuesday, biceps and triceps wednesday, abs and forarms thursday, chest and arms friday. saturday and sunday cardio. all workouts last about 45 to an hour I workout fast but try to keep intensity high.

[io856]

arnie seems to have "survived"

drinking beer too 

[suckmymuscle]

arnie seems to have "survived"

  No wonder, since he never took 400 mg of d-bol a day continuously...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[whitewidow]

arnie seems to have "survived"

arnie has heart problems. Alot of ugl's make 50mg dbol tabs and capsules and some dudes take 3-4 or more a day so I would know people take 200mg-400mg of dbol. do I think its safe or smart? hell no. I you have quality dbol 50mg a day is all you need otherwise id question how strong of a product you are getting. shit I took 50mg of british dragon Turinabol wich is not as strong as dbol on paper but it blew me the fuck up anadrol like gains without the water retention. my face puffed a bit not much but I also was using suspension daily.thats why My face bloated a bit. I gained 18 pds in 5 weeks almost all lean muscle, I was holding a tad bit of water but nothing to noticable.

[Figo]

if he did 200mg, it was probably for short periods, 400 is not impossible, but its pretty high for a long period

[Schmoe Buster]

I have seen plenty of people take 200 mg and more daily in addition to other stuff ...

Same here, first guy i used to get gear from was a former Mr California who started out in the 70's, he would take 100 tabs of 5mg Dianabol per day, i saw him take them many times when we ate lunch or dinner together, he would also inject 1 amp of Primobolan, 2 amps of Sust and 2 amps of Deca per day at least, that was just his cruising cycle, said he learned it from guys in the 70's and had been following it for more than 25 years,he like Halo a lot too guy was 240lb of solid muscle at 5,9

[gh15]

just for a reference point for my pupils....i will write here what need to happen for you to be 200lb 6% on a regular basis,,

200lb 6% at a height of 5'10! that mean 5'6....170 ,,that mean 6'1 220...

this is what need to be done to be the above mesurements,,, ofcourse im talking conditioned size as always..


ALL THE TIME NONE STOP USAGE OF HORMONES....CRUSING AND BLITZ,, OR CONSTANT ALL TIME ON ,, OR VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY CYCLES...

tesosterona at 500-1000 mg a week ,, can go lower 150-300mg  if want to reduce water but generaly speaking over all 500mg to 1000 mg of legit testosterona...

trenbolona ace 50-150mg every 2 day,, or equipona 500-100 mg a week,,

usually HUMAN GROWTH HORMONES depending on age 30+ will have to use hgh at 4-5 iu either every day or every 2 day

nowwwwww......


this is for being 200lb 6% lol .....5'6 170 something...


 just thinkkkk of what twister do to be 190lb + on stage ....you think about it my friends and let me know... : )

liars is the biggest problem of bodybuiold,, all mental cases ofcourse,, very very few fellas talk the truth ,, on getbig we hav equite a few who do talk the truth like van b ...like the flinston fella,, like sevaste ,, like secret stack fella,, like optimus fella,, like my pupil stavio ,, like gear101 ,, many other too that i diddnt mention but they knwo who they are....

everytime the ron heris fella open hsi mouth you need to attack him like a group of lions waiting on a deer

gh15 approved

[whitewidow]

The 2 top bodybuilding shows are the mr.olympia and the arnold classic if they still are doing the arnold classic. all the other shows the top prize is strip club money. even if you win. some shows are 10K some maybe 20K at most. olympia and arnold are the only two shows a bodybuilder could make a living if they were to win. so why do all these guys spend thousands of dollars on HGH/slin and other exotics plus their gear. cost is probably 50K a year. id say this is why most bodybuilders sell steroids and rec drugs otherwise they would be flat broke and homeless. endorsements dont pay that much depends on who sponsors you. in the end is it worth it? I workout to look good for the women  not to win shows because i know I will never get a pro card so why even be delusional and blow that kind of money. a few vials of sust per week and some tbol and im cool. I can get huge just off that small stack. I also get big using my pct. hcg 1,500 IU's a day for 2 weeks. nolvadex, dhea, trib and i prefer the vitargo/ creatine mix, So I stay in oretty good shape