Split Routines.

[suckmymuscle]

  I have changed my stance on this because it is so easy to screw up your training by doing too many sets. But there is no contradiction. Both strength increases and high volume can induce muscular growth via different mechanisms like I said. The strength of a muscle is proportional to it's cross-sectional area, so to gain muscle volume you need to increase strength. But higher volume increases muscle size as well by boosting the number of testosterone receptors in the muscle cell as well as IGF-1 levels. I assumed that multiple sets caused more hypertrophy only because more sarcomeres are required to store ATP, but recent research shows that, even though this is true, the main reason why multiple sets increase muscle more than strength would allow is because it boosts testosterone receptors in the sarcomere and IGF-1 levels. So I was only partially correct.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Ursus]

Are your biceps so big that you can afford to train them exhausted like that or do you feel training them pre-exhausted offers some benefit?

I HATE trianing biceps so much. I will literally do 50lb BB curls and 20lbs hammer curls at the end.

By the time I start doing biceps they are generally pumped anyway. They are not 'so big' but have nice shape.

[suckmymuscle]

I HATE trianing biceps so much. I will literally do 50lb BB curls and 20lbs hammer curls at the end.

By the time I start doing biceps they are generally pumped anyway. They are not 'so big' but have nice shape.

  If you don't like training biceps, then don't. It is not necessary unless you are a competitive bodybuilder. You already get a very good biceps workout every time you do barbell rows and pulldowns for your back.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[GroinkTropin]

Thanks for the great info SMM!!! You and Necrosis make this forum solid gold. Thanks to both of you for all of your contributions here as well as the nutrition forum!!!

[suckmymuscle]

Thanks for the great info SMM!!! You and Necrosis make this forum solid gold. Thanks to both of you for all of your contributions here as well as the nutrition forum!!!

  You da man!!!!!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Ursus]

  If you don't like training biceps, then don't. It is not necessary unless you are a competitive bodybuilder. You already get a very good biceps workout every time you do barbell rows and pulldowns for your back.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I agree.

[suckmymuscle]

I agree.

  Ancilliary muscles like the forearms, biceps, traps, etc, don't really need to be trained unless you are a very serious competitive bodybuilder who needs to show maximum devlopment and detail of all muscles. These bodyparts are already worked every time you train the muscles of your upper body, so training them directly often results in overtraining and hampers your strength gains in all the big exercises that require these muscles to be performed. Also, it is debeatable whether traning these muscles directly even make them grow more than they would if you only usd them on the big exercises, as their size is mostly genetic and doesen't seem to respond to direct training as much.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Meso_z]

chest back delts/traps arms legs the end.

[Ursus]

  Ancilliary muscles like the forearms, biceps, traps, etc, don't really need to be trained unless you are a very serious competitive bodybuilder who needs to show maximum devlopment and detail of all muscles. These bodyparts are already worked every time you train the muscles of your upper body, so training them directly often results in overtraining and hampers your strength gains in all the big exercises that require these muscles to be performed. Also, it is debeatable whether traning these muscles directly even make them grow more than they would if you only usd them on the big exercises, as their size is mostly genetic and doesen't seem to respond to direct training as much.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I have stopped trianing my traps and forearms. never done my calves more than 2 weeks in a row.

My forearms are huge and my traps are pretty good also. i do believe they would be better if i did trian them. However, I do not have the motivation to do so for the (what I would imagine) is a small increase!

My calves are small though. Probaly 16.5" at my height.

[YngiweRhoads]

I actually do the Intermediate routine you've outlined.

Go figure.

[chaos]

 Ancilliary muscles like the forearms, biceps, traps, etc, don't really need to be trained unless you are a very serious competitive bodybuilder who needs to show maximum devlopment and detail of all muscles. These bodyparts are already worked every time you train the muscles of your upper body, so training them directly often results in overtraining and hampers your strength gains in all the big exercises that require these muscles to be performed. Also, it is debeatable whether traning these muscles directly even make them grow more than they would if you only usd them on the big exercises, as their size is mostly genetic and doesen't seem to respond to direct training as much.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Quite obviously sucksmanmuscle is a guy that has never lifted anything heavier than his boyfriends cock in his life.

[deadz]

Tues.-Chest/bis
Thur.- Back
Fri. - Shoulders/tris
Sunday - Legs

Four paragraphs was real necessary  . I guarantee people like SMM who try and make weightlifting so complicated look like a pile of garbage.

[suckmymuscle]

Quite obviously sucksmanmuscle is a guy that has never lifted anything heavier than his boyfriends cock in his life.

  Quite obviously you are a troll. Just to keep it on topic since we are discussing obvious things.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[chaos]

 Quite obviously you are a troll. Just to keep it on topic since we are discussing obvious things.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Do you even workout?

[deadz]

Do you even workout?

Arm chair QB.

[chaos]

Arm chair QB.

Are you saying sucksmanmuscles bisexual lover won't let him leave their one room apartment and instead makes him do nude squats over his lap while he eats bon bons and watches Oprah?

[deadz]

Are you saying sucksmanmuscles bisexual lover won't let him leave their one room apartment and instead makes him do nude squats over his lap while he eats bon bons and watches Oprah?

Sums it up.

[chaos]

Sums it up.

Are you saying the only 2 kinds of workouts sucksmanmuscle knows is his finger workout googling information to post on getbig and his knee workout where his boyfriend repeatedly makes him drops to his knees and "give him 20"......and by 20 he means 20 minutes of oral satisfaction?

[deadz]

Are you saying the only 2 kinds of workouts sucksmanmuscle knows is his finger workout googling information to post on getbig and his knee workout where his boyfriend repeatedly makes him drops to his knees and "give him 20"......and by 20 he means 20 minutes of oral satisfaction?

99.99999999% accurate.

[chaos]

99.99999999% accurate.

That is correct, the other .0000000001% of the time sucksmanmuscle is being used as a strap on depository for his girlfriend, he is bisexual after all.

[jude2]

Tues.-Chest/bis
Thur.- Back
Fri. - Shoulders/tris
Sunday - Legs

Four paragraphs was real necessary  . I guarantee people like SMM who try and make weightlifting so complicated look like a pile of garbage.

That is my current split.

[deadz]

That is my current split.

Cool, works great for me. No need to complicate things. It weightlifting not nanotechnology.