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Mr. Magoo

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Re: Lazy REPUBS?
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2011, 01:17:54 PM »
You'll have similar findings, no matter what election you choose. The point, of course, is that Necrosis' claim is woefully false. This is just one example to show that.



that's why it's not valid to choose only one election to prove/disprove a correlation...how hard is that to figure out?  ???

I said that Necrosis might have been a little too specific in his post (and I took the liberty and modified his point earlier in this thread), but to say that he is "woefully false" based on a faulty poll in which you made invalid conclusions...is not evidence to prove Necrosis' claim to be false.

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Re: Lazy REPUBS?
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2011, 01:19:38 PM »
You almost have to feel sorry for the run of the mill liberal dolt with how many delusions, lies, misconceptions, and falsehoods their entire belief system is based upon.   

if you want to make this claim, start a thread that lists and explains the "delusions, lies, misconceptions, and falsehoods" that liberalism is based upon.

or it could just be that you don't understand what exactly is liberalism.

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Re: Lazy REPUBS?
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2011, 01:23:34 PM »
if you want to make this claim, start a thread that lists and explains the "delusions, lies, misconceptions, and falsehoods" that liberalism is based upon.

or it could just be that you don't understand what exactly is liberalism.

Lets start w Keyensian economics ok?   

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Re: Lazy REPUBS?
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2011, 01:26:06 PM »
Lets start w Keyensian economics ok?   

that's an economic theory, not a political theory

liberalism was around for many years before Keynes

you're changing the topic, but I really don't expect an adequate answer out of you anyways, so go ahead.

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Re: Lazy REPUBS?
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2011, 01:27:21 PM »
that's an economic theory, not a political theory

liberalism was around for many years before Keynes

you're changing the topic, but I really don't expect an adequate answer out of you anyways, so go ahead.

The average lib of today worships at the altar of Keynes   

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Re: Lazy REPUBS?
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2011, 01:32:26 PM »
The average lib of today worships at the altar of Keynes   

irrelevant to the political theory of liberalism

I'll make this easier on you. What do you think of Nozick (father of libertarianism) allowing for the redistribution of wealth if the original distribution is not a just one? What do you think of Locke in his second treatise of government specifically stating that property should be regulated? What do you think about common thought experiments like the prisoner's dilemma or the tragedy of the commons to show how Adam Smith's theory to be inadequate?

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Re: Lazy REPUBS?
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2011, 01:33:12 PM »
irrelevant to the political theory of liberalism

I'll make this easier on you. What do you think of Nozick (father of libertarianism) allowing for the redistribution of wealth if the original distribution is not a just one? What do you think of Locke in his second treatise of government specifically stating that property should be regulated? What do you think about common thought experiments like the prisoner's dilemma or the tragedy of the commons to show how Adam Smith's theory to be inadequate?

 ::)  ::)

Using 18th and 19th century definitions are utterly usless in the context of today.   

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Re: Lazy REPUBS?
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2011, 01:34:38 PM »
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Using 18th and 19th century definitions are utterly usless in the context of today.  

so you really don't know anything about liberal political theory?

Nozick died in 2002 by the way. Not really a 18th nor 19th century writer. Clearly you don't even know the fundamentals of libertarianism  :D

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Re: Lazy REPUBS?
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2011, 01:40:06 PM »
so you really don't know anything about liberal political theory?

Nozick died in 2002 by the way. Not really a 18th nor 19th century writer. Clearly you don't even know the fundamentals of libertarianism  :D

I'm talking about the average liberal of today as we define the term, not as was used centuries ago with no application today.     


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Re: Lazy REPUBS?
« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2011, 01:45:17 PM »
I'm talking about the average liberal of today as we define the term, not as was used centuries ago with no application today.     



I think you're talking mostly about the economic theory that most democrats believe. Again economics is a different issue.

But okay, we'll stick with liberalism since 1970. Please list out your specific objections to Rawlsian liberalism.

 :D

Ready to admit that you don't fully understand liberal political theory?

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Re: Lazy REPUBS?
« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2011, 01:48:54 PM »
I think you're talking mostly about the economic theory that most democrats believe. Again economics is a different issue.

But okay, we'll stick with liberalism since 1970. Please list out your specific objections to Rawlsian liberalism.

 :D

Ready to admit that you don't fully understand liberal political theory?



I hope so, becuase what I see wherever it is practiced is pure shit, bankruptcy, chaos, and failure.  so go ahead chief. 

BTW - the communist manifesto's 10 planks seems closest to the modern day lib more than anything.   

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Re: Lazy REPUBS?
« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2011, 12:39:42 PM »
You'll have similar findings, no matter what election you choose. The point, of course, is that Necrosis' claim is woefully false. This is just one example to show that.



no its not. You posted up stuff based on who they voted for, that is not the same as being a libertarian or conservative, magoo pointed this out to you but you seem to not comprehend the difference.

education does positively correlate with intelligence with a very strong correlation to post graduate work.

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Re: Lazy REPUBS?
« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2011, 03:32:00 PM »
no its not. You posted up stuff based on who they voted for, that is not the same as being a libertarian or conservative, magoo pointed this out to you but you seem to not comprehend the difference.

education does positively correlate with intelligence with a very strong correlation to post graduate work.
LOL that doesnt mean anything in your argument....intelligence is highly correlated to those who have higher degrees but that doesnt mean that those without higher degrees are any less intelligent you just have a higher concentration with schooling(of a smaller pool something you conviently overlook)...

simple misinturpretation of results here...