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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2011, 10:00:48 AM »
i think gh15 and that benoit guy are pretty right on.

gh because his answers make sense and benoit because he's mentally retarded and brutally honest.

there was a guy on here who used to tell me the goods from the bodybuilding scene around 2004-5ish.  he called his cycles "the nigger stack".

why that name?  because he says other pros would do the same thing he did, take every injectable and oral they could get their hands on and keep it year round.  he was mixing orals, cutting and bulking, anabolics with pct, eca with dbol, etc.  "whatever we can get our hands on, dosages don't matter".

you must realize many of these "athletes" are straight up drug addicts as well who need to get their high at the gym if they can't get it through a pipe.  one of the ways to do is to maximize the anabolics to reach PR's, low bodyfat, etc.
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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2011, 10:11:06 AM »
i think gh15 and that benoit guy are pretty right on.

gh because his answers make sense and benoit because he's mentally retarded and brutally honest.

there was a guy on here who used to tell me the goods from the bodybuilding scene around 2004-5ish.  he called his cycles "the nigger stack".

why that name?  because he says other pros would do the same thing he did, take every injectable and oral they could get their hands on and keep it year round.  he was mixing orals, cutting and bulking, anabolics with pct, eca with dbol, etc.  "whatever we can get our hands on, dosages don't matter".

you must realize many of these "athletes" are straight up drug addicts as well who need to get their high at the gym if they can't get it through a pipe.  one of the ways to do is to maximize the anabolics to reach PR's, low bodyfat, etc.

great post

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2011, 02:15:26 PM »
i think gh15 and that benoit guy are pretty right on.

gh because his answers make sense and benoit because he's mentally retarded and brutally honest.

there was a guy on here who used to tell me the goods from the bodybuilding scene around 2004-5ish.  he called his cycles "the nigger stack".

why that name?  because he says other pros would do the same thing he did, take every injectable and oral they could get their hands on and keep it year round.  he was mixing orals, cutting and bulking, anabolics with pct, eca with dbol, etc.  "whatever we can get our hands on, dosages don't matter".

you must realize many of these "athletes" are straight up drug addicts as well who need to get their high at the gym if they can't get it through a pipe.  one of the ways to do is to maximize the anabolics to reach PR's, low bodyfat, etc.

look ,, from all over the world fellas come to read gh15,, ther eis a reason for that... you dont just create such a huge name out of internet character just because of fun fun dandy mandy,, the reason gh15 went sky rocketing is because it tells the truth,, forget about the vocubulary and all this nonsense ,, im talking the information hands on ,,bodybuilder know when someone feed him balonie or tell him truth because many do it hands on ,,this is how most serious bodybuild advance ...they dont go to noels and to wanna be twisters,,they do it themselves hands on ,,

the reaility of the mater is that BODYBUILDER = DRUG ADDICT,, its not maybe its not little its not little + ...its not 2 ampolas of testosterona a week and its not playing with some 20mg dianabola...its not!,,

bodybuilder = drug addict,, everything in larger amounts ,, everything legit,, everything in the right timing,, and most importantly everything takes priority to other things in life,,

life is built from pressures,, little pressures that add on to be one big hell of a pressure,, you have life...you have family ,, you have job,, you have bills,, you have girlfriend,, you have testes,, you have school,, you have social ,, you have many many little things that in the big scheme of things will disturb bodybuild to a point of not being able to grow period! UNLESS hormones are in system and the all other things take second place to bodybuild...THIS! is the truth ,,

in reality if some of the fellas that blub would look at themselves in mirror they would too admit to what gh15 is saying,, you just cant progress and add lean poundage with out the right drugs and ENOUGH OF THEM ,, just too much pressure of life,, you can eat the all kitchen table it wont help the estrogen jumping sky high if too much pressure,, and it wont help the stress level of life...only thing that cuts it is hormones! and legit hormones! and in high enough doses,,

no one is meant to walk 220lb 6% ,, NO FUCKIN ONE! AND AT 5'7 LOL comon fellas lol no one walk thsoe numbers,, maybe 220 20% 5'7 if really past athlete in highschool and really from big boned family ,, but 20% and 6% is huge diff my friends,,

so when you see 5'10 milos sarcev who walk around 250...you need to ask yourself HOW? why?

the why is very simple....he is addict,, the how! is also quite simple....aas,, hgh in high doses,, and! I N S U L I N A

if you think philsulina is anything more than insulina and gh you are severly mistaken ,, his muscle is NOT REAL ,, it is not developed ,, it is virgin muscle ,, he maybe is the worst bodybuilder in the history of bodybuild,, and they were quite a few bad ones from this generation ,, including the champ which is  BAD MR O ,, but! again to the point in question...

bodybuilders know how much it takes to climb in size,, they know exactly how hard it is to be 200 lb 200lb !! 6% at 5'10!!  this is nto 220 240 260 this is 200lb 6% 5'10 ...they know how much drugs need to be in bloood for that to happen ,, and yet they choose to lie,, why? it is a mental deasease,, it is something that is really in the brain and not in the body ,,

the actual muscle on frank zane circla 79....is higher than the actual developed muscle on dan hill circa 2011...you have to understand this friends,, you have to understand that you do nto become impressive bodybuild in the eye of fellas who know whats up from taking mega dose insulina and hgh ,, the guru does it for you inorder to make money on you ,, in reality bodybuild is a very very sad activity ,, it involve being an addict,, and all the past heros of you can tell you stories from now till 2020 wont matter the fact they did the same thing only with less than 200iu insulina....they did it with 50...so as you can see being large bodybuild style in modern bodybuild became a complete and utter paralel to the doses of hormones ones take,, and mainly it is hgh and insulina,,

i have transformed 100s of fellas from shrimps to 6 feet monsters on hgh and insulina ,, 100s ,, 6 feet 295lb off season 249 on s tage,,,super heavys,,you know the numbers ,, thats why everyone follow gh15 ,, becauee the numbers i say are written in stone ,, because those fellas are cops who bodybuild and do it themselves,, because the fellas are profesionals who did it and do it still ,, because the fellas know that this is how it is ....220 6 feet on aas 9% 6 feet...then boom gh and insulina then higher doses and consistancy will take one to 290lb if just serious enough and know what he is doing as in LEGIT HORMONES,,

i became invinsible due to one simple thing and it is THE TRUTH,,

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2011, 02:25:40 PM »
Total bollocks from Dozy, Diabetic, Dicephalous Dorian Yates, another "feet of clay" bullshitter to add to the list of 'heros'.

Here is a great quote from Phil Hernon:

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I never took anything for BP. It was always perfect. Proscar for the prostate and hair loss. HCG/Clomid throughout. Femara and Nolvadex throughout. Niacin, fish oils, green tea, CQ10, aspirin for the cv system. metformin to counteract the insulin resistance. Inj B12 and l-carnintine. Liver aids. T3.

I owned my own vet drug company at the time, so I was paying less than $50 for a 500ml vial of test prop of 100mg/ml. That would last 1 year at 1g/week. All other gear was either through my vet company or on script through my pharmacy that I partially own. 50ml Stan was $18. 10ml Deca was $12 and so on. GH was the only expensive thing at $500 for 24IU.
So apart from the GH, the stuff to keep me healthy cost WAY more than the gear itself.

I do need to point out, that I did build up to that over many years, the way BBoy said. I didn't just jump from 250mg/week to the above regimen.

Also, Steele's post is spot on. Getting to pro size is having the genetics to accept the drugs in any quantity without sides. Most people don't have that ability.

And no, I didnt' have any mental issues that I remember. If anything, I am much happier on gear than off.

Personal experience - 1g/week of test in the form of Sustanon or Test Prop was my non stop base for many years. I lost count of the years when I was doing that, but it was way over 5.

Then I would 'cycle' on top of that - 3g of test/week, 1g/week anabolics, orals, insulin, gh.

Never had any sides. BP was always 120/80. Hdl/LDL was fine. No libido issues. Recovery did not take long when I stopped. Years later I fathered 2 children, while on hrt. No hairloss, no prostate issues, no gyno.

I was getting full health check ups (blood, heart, ultrasounds of liver, etc) every 3 months and every 4 weeks when cycling. I was using a HUGE amount of drugs/products to make sure I was getting no sides

Oh and, Dorian, could you tell us why "Dorian Yates the intelligent bodybuilder" (as you are always fucking referred to by the mags) required assistance from Brian Batcheldor and Paul Borreson if all you were taking was low dose anabolics as part of an unsophisticated, elementary drug protocol?

Of course, Dozy Dorian, the above question is rhetorical, there are only two possible answers; you went to Batcheldor because:

a) Self adminstering rudimentary anabolic steroids in low doses was beyond your sub par brain?

or:

b) You were in fact off your tits, on not only grams per week of anabolics, but also imbibing a goodly quantity of Insulin, Interlukin-15, DNP, peptides and systemically infused second generation IGF-1, all novel compounds at the time, of which, you required Batcheldors specialist expertise to deploy?

Secondly, since it now appears you are bereft of anything exceeding a slight interest in steroids, would you care to enlighten us why you were - as rumor has it - involved in founding Black Widow Labs?

Dorian Yates, just another lying cunt!

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2011, 02:34:48 PM »
Total bollocks from Dozy, Diabetic, Dicephalous Dorian Yates, another "feet of clay" bullshitter to add to the list of 'heros'.

Here is a great quote from Phil Hernon:

Oh and, Dorian, could you tell us why "Dorian Yates the intelligent bodybuilder" (as you are always fucking referred to by the mags) required assistance from Brian Batcheldor and Paul Borreson if all you were taking was low dose anabolics as part of an unsophisticated, elementary drug protocol?

Of course, Dozy Dorian, the above question is rhetorical in nature, there are only two possible answers.

You went to Batcheldor and Borreson because:

a) Self adminstering rudimentary anabolic steroids in low doses was beyond your sub par brain, or:

b) You were in fact off your tits, on not only grams per week of anabolics, but also imbibing a goodly quantity of Insulin, Interlukin-15, DNP, peptides and systemically infused second generation IGF-1, all novel compounds at the time, of which, you required Batcheldors specialist expertise to deploy?

Secondly, since it now appears you are bereft of anything exceeding a slight interest in steroids, would you care to enlighten us why you were involved in founding Black Widow Labs?

Dorian Yates, just another lying cunt!



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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2011, 03:24:58 PM »
Why would anyone involved in the industry tell a real stack to anyone on the internet for free???

You're lucky that gh15 is on here and im grateful that he's on here because the info on here is literally worth thousands of dollars honestly.

People lie...it happens...especially when money is involved...

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #56 on: August 19, 2011, 03:27:18 PM »
Why would anyone involved in the industry tell a real stack to anyone on the internet for free???

You're lucky that gh15 is on here and im grateful that he's on here because the info on here is literally worth thousands of dollars honestly.

People lie...it happens...especially when money is involved...

gh15 is the best guru hands down and thats because he doesnt complicate shit.

pros who sped big money on gurus and nutritionists are fucking stupid.


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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2011, 03:51:32 PM »
It's posts like Gh15's and W8M8's that make me a PROUD member here at GetBig. AWESOME post, as usual, by God, and awesome post as well as quote from W8M8. :) :) :)

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2011, 03:52:45 PM »


Damn, i would disable your webcam  :-X



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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2011, 03:57:32 PM »
Phil Hernon seems a cool guy

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #60 on: August 19, 2011, 04:03:43 PM »
Phil Hernon seems a cool guy

when he doesn'T push his bullshit supplement yes he is  ;D

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #61 on: August 19, 2011, 04:09:42 PM »
when he doesn'T push his bullshit supplement yes he is  ;D

I'd prefer a supplement pushing man over a stool pushing one ... just sayin' 

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #62 on: August 19, 2011, 04:11:48 PM »
What's his supplement line called?

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #63 on: August 19, 2011, 04:22:44 PM »
Total bollocks from Dozy, Diabetic, Dicephalous Dorian Yates, another "feet of clay" bullshitter to add to the list of 'heros'.

Here is a great quote from Phil Hernon:

Oh and, Dorian, could you tell us why "Dorian Yates the intelligent bodybuilder" (as you are always fucking referred to by the mags) required assistance from Brian Batcheldor and Paul Borreson if all you were taking was low dose anabolics as part of an unsophisticated, elementary drug protocol?

Of course, Dozy Dorian, the above question is rhetorical, there are only two possible answers; you went to Batcheldor because:

a) Self adminstering rudimentary anabolic steroids in low doses was beyond your sub par brain?

or:

b) You were in fact off your tits, on not only grams per week of anabolics, but also imbibing a goodly quantity of Insulin, Interlukin-15, DNP, peptides and systemically infused second generation IGF-1, all novel compounds at the time, of which, you required Batcheldors specialist expertise to deploy?

Secondly, since it now appears you are bereft of anything exceeding a slight interest in steroids, would you care to enlighten us why you were - as rumor has it - involved in founding Black Widow Labs?

Dorian Yates, just another lying cunt!


Wow - how on earth do you know all this?  :o

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #64 on: August 19, 2011, 04:23:31 PM »
Wow - how on earth do you know all this?  :o

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2011, 04:31:03 PM »
What's his supplement line called?

it was Phil Hernon's Pantry .. there's a Facebook page with his email to order from for now .. I guess the main site is closed





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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #67 on: August 19, 2011, 09:31:37 PM »
Wow - how on earth do you know all this?  :o

I used to talk to 'John Hodgson' who worked for Chemical warfare, on a regular basis (Paul Borreson, was running the show at the time), he used to do the phones offering advice on how to get the best results from the supps & your diet.
I became friends with him over a period of time, as we discovered that we had other things in common (outside BB'ing), he used to like to get off the topic & have new intellectual stimulation. WE would chat for 60/90 mins if he was not busy packing shit up to be dispatched (yeah, the glamorous life of an IFBB warehouse boy, LOLOL :D)

John was the first guy to give me REAL advice, 1'st was get a set of scales in your kitchen & weigh all your food (not even test advice), & take a week rest every x6 weeks of heavy lifting. This was back in the late 90's, before the split & 'Chemical nutrition' products (CNP) was formed.
John, helped me with my diet, my Test levels & my training over time (even though he knew I never wanted to compete, & had NO desire to get HUGE, I have only ever been 96kg ripped, EVER)

What's the point?? John was from the Manchester scene, & was very close friends with Dorian (who later went on to become the face of CNP) as he had known him for years, was also an IFBB card holder & worked for the same company. After the split with CNP, & Dorian started his own line, well let's just say that - the intel that W8M8 has in 100% on the money  ;)

The jury (for mass consumption) is out on the 'Black Widow' issue, but the intel I have says it is 99.9% legit ;)
You decide.........

& as we all know Paul, was a junkie (Nubain) & started ripping people off for large amounts of £, who is now DEAD, go figure  ::)

http://www.john-hodgson.com/career-history.htm

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #68 on: August 19, 2011, 09:51:47 PM »
Pre contest you dont want to use very much test. its ony when bulking. 300mg seems believable to me if he were going into contest. if he were bulking no way! most BB keep their test intake very low going into contest. but im not sure how far out they were talking about a few weeks I believe it. 12 weeks no way!. but it is true a few weeks before a show 300mg is believable.

Don't tell me, you have an MD subscription right, & sit by the front door every month waiting with baited breath  ;D

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #69 on: August 19, 2011, 10:39:43 PM »

Is Dorian come back?


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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #70 on: August 20, 2011, 12:57:41 AM »
Gayer than making up 'stacks' and 'cycles' online.

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #71 on: August 20, 2011, 02:58:00 AM »
Is Dorian come back?



A once mighty worrier, reduced to making appearances, in crap, smooth condition - on shitty Italian day-time TV  :-X
A very sad sight indeed. Much like looking at Lion that was caught in the wild through the bars at a zoo  :'(
How the mighty do fall...........
Gayer than making up 'stacks' and 'cycles' online.
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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #72 on: August 20, 2011, 03:52:27 AM »
LOL @ MD, these fuckers have no shame.

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #73 on: August 20, 2011, 06:59:42 AM »
Total bollocks from Dozy, Diabetic, Dicephalous Dorian Yates, another "feet of clay" bullshitter to add to the list of 'heros'.

Here is a great quote from Phil Hernon:

Oh and, Dorian, could you tell us why "Dorian Yates the intelligent bodybuilder" (as you are always fucking referred to by the mags) required assistance from Brian Batcheldor and Paul Borreson if all you were taking was low dose anabolics as part of an unsophisticated, elementary drug protocol?

Of course, Dozy Dorian, the above question is rhetorical, there are only two possible answers; you went to Batcheldor because:

a) Self adminstering rudimentary anabolic steroids in low doses was beyond your sub par brain?

or:

b) You were in fact off your tits, on not only grams per week of anabolics, but also imbibing a goodly quantity of Insulin, Interlukin-15, DNP, peptides and systemically infused second generation IGF-1, all novel compounds at the time, of which, you required Batcheldors specialist expertise to deploy?

Secondly, since it now appears you are bereft of anything exceeding a slight interest in steroids, would you care to enlighten us why you were - as rumor has it - involved in founding Black Widow Labs?

Dorian Yates, just another lying cunt!

Great quote there, where did you find it? can you redirect me to the thread?

Actually, some great posts in this last page.

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Re: Dorians olympia stack and offseason cycle in new md
« Reply #74 on: August 20, 2011, 07:30:16 AM »
Great quote there, where did you find it? can you redirect me to the thread?

Actually, some great posts in this last page.


BUMP ! I was hopin' W8M8 could post a link as well !


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