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Re: Whey protein is a Scam! It's a highly toxic industrial waste product!
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2011, 05:03:01 AM »
supps are a good thing in general

the bad thing about them is the cost/result ratio compared to drugs and the idiotic ads put on by the supp companies

ronnie coleman had 3 wehey shakes in his pre contes diet, and this is not out of flex mag or supp-ads

90percent of pros use whey glutamin bcaa on regular basis (this are basic supps i recomend to every one)

creatin is good to hold at least bodyweight due waterretention if you lower the drugs, even if it does nothing for real muscle size this is a good thing in some cases

supps are good to get high protein without to much food volume what in my opinion often "kills a tight midsection"

and food volume is a real problem for a 250 pound bodybuilder

other supp i like:
glucosamin (what is your opinion on that? - gh15)

is ist a way to protect joints? (i know npp is better ;.)


never used a damn supplment in my serious competetive life,, not even one! lol my supplements were hormones lol and food... i dont understand how this is going on for so long and so many buy into this balonie,,if i want to protect my joints...i use nandrolona...or high dose testosterona...hgh help too,,i seriously would tell you if i did ,, i sold them but never used them lol,, never did shit for me

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Re: Whey protein is a Scam! It's a highly toxic industrial waste product!
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2011, 05:04:37 AM »
God of Hormona,

                        What do you think of just cracking 6 eggs in a large glass and swallowing it like ROCKY did in training??  Vince Gironda used to tell the gym members at Vince's gym to do this, but I trust your advice the most...

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i used to do it in the past before pasturized eggwhites,, but why now? now day you have it pasturized so all risk it out ...also 6 eggwhites is nothing ,, you want  ...6 eggwhites lol what are we kids?

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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2011, 05:10:11 AM »
Call me a fag but I use pre workout drinks, I train 6:30am
Current favourites are Nutrex hemorage concentrate and Dorian Yates nxpump
Then again I get all my supplements for free

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« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2011, 05:14:22 AM »
Supps are good, i like the taste of Protein powders, they keep me sane in diets.

gh15, you said you used "Up you mass" before.

Supps like Protein powders and MRPs are great to get all the calories, besides that i use amino acids round my workouts.

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« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2011, 05:19:41 AM »
Call me a fag but I use pre workout drinks, I train 6:30am
Current favourites are Nutrex hemorage concentrate and Dorian Yates nxpump
Then again I get all my supplements for free

Do either of those have Caffeine in them? You ever take any Ephedrine?

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« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2011, 05:23:09 AM »
never used a damn supplment in my serious competetive life,, not even one! lol my supplements were hormones lol and food... i dont understand how this is going on for so long and so many buy into this balonie,,if i want to protect my joints...i use nandrolona...or high dose testosterona...hgh help too,,i seriously would tell you if i did ,, i sold them but never used them lol,, never did shit for me

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why do you think coleman + yates + DJ and other top pros used supps like whey, oil, vitamins, minerals....?

do you think they didn t know better ?

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« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2011, 05:31:29 AM »
Do either of those have Caffeine in them? You ever take any Ephedrine?
Both have caffeine but no ephidrene
A lot of vitamin b12 though

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« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2011, 06:35:31 AM »
Call me a fag but I use pre workout drinks, I train 6:30am
Current favourites are Nutrex hemorage concentrate and Dorian Yates nxpump
Then again I get all my supplements for free
atm me too and for the same reason, but i consider changing that to 25-50mg legit susp and caffeine.

and oh i wish i could get liquid egg whites, shit doesn't exist here...

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« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2011, 06:48:47 AM »
Whey protein use to be the part they threw away after making cheese. Why is it so expensive?

Click on this link and you might not take whey protein with all the impurities in it.
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine-archive/2010/july/food/protein-drinks/whats-in-your-protein-drink/index.htm

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« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2011, 09:30:00 AM »
is there truth to different times for diff. protiens to be absorbed,like steak takes longer than eggwhites etc. if this is true wouldnt whey then be good because of how fast it is absorbed,at times when you need protien to be absorbed fast.

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« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2011, 09:41:59 AM »
nothing NOTHING is even close to be compared with walmart liquid eggwhites... NOTHING,, eggwhites either the walmart version or the green white of papetti or whatevr company make it now,, you know exacly what i talk about 4 dollaros for big one 2 dollaros for small one,,

nothing! beats it ,, nothing wil ever beat it ,, and it REALLY grow you ! this is the food you need on hormones THIS IS what grow you on hormones

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hard to digest these things tho, I smell like a fucking dead corps with these things

almost killed my girlfriend in her sleep last night

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« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2011, 09:52:18 AM »
lol, take time ,, about 6 months for the stomack to like it ,, you will have diareaa from too much of eggwhites drinks,, you may even think you have hiv lol  since you will shit water at time lol but! your body get used to it and then it is the best food ever for bodybuild,,even before when you shit it diareaa style...just drink one more ,, it all go and digested no worry

what can be better thsan eggwhite protien ? straight egghwhites put in a box pasurized some ready to drink....i USED to put pink lemonade powedr in it and mix and drink ...was ok but with time you get used to it and like drinking it same as you like chocolato milk ,, it is matter of time with humans

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« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2011, 12:26:14 PM »
lol, take time ,, about 6 months for the stomack to like it ,, you will have diareaa from too much of eggwhites drinks,, you may even think you have hiv lol  since you will shit water at time lol but! your body get used to it and then it is the best food ever for bodybuild,,even before when you shit it diareaa style...just drink one more ,, it all go and digested no worry

what can be better thsan eggwhite protien ? straight egghwhites put in a box pasurized some ready to drink....i USED to put pink lemonade powedr in it and mix and drink ...was ok but with time you get used to it and like drinking it same as you like chocolato milk ,, it is matter of time with humans

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God of Hormona,

                       I understand about the pasteurization, but isn't it fine to include the yolks especially if we are HORMONIZED and can digest the fat?  Also, do you think popping a couple of pineapple-based digestive enzyme capsules (bromelain) would help with not going to the toilet??

Thanks as always
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« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2011, 12:44:35 PM »
God of Hormona,

                       I understand about the pasteurization, but isn't it fine to include the yolks especially if we are HORMONIZED and can digest the fat?  Also, do you think popping a couple of pineapple-based digestive enzyme capsules (bromelain) would help with not going to the toilet??

Thanks as always
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are you retarted? Listen to what your saying. "Since we are hormonized we can digest the fat" ::) You know god put the yolk there for a reason right? As optimus said, the amino acid profile is not complete in egg whites.  cmon bro
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« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2011, 01:08:06 PM »
are you retarted? Listen to what your saying. "Since we are hormonized we can digest the fat" ::) You know god put the yolk there for a reason right? As optimus said, the amino acid profile is not complete in egg whites.  cmon bro

This is a legit question, if you've been reading the posts and not skimming- gh15 was just saying to drink egg whites, NOT yolks.  I was questioning WHY.

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« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2011, 01:30:24 PM »
This is a legit question, if you've been reading the posts and not skimming- gh15 was just saying to drink egg whites, NOT yolks.  I was questioning WHY.


what worked for gh15, does not change the basic laws of the human digestive system. The human body was made to digest eggs with the yolk. LOL it's like me asking. "hey gh15 i know icecream is good and all on gh and trenbolona, but is there a particular reason you reccomend reeses peanut butter flavor?"  gee idont know, Maybe egg whites are more damn convienant than cooking a bunch of eggs? ::)
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« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2011, 01:48:19 PM »

what worked for gh15, does not change the basic laws of the human digestive system. The human body was made to digest eggs with the yolk. LOL it's like me asking. "hey gh15 i know icecream is good and all on gh and trenbolona, but is there a particular reason you reccomend reeses peanut butter flavor?"  gee idont know, Maybe egg whites are more damn convienant than cooking a bunch of eggs? ::)

he is talking about uncooked eggs tho

but I think there are pasteurised "whole eggs" anything, pretty sure I saw those

they are certainly  just as good if they have been pasteurised

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« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2011, 02:09:17 PM »
he is talking about uncooked eggs tho

but I think there are pasteurised "whole eggs" anything, pretty sure I saw those

they are certainly  just as good if they have been pasteurised

I meant that if your going to take the time to cook the eggs, your better off eating the yolk than throwing it away. If you dont use protein shakes or are in a rush then liquid egg whites are great. I was just trying to say there is nothing wrong with eating the yolks, and they are very healthy. One of the only food sources with high levels of vitamin D found in nature are egg yolk. They also contain high amounts of biotin.
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« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2011, 02:49:05 PM »
Shakes can never ever replace whole foods, but like said before - they are good to have when you have short time at your hands. If I can, I only like to drink a PWO shake and have all the other meals consist of whole foods. Ive also found out that shakes makes me retain more water so there is some truth to that. They are also much more high in cals than for example tunafish, making them less effective on a diet. That being said, I prefer a high quality protein powder none other than Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey. It is truly simply the best and Ive been using it for yeeeeears and never went back.

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« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2011, 02:54:25 PM »
I meant that if your going to take the time to cook the eggs, your better off eating the yolk than throwing it away. If you dont use protein shakes or are in a rush then liquid egg whites are great. I was just trying to say there is nothing wrong with eating the yolks, and they are very healthy. One of the only food sources with high levels of vitamin D found in nature are egg yolk. They also contain high amounts of biotin.

The other part of my question was on the use of digestive enzymes (like Bromelain capsules) to avoid the "liquid diarrhea" experienced when drinking these egg whites as written by gh15.  Not much is mentioned about digestive enzymes, and I'd like gh15 to add his opinion!

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« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2011, 03:01:42 PM »
Shakes can never ever replace whole foods, but like said before - they are good to have when you have short time at your hands. If I can, I only like to drink a PWO shake and have all the other meals consist of whole foods. Ive also found out that shakes makes me retain more water so there is some truth to that. They are also much more high in cals than for example tunafish, making them less effective on a diet. That being said, I prefer a high quality protein powder none other than Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey. It is truly simply the best and Ive been using it for yeeeeears and never went back.

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« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2011, 04:53:31 PM »
never used a damn supplment in my serious competetive life,, not even one! lol my supplements were hormones lol and food... i dont understand how this is going on for so long and so many buy into this balonie,,if i want to protect my joints...i use nandrolona...or high dose testosterona...hgh help too,,i seriously would tell you if i did ,, i sold them but never used them lol,, never did shit for me

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and yet you act like you know what a lab does?

yet again you are full of shit.

protein powders are completely fine. What you do, is spread baseless conclusions and anecdotes and pass them off as fact. the poor minions follow you like lemmings.

those who have an ability to be logical and conduct research can easily dispell your myths.

its complete BS that protein powders are worse than regular foods.

they are formulated for a specific nutrient balance and are excellent supplements. bioavailability is more often better than regular foods, and you get the precise calorific and nutrient content you want.

to say that protein powder causes thick skin and large stomachs is like saying the increase in caribbean pirate attacks since 1970 correlates with global warming- so lets stop the pirates!!- and that'll stop global warming!

dumb ass.

thank god you dont have any official role or responsibility.

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« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2011, 05:01:58 PM »

what worked for gh15, does not change the basic laws of the human digestive system. The human body was made to digest eggs with the yolk. LOL it's like me asking. "hey gh15 i know icecream is good and all on gh and trenbolona, but is there a particular reason you reccomend reeses peanut butter flavor?"  gee idont know, Maybe egg whites are more damn convienant than cooking a bunch of eggs? ::)

bingo,,

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« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2011, 05:04:53 PM »
he is talking about uncooked eggs tho

but I think there are pasteurised "whole eggs" anything, pretty sure I saw those

they are certainly  just as good if they have been pasteurised

drinking those...i dont know ,, even i with the absolit ability to drink and eat the most digusting balonie ...even i dont like the taste of those and gag in my mouth lol ,, so be careful with that,, its too yelloish and too thick and really will make you throw up if drink too fast,,reasson for eggwhites is simply convinency and consistancy of water like product,, taste like damn water or thin milk ,, the other beaters with yellow color...umm i tried few times i can do it many others cant lol but even i cant stand it what so ever

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« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2011, 05:10:18 PM »
i used to do it in the past before pasturized eggwhites,, but why now? now day you have it pasturized so all risk it out ...also 6 eggwhites is nothing ,, you want  ...6 eggwhites lol what are we kids?

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