Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md

[Figo]

damn this whitewidow character has some balls arguing with disgusted...

waste of space, ppl should just ignore this guy

[suckmymuscle]

  Greg Zulac from the old MuscleMag said that the average pro at the Olympia level takes between 5,000 to 10,000 mg of androgens total a week, of which between 2,000 to 4,000 are testosterone. Jim Schmaltz from FLEX saw Ciziurlok inject 6 ampoules of Durateston(Brazilian Sustanon) for 1,500 mg of test at once in a 20" gauge syringe, and he said that Cziurlok told him that he would do the same again two times that week. So 4,500 mg of testosterone. Going by these figures, I would say that the second cycle is probably closer to what Dorian took, but it is still very exaggerated.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[whitewidow]

damn this whitewidow character has some balls arguing with disgusted...

Im in no way arguing! I just want to know why he would use a suspension as it seems to make people hold more water then prop does. disgustedd is above me I always have said that! He is also older I am getting there not quite disgusted level.

[whitewidow]

waste of space, ppl should just ignore this guy

Your right you know so much more than me.

[gh15]

This one is the real cycle.

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/115119-Dorians-olympia-stack-and-offseason-cycle-in-new-md

balonie,, me and him were on same doses more or less,, but aroudn same numbers ,, we both ran testosterona at 2-4 grams a week  ,, thats ONLY testosterona! only thing that was lower with dorian was insulina ,, insted of 150iu a day it was in the 50s


i dont like to repeat myself i keep telling you those things and you bring muscular develp balonie into the thunderdome,, i have enough on my plate right now,, dont bring that failed boaridng here,, their members come here to read gh15 so no ned to bring the balonie from there  here

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[Stavios]

balonie,, me and him were on same doses more or less,, but aroudn same numbers ,, we both ran testosterona at 2-4 grams a week  ,, thats ONLY testosterona! only thing that was lower with dorian was insulina ,, insted of 150iu a day it was in the 50s


i dont like to repeat myself i keep telling you those things and you bring muscular develp balonie into the thunderdome,, i have enough on my plate right now,, dont bring that failed boaridng here,, their members come here to read gh15 so no ned to bring the balonie from there  here

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Ron Harris needs to be punished

[gh15]

you ,, yourself saw when you jump to 240...when you took 2200mg testosterona into blood,,and this 240 is not thick desnse 240....so you can just imagine the doses we take and the hgh attached to it!,, but....as i said before true bodybuild can make 200lb look like 220...and can look as impressive as 230lb at 200...it really is knowing what you do ,, but to say 750 is laughing at bodybulders face,,

we do not even look at the doses we inject,, we put it in terms of syrenges,, we fill it up 3 cc and boom into ass,, another 3 cc and boom into other assw cheek,, this is daily activity ,, if we are real lazy second day...but the doses are high ,, and! hgh is the key to total transofmation ...it doesnt have to be in blood all the time you can take some time off 2-3 months but over all its the hgh usage that keep it all growing,,

hgh on then you got window of 3-6 months then boom hgh again ,, its the hgh we play with while aas always in system ,, ALWAYS

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[StanZoLOL]

He told a friend of mine he ran 18iu GH eod, which I guess isn't far off 8iu ed, but shows he isn't entirely consistent with his lies. 

[makaveli25]

Ron Harris what a dirty scumbag. I know people who did more than that on their first cycle. Why do people even hang out over there...?

[Stavios]

Ron Harris what a dirty scumbag. I know people who did more than that on their first cycle. Why do people even hang out over there...?

I would prefer if Ron Harris would just stop commenting on everything instead of taking us for a bunch of idiots

[gh15]

its alllll the same with all of us ,, IT IS ALL THE SAME I KEEP TELLING YOU AND YOU KEEP REPEATING QUESTIONS ,, it is all the same

there is rule of thumb in bodybuild,,



10iu = local

15-20 iu = regional

20+ iu = profesional,,+

look at my name ,, when begged to come to getbig in 2005 i agreed and had to chose a name ,, look what name i chose....i chose the name.....

GH - 15

THERE IS A REASON BEHIND THIS NAME,, I DIDNT JUST CHOSE IT BECAUSE I SAID OH GH15 SOUND LIKE A MARVELOUS EASY TO THE EAR NAME THAT WILL SIT WELL WITH FELLAS,, I CHOSE IS FOR A REASON...

IT IS THE 15 IU WHERE MAGIC HAPPEN

bodybuild sucess determine by how much money you can spend on hgh ...as simple as that,, it realy have very little to do with all the rest now day ,, it is mainly HOW MUCH MONEY YOU CAN SPEND ON THAT DAMN GH!,,if anyone of you once was able to take 3 vials hgh a day ...of 10 units..and do it for good 60 days ...you would see what i mean,,it creates a freakiness to the average fella that make him look like he ws born with this marvelous genetic...which ofcourse is not the case,,

dorian used 25-30iu gh,, EVERY SINGLE DAY,,he started at 15 went up to 18-20 and ended career at 25-30 again depending on the year,, and this is the truth...

ron heris is as i said before GHOST WRITER,, he live on americano soil...and befriended a HIGHLY recognized drug addict name joe raymond,, jose rayomond  is a mexicano nothing less nothing more...a mexicano with vast vast connection to hormones,, when i say mexicano i mean the attitude.. if jose rodigez wasnt a bodybuild...he would be sitting in some no where to be found town in americana infront of walmart ad part of a gang ....you know VERY WELL what im talking about,,

also friends...avoid pms to me inreagard to how exciting my writing is...nothing exciting abotu the truth ,, i just put it for everyone to see,, with HIGH risk to my life,, hopefuly its appreciated where it counts and it is your local gyms

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[BiGHer]

LOL that Dorian cycle is comical.  I think if they told me that is what he was doing EOD, I might believe it lol.  GetBiggers surely know better than that.  These drug competitions, excuse me, bodybuilding competitions are a funny thing.  Everyone is willing to talk and talk and talk about diet and training, but what is everyone so secretive about??  The drugs they use!!!  Why??  Because that is the piece of the puzzle that makes alllll the difference.

[Disgusted]

100mg prop everyday I believe but why suspension? seems like you get more water retention off suspension. this is a diffrent era but I bet back in the day there were guys who just used 300mg of prop going into a contest im talking just a week or 2 out.

You are making the common mistake that even some of the top guys are making year after year. You are thinking too much into this. First of all this holding water bullshit has been blown way out of proportion. The leaner you get the less water you are going to hold. I've brought guys into shows on test cyp and drol and had them win and then been asked how did these guys get so hard and ripped. All this pulling certain drugs at certain times is mainly BS. The only thing that I think is important to pull depending on the person is GH, but even then once you have been on it for 3 weeks you lose most of the water. 99% of the time and I have said this many times before, guys fuk up on the diuretic use. Get as lean as you can and I mean shredded and then and only then take a good honest look at yourself and ask yourself if you are holding water. Thing is most guys on here will never get to 4% so it's irrelevant.

[The_Iron_Disciple]

  Greg Zulac from the old MuscleMag said that the average pro at the Olympia level takes between 5,000 to 10,000 mg of androgens total a week, of which between 2,000 to 4,000 are testosterone. Jim Schmaltz from FLEX saw Ciziurlok inject 6 ampoules of Durateston(Brazilian Sustanon) for 1,500 mg of test at once in a 20" gauge syringe, and he said that Cziurlok told him that he would do the same again two times that week. So 4,500 mg of testosterone. Going by these figures, I would say that the second cycle is probably closer to what Dorian took, but it is still very exaggerated.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I can believe these figures. Good post.

[The Grim Lifter]

You are making the common mistake that even some of the top guys are making year after year. You are thinking too much into this. First of all this holding water bullshit has been blown way out of proportion. The leaner you get the less water you are going to hold. I've brought guys into shows on test cyp and drol and had them win and then been asked how did these guys get so hard and ripped. All this pulling certain drugs at certain times is mainly BS. The only thing that I think is important to pull depending on the person is GH, but even then once you have been on it for 3 weeks you lose most of the water. 99% of the time and I have said this many times before, guys fuk up on the diuretic use. Get as lean as you can and I mean shredded and then and only then take a good honest look at yourself and ask yourself if you are holding water. Thing is most guys on here will never get to 4% so it's irrelevant.

But what do you think of Dorian's 'real' cycle?

[Stavios]

lol they deleted my thread

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

Ron heris,,, fucking joke

[Nails]

Damn ripitupbaby has a stronger stack then Dorian

Hmmmmmmmmmmm these days...
1200-1500 mg tren per week, 1200 sustanon, deca 800-1000, gh 6-8 IU'S, throw in some 750 mg of primo and 100-200 mg anadrol or 150 mg dbol.


Please direct all future questions of this nature to jtsunami.  

[Disgusted]

But what do you think of Dorian's 'real' cycle?

Could it be, yes. Do I think it is, no. Why the hell would he do all that hcg and clomid. Total waste of time and I think he would feel the same. As far as mgs yes a lot of it I'm sure was up there.

[gh15]

I can believe these figures. Good post.

yes yes i just read it ,, my bad,, i just read his posting,, very good coming from this retard ,, not bad

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[Secret Stack]

lol they deleted my thread

What was your thread about 

[suckmymuscle]

yes yes i just read it ,, my bad,, i just read his posting,, very good coming from this retard ,, not bad

gh15 approved

  This retard is smart enough to know that you're no pro bodybuilder. He is also smart enough to have pointed out tons of inconsistencies in your posts, like when you claimed that you lost to Dorian because he was better than you, and then you claimed that you are currently a top five Olympia competitor, when there are no pros from Dorian's era still competing.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[gh15]

^ lutenent! lol

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[closeline]

^ lutenent! lol

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belive gh 15 an dforget the rest

proBB

15-35 hgh, lowering before comp
Test 2-4gr changing all esters depending on goal , lowering before comp
insulin 50-250 ie day, lowering befor comp
nandrolon, boldenon, changing into trenbolon ace and drosta closer to tontest or just looking harder

adding some orals dianabol or oxys to fill out

finishing touch is knowing your diuretics

in general no secrets, do it or don t be a top bodybuilder  by means of national competitor

exact numbers are individual and only figured out by trial and error

quality product is key

hell, even some gym rats do such cycles

[Stavios]

belive gh 15 an dforget the rest

proBB

15-35 hgh, lowering before comp
Test 2-4gr changing all esters depending on goal , lowering before comp
insulin 50-250 ie day, lowering befor comp
nandrolon, boldenon, changing into trenbolon ace and drosta closer to tontest or just looking harder

adding some orals dianabol or oxys to fill out

finishing touch is knowing your diuretics

in general no secrets, do it or don t be a top bodybuilder  by means of national competitor

exact numbers are individual and only figured out by trial and error

quality product is key

hell, even some gym rats do such cycles

I know a pro who only use 2 boxes of hgh per month 4 months before a show but he is also too light to fight too thin to win

never placed high